what exactly does muffled do?

[Sertified Jenius]

there is no way to get it other than with drop items. nor does it say what it does, im guessing it lets you sneak better though.

[Mr.Hmm]

muffled = removes all noise no matter how heavy your armor is when you crunch I believe(at least that's how it worked in Skyrim)

[Fallenliam]

its muffles your movement but only for that peice of armor. so that armor doesnt factor into your sneak checks. meaning muffled heavy is worth more then shadowed heavy

[KingsGambit]

One thing I noticed while sneaking...I will be [HIDDEN], not in line of sight, but move an inch and suddenly it says [CAUTION] and enemies will voice "What's that noise?". One assumes that having muffle on a piece/pieces of armour will reduce the noise, but without any numbers, I don't think anyone can know exactly how it works yet.

Do all pieces need to be muffled? Does metal make more noise than leather? Does a heavier piece make more than a lighter piece? How much noise is made sneaking with no armour at all? How does chameleon/shadowed work and how do all three effects interact with stealth perks/agility?

[KingsGambit]

Point of note...muffle is only available on leg armour pieces as far as I can tell. Arms have mods for unarmed/melee, chest has bonus resistances, all have weight/carry weight mods, but only legs have muffle. Does muffling both completely eliminate noise from movement? Will one muffled leg reduce noise by 50%? Does it work by reducing range that the sound carries? Hopefully in time we'll have more information on this stuff.

[Zerowes]

Something interesting that I've come across in my game is I've found a leather arm piece with muffled on it. In the list of mods where it would normally say "reduces detection from moving" (as it does on leg pieces) it is just blank and I'm curious if it even has any benefits.

[AlwaysAGoodDay]

Originally posted by Fallenliam:

its muffles your movement but only for that peice of armor. so that armor doesnt factor into your sneak checks. meaning muffled heavy is worth more then shadowed heavy

Muffled is for "sound" while shadowed is for "vision" One isn't necessary better than the other they simply effect two different aspects of stealth.

For the ultimate stealth armor you would ideally want both of these.

[Benelaus]

Originally posted by Zerowes:

Something interesting that I've come across in my game is I've found a leather arm piece with muffled on it. In the list of mods where it would normally say "reduces detection from moving" (as it does on leg pieces) it is just blank and I'm curious if it even has any benefits.

I had the same thing happen. When i took the mod off the arm piece, it didn't give me the option of putting it back. It does let me put it onto a leg piece though.

[Nite69]

it muffles your feat for stealth, easier to walk around without getting detected

I'm at 50% harder to detect + muffled leggs and I can get really close to the enemys in dark shadows

stealth killing is so fun

[ImHelping]

I honestly think armor crafting is more important than Gun Nut in most cases.

Even when taking every rank of it, I've still built most of my guns out of looted parts (this happens when the best parts start dropping before you are a high enough level to be allowed to take the crafting rank to make them).

Meanwhile, I'd NEVER have any of the armor mods I'd want without crafting. Name how many time you've seen Polymer on looted combar armor. Mine at level 53 is zero times. Same for Deep Pockets anything.

Energy weapons, much more likely to need crafting ot make them just how you want. But ballistics can be readily handles with looting. (I found a silenced upgraded railgun in an unlocked steamer chest in some rando park, after Upgrading the first railgun I got).

[Sertified Jenius]

Originally posted by KingsGambit:

Point of note...muffle is only available on leg armour pieces as far as I can tell.

thats what i meant when i first made this post. i kept getting arm pieces that were muffled

[Chiatroll]

Originally posted by KingsGambit:

Point of note...muffle is only available on leg armour pieces as far as I can tell. Arms have mods for unarmed/melee,

Sometimes I find muffled arms on enemies but you cannot put muffled on an arm even if you remove it from one that muffled and have the part for it so I assume that it's a bug.

[Sertified Jenius]

Originally posted by Chiatroll:

Originally posted by KingsGambit:

Point of note...muffle is only available on leg armour pieces as far as I can tell. Arms have mods for unarmed/melee,

Sometimes I find muffled arms on enemies but you cannot put muffled on an arm even if you remove it from one that muffled and have the part for it so I assume that it's a bug.

yeah i figured out what muffled was 5 minute after making this post. figuring things out yourself is actually prtty easy... But yeah, oncce i got a leg piece i figured it out, howeevr most muffled pieces were all from arms/torsos and helmets, howeevr that works...

[green man]

A question I have is, are you able to scrap armor pieces for the mod (like in Skyrim) and if so, can muffled go on leg pieces and shadowed go on arm pieces

[ImHelping]

Originally posted by HL:

A question I have is, are you able to scrap armor pieces for the mod (like in Skyrim) and if so, can muffled go on leg pieces and shadowed go on arm pieces

You can't scrap things for their mods, but at least with armor you can straight up pick the default/no mods options to remove them unlike guns.

But with the way the menu works, best case scenario is you'd get a muffle mod off of the armor not supposed to have it, and then not be allowed to put it on again.

So you might be able to take a muffled mod off armor that's not supposed to have it, but you won't be able to put it on anything that isn't supposed to have it simply because there will not be a menu option to do so.

Like how you can't put the arm stabilizer mods for better sniping on legs, because it's not a listed option you can click on.

[Sertified Jenius]

Originally posted by I'm Helping!:

Originally posted by HL:

A question I have is, are you able to scrap armor pieces for the mod (like in Skyrim) and if so, can muffled go on leg pieces and shadowed go on arm pieces

You can't scrap things for their mods, but at least with armor you can straight up pick the default/no mods options to remove them unlike guns.

But with the way the menu works, best case scenario is you'd get a muffle mod off of the armor not supposed to have it, and then not be allowed to put it on again.

So you might be able to take a muffled mod off armor that's not supposed to have it, but you won't be able to put it on anything that isn't supposed to have it simply because there will not be a menu option to do so.

Like how you can't put the arm stabilizer mods for better sniping on legs, because it's not a listed option you can click on.

This man speaks the truth, once you remove uffled, no putting it back on