Physics...

[Mockingcrow]

I just hope trench coats or fabrics in general have animations/physics to them... nothing more immersion breaking than a long coat or cloak sticking to your heels with a static mesh while youre running or jumping in 3rd person, next up is the awful running diagonally animation or strafing -_-

Yea yea, I know, HDT physics mod will "fix" this, but even that mod wasnt anywhere near perfect, as I had cloaks in skyrim on my followers suddenly stretching for miles or blanketing my entire screen at times.

[ostar]

They do, but it's extremely limited.

[Mockingcrow]

Was that a talking point or shown in gameplay?

[ostar]

I'm going off what I saw from the E3 gameplay footage.

The guy at the beginning in the trenchcoat for example. It bends in a couple places around the legs. The sleeve's cuffs stay glued in the exact same position, even when he lifts up his arms.

Hair is the same way. The "wife"'s hair bends in one place, but other than that, it's a helmet.

[Mockingcrow]

Well... heres to hoping the PC version will be more flexible than a few bends.... or the long wait for hair or fabric physics mods begins.

[DCid]

There are no clothes physics from what I've seen. Look at that Vault-Tec representative in the beginning. Look at the way his collar and tie move and stretch as he moves his head. From the limited stuff they've shown... It looks like clothes are the same as in Skyrim; no physics and very badly weighted. Metal doesn't bend or stretch as you move but in Skyrim you can clearly see your metal armor behaving as if it was made of cloth. Body parts will clip through clothing, etc.

Clothes in this game will act like last gen. So don't expect some realistic cloth simulation going on. You'll see a flag flapping in the wind... But that's about it.

[mbpoblet]

Originally posted by ostar:

I'm going off what I saw from the E3 gameplay footage.

The guy at the beginning in the trenchcoat for example. It bends in a couple places around the legs. The sleeve's cuffs stay glued in the exact same position, even when he lifts up his arms.

Hair is the same way. The "wife"'s hair bends in one place, but other than that, it's a helmet.

Eh, who knows... what gameplay we've seen was probably at console quality (don't want console players complaining that the game doesn't look as good), but we know that the game is infected with nvidia gameworks (including hairworks), so we still might be able to trade most of our framerate for nice flowing hair and maybe even clothes...

[ostar]

Originally posted by mbpoblet:

Originally posted by ostar:

I'm going off what I saw from the E3 gameplay footage.

The guy at the beginning in the trenchcoat for example. It bends in a couple places around the legs. The sleeve's cuffs stay glued in the exact same position, even when he lifts up his arms.

Hair is the same way. The "wife"'s hair bends in one place, but other than that, it's a helmet.

Eh, who knows... what gameplay we've seen was probably at console quality (don't want console players complaining that the game doesn't look as good), but we know that the game is infected with nvidia gameworks (including hairworks), so we still might be able to trade most of our framerate for nice flowing hair and maybe even clothes...

I doubt it. Console Witcher 3 still has individual hair and cloth physics. PC Witcher 3 with hairworks turned off still has individual hair physics.

I've never seen a game where you can just turn on/off hair and cloth having their own physics.

Enhance them, sure. But completely turn them on/off?

[mbpoblet]

Originally posted by ostar:

I've never seen a game where you can just turn on/off hair and cloth having their own physics.

Ah, OK, you're probably right then. :)

(Wonder what they're using nvidia's ransomware for, then, though...)

[DCid]

Originally posted by mbpoblet:

Originally posted by ostar:

I've never seen a game where you can just turn on/off hair and cloth having their own physics.

Ah, OK, you're probably right then. :)

(Wonder what they're using nvidias ransomware for, then, though...)

Explosions, smoke effects, particle effects, etc... But no hair/cloth simulation.

[Chikuwu]

Originally posted by ostar:

Originally posted by mbpoblet:

Eh, who knows... what gameplay we've seen was probably at console quality (don't want console players complaining that the game doesn't look as good), but we know that the game is infected with nvidia gameworks (including hairworks), so we still might be able to trade most of our framerate for nice flowing hair and maybe even clothes...

I doubt it. Console Witcher 3 still has individual hair and cloth physics. PC Witcher 3 with hairworks turned off still has individual hair physics.

I've never seen a game where you can just turn on/off hair and cloth having their own physics.

Enhance them, sure. But completely turn them on/off?

Two worlds 2 had a total control in settings about hair physics and physics alltogether.

if you disabled nvidia physx from the game, there was nothing. everything was static.

But, you can turn off hair physics in Witcher 3, so the heads etc bend only because the head bends.

[Mockingcrow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-x9B_4qBAkk

So to clarify... nvidia gameworks means or incorporates nvidia physx?

Cause if so... then I have hopes again for fabrics. Collars are kind of bottom of the totem pole, but mainly just long coats/jackets and such that SHOULD have some sort of wavy animation as you move.

Guess well see in a week.

[ostar]

Originally posted by Chiku:

Two worlds 2 had a total control in settings about hair physics and physics alltogether.

if you disabled nvidia physx from the game, there was nothing. everything was static.

But, you can turn off hair physics in Witcher 3, so the heads etc bend only because the head bends.

From personal experience, hair still has physics even if you turn off the nvidia hairworks settings (the only "hair" related graphic settings) in Witcher 3.

Originally posted by Mockingcrow:

So to clarify... nvidia gameworks means or incorporates nvidia physx?

Cause if so... then I have hopes again for fabrics. Collars are kind of bottom of the totem pole, but mainly just long coats/jackets and such that SHOULD have some sort of wavy animation as you move.

Guess well see in a week.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GameWorks_%28API%29

PhysX is one part of Gameworks.

We will see it's influence in 11 days.

[Mockingcrow]

Originally posted by ostar:

Originally posted by Chiku:

Two worlds 2 had a total control in settings about hair physics and physics alltogether.

if you disabled nvidia physx from the game, there was nothing. everything was static.

But, you can turn off hair physics in Witcher 3, so the heads etc bend only because the head bends.

From personal experience, hair still has physics even if you turn off the nvidia hairworks settings (the only "hair" related graphic settings) in Witcher 3.

Originally posted by Mockingcrow:

So to clarify... nvidia gameworks means or incorporates nvidia physx?

Cause if so... then I have hopes again for fabrics. Collars are kind of bottom of the totem pole, but mainly just long coats/jackets and such that SHOULD have some sort of wavy animation as you move.

Guess well see in a week.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GameWorks_%28API%29

PhysX is one part of Gameworks.

We will see it's influence in 11 days.

Dude... "a WEEK" sounds better... dont burst my bubbles with this 11 days nonsense!