Weapon Swap Lag

[Gaming Redmage]

Anyone else have their weapons not equipping or experience a long delay when using the "Favorites" keybindings? I'll hit 1 to equip a weapon, then hit 2 or 3 and sometimes my hands will drop and nothing happens, no weapons are then equipped. I then have to keep hitting the button or switching between weapons to get one to come up. This also is a ten times worst in windowed mode, check it out.

[Goroth]

Originally posted by Noble Tenshi:

Yeah its bugged, If I swtch between my meain weapon (3) and melee weapon (1) The animations bug up, The weapon dissappears with the hands still stretch out. You'd think you should hoister it, then unhoister the melee wweapon.. Guess Bethsedas got some bug fixing to do on this.

Yup this one particularly. And the thing that annoys me the most is that this happens even when the game works fine on my PC with 55-60 fps almost all the time at high settings. But like I said earlier for me it seems to happen a lot when the game has problems loading environment textures and textures in general (the terrain and objects and even your characters armor are blurry) but still I do have that 55-60 fps. Bad optimization I guess but I don't mind the texture loading lag, but this weapon switch lag needs to be fixed somehow.

[BOYCOTT S-T-E-A-M!]

I have this occur regularly. Never found a cause or trigger for it occuring. I pretty much rock the same four weapons 24/7 unless I'm having some fun with a minigun or something.

Many times I'm working just fine and weapon switching works just the same as it did at the very start of the game. Other times I get one or more of the following...

* Pulling out invisble weapons that still work just fine.

* Having no ammo counts showing either current magazine or total, but otherwise working just fine.

* Having my weapons pull out just fine but not work.

* Having some weapons that take ages for my character to pull out while others work fine.

* Having any weapon switching take ages to pull out. However, the weapon I had out originally can still be instantly swapped back to and works fine despite all others taking ages.


I've often times had it where pushing the hotkey for a weapon a time or two extra while its "stuck" would get it to pull the weapon out. Sometimes calling up my pip-boy and closing it would pull the weapon out as well. Neither method have been a continually reliable workaround.


As for people saying that weight of the weapon is the issue. Thats not the case. This is clearly unintended as many times it works without issue and switching times are normal while other times it can take as long as two minutes for the switch to occur. Weight does affect, as is mentioned in the help and loading tips, the "aim down sights" speed of a weapon. Having a lightweight weapon without a scope will pull up significantly faster with a right-click than a high weight weapon with a long range scope.

[Haseya]

Originally posted by Alpacalypse:

Originally posted by Alexalmighty502:

the heavier the weapon the longer it takes to equip and aim

Takes me 15 seconds to pull out a damn pistol.

I have the same thing. You can actually know when the weapon comes because the HDD light start flashing i.e. the weapon is loaded. Press the next preset and the same happens until all presents have been loaded and you're good to go. I have by no means a slow computer, it's made to run on ultra settings for Youtube recording. No other lag issues occur. Weapon weight has nothing to do with it, it;s a bug which needs to be fixed asap!

[BOYCOTT S-T-E-A-M!]

Originally posted by yurian1uk:

Originally posted by Alpacalypse:

Takes me 15 seconds to pull out a damn pistol.

I have the same thing. You can actually know when the weapon comes because the HDD light start flashing i.e. the weapon is loaded. Press the next preset and the same happens until all presents have been loaded and you're good to go. I have by no means a slow computer, it's made to run on ultra settings for Youtube recording. No other lag issues occur. Weapon weight has nothing to do with it, it;s a bug which needs to be fixed asap!

One solution when you get stuck in a long period of waiting for the switch to occur is to call up the pip-boy and equip the weapon that way.

During the times where you're stuck waiting it doesn't even consider you to have a weapon and nothing will show as equipped in the pip-boy. Sometimes you can even pull up your empty hands and essentially "finger gun", to no effect, if you keep trying to fire while its stuck attempting a weapon swap.

[OldWhovian]

Aye, me too. This is a bug that needs to be addressed. Occasionally the bug gets poor enough that if I equip the weapon in the Pip-Boy it raises my hands without any weapon (the "finger gun") or raises it with a different weapon equipped (i.e.: pressing 1 to pull up pistol, nothing happens, ghouls are now much closer, press 3 to pull up shotgun, nothing happens, mash 3, nothing happens, open pipboy, select shotgun, pistol ends up being equipped after lowering pipboy).

The best part is, I can most frequently fix this by using the phone app to equip weapons while my pipboy is raised in game (to pause the game while I use the app)...seriously crap programming if I can fix it most easily though a phone app.

[BOYCOTT S-T-E-A-M!]

Originally posted by OldWhovian:

The best part is, I can most frequently fix this by using the phone app to equip weapons while my pipboy is raised in game (to pause the game while I use the app)...seriously crap programming if I can fix it most easily though a phone app.

