Worst. PC controls. Ever.

[Ruse]

The game is fantastic, if you're playing with a controller. I hope Bethesda fires who ever handled this PC port. They designed the game for consoles from day one and it shows badly. The UI is completely designed to be handled with a controller. I'll keep this short.

Mouse feels extremely sluggish in menus (Mouse smoothing you can't turn off).
Mouse isn't accurate at all in computer terminals. IE: Hovering over text and instead the text above is highlighted. You have to click BELOW the text to access it.
No mouse wheel support in menus, ever.
No right clicking back or out of menus.
ESC doesn't work for backing out or closing either.
You're forced to use arrow keys.

Feel free to add in your two cents. Though I'm sure this will be filled with flames from fanboys who will defend it. Or tell me to wait a few months until the mod kit is out.

Despite all these flaws, I will continue playing with disgust until they're fixed.

[Ruse]

Originally posted by tytanium:

Ya, the controls for this game are garbo. Really the only thing I'm annoyed with. Also, remove the frame rate cap and then go pick a lock. Hopefully you have some bobby pins to spare. @.@

Physix is tied to FPS, just like skyrim. It's literally the same engine as skyrim in fact. Bethesda will never learn.

[Quillbert]

+1 SouthPaw. Proper key mapping please!

http://help.bethesda.net/app/fallout_feedback - I think the best results will be for us to all file our feed back with Bethesda. Steam will host our complaints, but won't use them for much. Instead we should all follow this link and Tell Bethesda that we're disatisfied with a product that is unplayable. Also. You should request your refund while you still can.

[FatStupidAmericant]

Originally posted by Vaughn:

Don't forget the keyboard mappings! MONUMENTAL FAIL, already got a refund hoping they will take it serious.

you do realize that you can change these yourself? right?

[FatStupidAmericant]

Originally posted by Cuddle Bunny!:

Controller is the best way to play in 99% of PC games. This isn't 1999 anymore

Sure, up until you want to hit a target without auto aim AKA Casual mode.

[Ruse]

Originally posted by Curly Q-Tip:

Originally posted by Vaughn:

Don't forget the keyboard mappings! MONUMENTAL FAIL, already got a refund hoping they will take it serious.

you do realize that you can change these yourself? right?

Nice try. Half the keybindings are hard bound and can't be changed in-game or in files.

[Dr_Shadox]

Originally posted by Theresa Barkskin:

Originally posted by Curly Q-Tip:

you do realize that you can change these yourself? right?

Nice try. Half the keybindings are hard bound and can't be changed in-game or in files.

Like the move key , i use an azerty keyboard so i've change 2 key (for have ZQSD) , but in build mode it dont apply , so i can only move right and back in build mode....


(i'll see for switch to qwerty and wait for an official patch or a non official mod).

(off topic = my first cap :D )
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=551832347

[Tagger]

Just a little tip..
You aren't forced to use arrow keys, if you're talking about the dialogues. It shows the arrow keys, but number 1-4, works perfectly fine :)

[Dr_Shadox]

(edit : nvm i've fail a reply ^^')

also arrow are needed for browse furniture in build mode so i need both moving key (zqsd) and arrow for browse furniture.

[rtschramm]

I agree, that on the PC you have to press too many keys to do stuff. It sucks that I can't remap the crafting keys because I use my right mouse button to move forward and the crafting controls over ride that and assign the right mouse button to rotate items, so every time I have to craft something, I have to remap the forward key to another key.

So I'm really disappointed in this game so far, but I'm hoping that there will be mods to address these issues.

And did I say how bad the favorites menu sucks BIG TIME! Why can't you just use your mouse to select the item instead of the left and right movement keys; so in effect, once the Favorites menu pops up you can't move left or right while in combat?

It looks to me like Fallout 4 on the PC was designed as an after thought. Once again a developer doesn't understand that a console is NOT A PC and what works on a console doesn't always work on a PC.

[Vachie]

100% concur with OP.

I struggle to do simple things despite not having any trouble in any other PC game ever.

And I have quite no life that I fill up with many PC titles over the years...

Example: why do I have to press R to scrap and Enter to accept? That requires me to have 3 hands since I use WASD with a mouse.
(Usually letting go of the mouse to press enter, or losing my placement on movement keys to press enter.)

[Equal]

My only problem is the aiming. Fix the aiming. Ya the UI is annoying, but coming from GTA V and having to move your hand off the mouse everytime you want to access your phone or control your vehicle mid air I'm kinda used to it. Also did I mention to fix the aiming? Well fix the aiming. Also, fix the aiming.

[healerboy]

Originally posted by Theresa Barkskin:

The game is fantastic, if you're playing with a controller. I hope Bethesda fires who ever handled this PC port. They designed the game for consoles from day one and it shows badly. The UI is completely designed to be handled with a controller. I'll keep this short.

Mouse feels extremely sluggish in menus (Mouse smoothing you can't turn off).
Mouse isn't accurate at all in computer terminals. IE: Hovering over text and instead the text above is highlighted. You have to click BELOW the text to access it.
No mouse wheel support in menus, ever.
No right clicking back or out of menus.
ESC doesn't work for backing out or closing either.
You're forced to use arrow keys.

Feel free to add in your two cents. Though I'm sure this will be filled with flames from fanboys who will defend it. Or tell me to wait a few months until the mod kit is out.

Despite all these flaws, I will continue playing with disgust until they're fixed.

I agree how could this EVER have been play tested on PC and passed???????????
How about junking mouse turn,click R then ENTER (wtf?) then mouse again.
and every time I alt+tab to check browsers etc when I I king hit whoeever I was standing near. I mean seriously was ANY play test done on PC at all?
Maybe the controls where made for left handers?
Almost all so called "RPG" these days seems to be action games made for console with a BADLY ported PC version, maybe they think too many PC players just download pirated versions. Well maybe we will next time after being treated to this abortion that we paid good money for.
The MOST frustrating thing is I can't help but feel there is a decent, or maybe even a good(?) game buried under the AWFUL UI.
Poor show

[supertrooper225]

Get a controller.

[healerboy]

Originally posted by Equalizer:

My only problem is the aiming. Fix the aiming. Ya the UI is annoying, but coming from GTA V and having to move your hand off the mouse everytime you want to access your phone or control your vehicle mid air I'm kinda used to it. Also did I mention to fix the aiming? Well fix the aiming. Also, fix the aiming.

yeah aiming agh and the levelling Up i have no idea what Im doing here at all ina REAL rpg levelling up and spending long minutes debating what skills to augment is a major part of the game, here i have no idea wtf I'm ever doing so i just kept clicking and got some weird random build! thats NOT what RPG is about - for me anyway'
Ok lets forget the story and terrible NPC interaction and go shoot stuff... wtf this VATS is so laggy and non intuitive even the bang bang part of ther game is frustrating!

[healerboy]

Originally posted by supertrooper225:

Get a controller.

dont own a working controller
should have a warning on the game
"DO NOT ATTEMPT TO PLAY THIS GAME WITH KEYBOARD AND MOUSE - A CONTROLLER IS NEEDED. NOT INCLUDED "