Righteous Authority - sniper weapon of choice or junk for stealth no VATS player?

[SzalonyChemik]

Basically like in the title above - does the double critical bonus of the Authority apply to sneak attack criticals? Because, since I don't use VATS at all, the faster filling critical bar does nothing for me.
Also a sidenote - do weapons deal random criticals when fired in FPS mode? If yes then maybe Authority makes sense as automatic rifle?

[Bad_Marduk]

it should apply the bonus.

[owen8964]

I think criticals only happen when you choose in VATS.

[Bad_Marduk]

crits are luck based outside of vats, you just dont get the build up if you dont use it.

[deeeeeep]

^dis

[SzalonyChemik]

Yeah, but sneak attack critical happens always when I'm sneaking and I hit someone that doesn't see me. Doesn't the bonus apply there?

[Bad_Marduk]

honestly idk. i used mine as a shotgun and never went for sneak attaks. take a overdrive and start testing it.

[ghpstage]

Sneak attacks, while logged by the game as criticals do not function the same and receive no bonuses relatedto criticals incl the better critical perk, frozen weapons freeze ability nor the damage boost from Righteous Authority.

Annoyingly, as they are logged as criticals in the game statistics theymake it appear as though random criticals are occuring, but the truth is that random criticals don't happen IN FO4, with only two exceptions
-Gun bash with rank 4 of the basher perk
-Anything after taking the Overdrive chem

Unless you have large quantites of overdrive then your not going to get anything from a weapon with this legendary effect if you don't use VATS. Certainly not going to perform much better than a ormal laser rifle as a sniper unless it has better base stats.

Though it might be worth noting that criticals will hit even with a 1% chance so if you have one banked up it can be used for a VATS sniper critical shot.

[doodx]

VATS hit chances are reduced irrespective of if your weapon has simple iron sights or a telescope for aiming, rendering it pretty much useless for snipers, consequently rendering the crit damage bonus obsolete.

[Prolific Avocado]

Its a decent early game weapon and thats it, by mid to late game its less than useless.

In the early game every weapon is viable, so I guess that answers your question.

[insolent1]

Originally posted by JLMVashts:

crits are luck based outside of vats, you just dont get the build up if you dont use it.

the only criticals outside of VATS are sneak attacks and when you use the overdrive chem

[SzalonyChemik]

Originally posted by Brew:

Originally posted by JLMVashts:

crits are luck based outside of vats, you just dont get the build up if you dont use it.

the only criticals outside of VATS are sneak attacks and when you use the overdrive chem

Originally posted by ghpstage:

Sneak attacks, while logged by the game as criticals do not function the same and receive no bonuses relatedto criticals incl the better critical perk, frozen weapons freeze ability nor the damage boost from Righteous Authority.

So... conflicting answers?

Originally posted by AxeWaffle:

Its a decent early game weapon and thats it, by mid to late game its less than useless.

In the early game every weapon is viable, so I guess that answers your question.

How it is less than useless? If you kit even regular sniper rifle with Improved Sniper Barrel, Overcharged Capacitor, Recoil Compensating Stock and Fine-tuned Beam Focuser + scope of your choice, even though you have to wait till level 28 to do that, the damage and long range firepower goes through the roof. Better than anything else I have, at least (not counting heavy weapons which I tend not to use often anyways).

[insolent1]

Originally posted by SzalonyChemik:

So... conflicting answers?

not really conflicting, sneak attacks are treated differently from VATS criticals, the only perks that effect sneak attacks are ninja, sandman and deacons cloak & dagger, if taken in the right order(bugged) they can give a modifier of x6.3 damage

The overdrive chem is still a bit of unknown, while it does produce criticals, I have not seen it stated if it is effected by the better criticals perk or the legendary modifiers on some weapons.

[SzalonyChemik]

So I still don't know if the Authority will benefit me in role I intend for it. Seems like not, though. Will still probably kit it out as a sniper, though, if for nothing else than unique name that will stand up in my inventory. And also, maybe I'll use VATS one day once?
Also if it really is like it seems to be, that the only way of scoring critical hits in Fallout 4 is using VATS, because the sneak attack criticals are in fact not-really-criticals, that is a huge minus for the game design, as it clearly benefits one playstyle (VATS) over the other (FPS).

[insolent1]

Originally posted by SzalonyChemik:

So I still don't know if the Authority will benefit me in role I intend for it. Seems like not, though.
Also if it really is like it seems to be, that the only way of scoring critical hits in Fallout 4 is using VATS, because the sneak attack criticals are in fact not-really-criticals, that is a huge minus for the game design, as it clearly benefits one playstyle (VATS) over the other (FPS).

The removal of criticals outside of VATS is a bad move especially since they improved gunplay so well, another downside to this is the luck stat is not really much use anymore if you don't use VATS, there are a couple of perks that are still useful, bloody mess and IS.
RA is really only worth it if you use VATS, if you don't use VATS a normal laser rifle will be just as good.

If you look at the perk tree as a whole VATS is very much favoured throughout it.

Actually forget about RA, go buy "Old Faithful" off Arturo in DC, it can modded to a rifle and thats a good weapon to use outside of VATS

[SzalonyChemik]

Originally posted by Brew:

Originally posted by SzalonyChemik:

So I still don't know if the Authority will benefit me in role I intend for it. Seems like not, though.
Also if it really is like it seems to be, that the only way of scoring critical hits in Fallout 4 is using VATS, because the sneak attack criticals are in fact not-really-criticals, that is a huge minus for the game design, as it clearly benefits one playstyle (VATS) over the other (FPS).

The removal of criticals outside of VATS is a bad move especially since they improved gunplay so well, another downside to this is the luck stat is not really much use anymore if you don't use VATS, there are a couple of perks that are still useful, bloody mess and IS.
RA is really only worth it if you use VATS, if you don't use VATS a normal laser rifle will be just as good.

If you look at the perk tree as a whole VATS is very much favoured throughout it.

Actually forget about RA, go buy "Old Faithful" off Arturo in DC, it can modded to a rifle and thats a good weapon to use outside of VATS

Exactly my thoughts. Also I totally forgot about the Old Faithful. Obviously seems like awesome base for high damage laser sniper.