It might seem like crap programming, but its really great business strategy. That free phone app, like 99.9% of the other free apps that every company on the face of the Earth tries to con you into using, is likely data mining the hell out of you.

Hell, even if you don't use it at all ever and only have it installed its probably hard at work turning your phone into a gold mine.


So in the end... a $60 base game + $40 season pass + $?? continous income from a free phone app.... thats some damn nice profits right there. Especially if you multiply that by the 12 million, I believe it was, that bought the game. I could comfortably live off that amount... hell I'd bet I could comfortably live off the amount the app alone is raking in.

[Goroth]

Originally posted by OldWhovian:

Aye, me too. This is a bug that needs to be addressed. Occasionally the bug gets poor enough that if I equip the weapon in the Pip-Boy it raises my hands without any weapon (the "finger gun") or raises it with a different weapon equipped (i.e.: pressing 1 to pull up pistol, nothing happens, ghouls are now much closer, press 3 to pull up shotgun, nothing happens, mash 3, nothing happens, open pipboy, select shotgun, pistol ends up being equipped after lowering pipboy).

The best part is, I can most frequently fix this by using the phone app to equip weapons while my pipboy is raised in game (to pause the game while I use the app)...seriously crap programming if I can fix it most easily though a phone app.

The lastest patch seems to have fixed the bug for me. Atleast haven't had it since.

[BigO,USgov=SexCriminalScapegoatr]

It's still there in my game, though I have 1 optimizaiton texture mod that didn't touch weaon textures, and other 3 miscelleneous mods that are unrelated to weapon.

[Mr.Hmm]

I rarely had this issue.

I only had it at the start of the game and 10 hours in but after that it seems to have disappeared or become faster.

The only thing I changed then was tweaking my graphic settings.

Maybe you guys need to tweak your graphics by following the sticky topic here that holds tweaks/fixes?

[Spocks Toupee]

Originally posted by Gaming_Redmage:

Anyone else have their weapons not equipping or experience a long delay when using the "Favorites" keybindings? I'll hit 1 to equip a weapon, then hit 2 or 3 and sometimes my hands will drop and nothing happens, no weapons are then equipped. I then have to keep hitting the button or switching between weapons to get one to come up. This also is a ten times worst in windowed mode, check it out.

If you have a stimpack set to the Favorites Keybinding you'll also die a lot because of that when the game decides to either completely IGNORE the keypress, or registers the keypress, but decides to delay loading the graphics for the stimpack

[BOYCOTT S-T-E-A-M!]

Originally posted by Spocks Toupee:

Originally posted by Gaming_Redmage:

Anyone else have their weapons not equipping or experience a long delay when using the "Favorites" keybindings? I'll hit 1 to equip a weapon, then hit 2 or 3 and sometimes my hands will drop and nothing happens, no weapons are then equipped. I then have to keep hitting the button or switching between weapons to get one to come up. This also is a ten times worst in windowed mode, check it out.

If you have a stimpack set to the Favorites Keybinding you'll also die a lot because of that when the game decides to either completely IGNORE the keypress, or registers the keypress, but decides to delay loading the graphics for the stimpack

I've noticed that with stimpaks its not an issue as long as you're in power armor.

I'm guessing its because when you're in power armor the stimpak just gets injected by the armor and your character doesn't have to go through the whole "stabbing yourself with the stimpak" animation.

So most likely this issue is linked to the game having to switch to the different model of the item. Two other aspects of the bug support the idea of it being linked to the item models. The fact that you can often switch back to the weapon that you were using when you tried to switch and it will pull up and work fine and the fact that many times you can end up with a "finger gun" that acts like the weapon you tried to switch to but doesn't actually do anything.

[abdizz.-]

Still buggy, having this laggs while switching guns since 4 days ( ~8 hours ingame playtime) this is rly #$%&ing me off :/
why there is no patch from bethi

[Haseya]

I just posted this on another treat but since this is such a frustrating issue I post my answer here as well:

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Hi all. I found the solution and hope it works for you. I noticed that when the game starts and brings you in the initial main menu, the harddrive is very busy loading data. If you leave this loading for a minute or when you see the LED calms down, load up your saved game and the problem is fixed.

Hope this helps!
-Martin

www.youtube.com/user/onehourplaythrough

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[Fornax the Subsumer]

This is caused by half the player actions being scripted and not hardcoded. Its why certain things arent rebindable (favorite f key, 1-9, menu keybinds, etc) and so when fallout 4 has too much for its engine running it lags out. Similar to when you run too many scripted mods and some scripted events act up or fail to execute. Its because the gamebryo engine even in its latest incarnation (fo76/indev starfield) is hopelessly outdated and needs to be rewritten from the ground up or adandoned for a better one. The terrible and cumbersome feel to movement and aiming, lack of any mobility or tactical maneuvering except the peek mechanic really hold this series back. If the combat felt more like far cry or metro it'd be perfect.