Why settlers can't find their bed at night?

[Commander Tom]

What's wrong with them??? +18 settlers and they all stand there together ar night, like some sort of a cult. different settlements, nothing helps.

[CONFUZZLED®]

Synths don't sleep. You're settlers are all synths plotting against you at night while you sleep.

[Kyros]

because they can't find a way to get there.
The problem with settlers is that if you start making your 3 story megaton shack they often have problems to get up there. It's even more obvious when using prefabs to create rooms : they try to walk through walls while you took the time to add a freaking door.

After much frustration I went back to Sanctuary and placed beds inside the pre-war homes, at least they knew where to go this time.

[Commander Tom]

Originally posted by CONFUZZLED®:

Synths don't sleep. You're settlers are all synths plotting against you at night while you sleep.

hahahahaha

[Commander Tom]

Im on abernaty farm. Stacked +22 beds inside. Had trouble sleeping at night..
So I built them a new one, a big sleeping shack with plenty of space on the ground floor, extremely easy accesible. (moved the beds there
No deal. They just stand there bugged inside the building where i placed the beds first.

[astemix]

Well i seen them walk the most advanced systems and fail the most simple... to be honest its the pathsystem that is bad.
I have a three story building and they take the stairs perfect and then walk into the wall because the bed is on the other side.
I had a one story building with good stairs and everything on the ground and people did use the stairs as they should and walked into the wall instead of the door that was in the midle.
Then i have had a place with complicated stairs where they walked to the places where they should go and everything.

To set it simple they are silly!

[MarkoDarko]

mine usually gather at night where i have my food and drink shop before they go to actually go to bed. so i turned the place into a party platform lol

[Commander Tom]

it decreases my happiness from 85 to 67 and dropping cause i have +40 beds and noone who can find theirs... everything is so broken in this game.

I look on the map i got 28 settlers 50 hapiness. I teleport: only 22 and 80.
Stores are a joke, i finally have level three stores. I placed 4 aid stations and 2 trader emporiums. MORE OFTEN OR NOT they have 0 or 28 bottlecaps on them.

If they do got money, let's say 500 caps I sell them my pure water. Then after the transaction, when they should have 2. They suddenly got 700 caps. So i continue to sell. Only to notice that my water is gone i I haven't gained the caps i should. Move to the next lvk 3 merchant... start selling. Items lost, no money gained.

[Kyros]

Originally posted by Gatekeeper:

it decreases my happiness from 85 to 67 and dropping cause i have +40 beds and noone who can find theirs... everything is so broken in this game.

I look on the map i got 28 settlers 50 hapiness. I teleport: only 22 and 80.
Stores are a joke, i finally have level three stores. I placed 4 aid stations and 2 trader emporiums. MORE OFTEN OR NOT they have 0 or 28 bottlecaps on them.

If they do got money, let's say 500 caps I sell them my pure water. Then after the transaction, when they should have 2. They suddenly got 700 caps. So i continue to sell. Only to notice that my water is gone i I haven't gained the caps i should. Move to the next lvk 3 merchant... start selling. Items lost, no money gained.

28 settlers? sounds you're using mods, honestly try to avoid the .esp for now as it's not really safe without GECK.
Especially the settlement stuff, it's already glitchy in vanilla so if you add mods to it, it just won't help. But that's just my opinion, on my side I just use replacers until GECK comes early 2016.

[TRCThrobbinhood]

They all have Alzheimers.

[Vardis]

I usually have to save and reload when this happens, then the game loads the area properly and puts them in bed.

[Commander Tom]

Originally posted by The Trickster:

Originally posted by Gatekeeper:

it decreases my happiness from 85 to 67 and dropping cause i have +40 beds and noone who can find theirs... everything is so broken in this game.

I look on the map i got 28 settlers 50 hapiness. I teleport: only 22 and 80.
Stores are a joke, i finally have level three stores. I placed 4 aid stations and 2 trader emporiums. MORE OFTEN OR NOT they have 0 or 28 bottlecaps on them.

If they do got money, let's say 500 caps I sell them my pure water. Then after the transaction, when they should have 2. They suddenly got 700 caps. So i continue to sell. Only to notice that my water is gone i I haven't gained the caps i should. Move to the next lvk 3 merchant... start selling. Items lost, no money gained.

28 settlers? sounds you're using mods, honestly try to avoid the .esp for now as it's not really safe without GECK.
Especially the settlement stuff, it's already glitchy in vanilla so if you add mods to it, it just won't help. But that's just my opinion, on my side I just use replacers until GECK comes early 2016.

No, I'm playing vanilla, no mods here, It says it has 28 ( a random number) and then when i fast travel there it'll be 22.

So.. there's level 4 merchants... There bugged too (the girl wont leave combs.. so i can't recruit em)

[Painkiller]

Hell, I wish they'd give more stuff for settlers to do. They just work, stand around, or sleep... sometimes sit and have a drink. Pretty lifeless, really.

[Harmonica]

It sounds like an issue with beds. I'd like to give you a believable story reason why it's happening but no, it's just bad pathfinding. Lots of things cause the pathfinding to just stop working. Usually one settler is unable to path somewhere (like to their bed) and all the other pathfinding grinds to a halt while they spend cpu time pathfinding like crazy looking for alternative routes. Make sure your beds have enough space to walk between, and aren't too close to exterior walls. Don't have very long corridors of beds with one path between them, you need to break them up into rows with spaces.

Staircases and raised shack foundations are a particular problem, but you can successfully use one small staircase in a settlement with dozens of settlers and have them form an orderly queue up it, it's just not a very efficient plan. Sometimes settlers will try to climb up shack foundations and into beds if the bed is very near to the edge of the foundation. You need to make those beds further away from the edge.

Another related issue is new settlers arriving who you've moved from other settlements. They can get a bit 'lost'. You'll see them just standing there doing nothing. They might even have got stuck in the ground :/ Go into build mode and order them to move somewhere, and that will cause them to respawn at a bed. Something like that can cause everyone to stop moving.

That said I've got some crazy shacks built that I didn't think would work but they have no problem navigating them. It's extremely fragile and variable, and you should enlist the help of a companion when building things, ask them if they can go and stand on stuff you just built (they might say no because obviously it's unsafe and they don't want to go there :) )

[Kyros]

Here are some examples of built spaces settlers can't find their way in or out. Even with clear doors/paths. The pathfinding needs some work. Because it makes everything you took the time to build pointless, because at the end of the day, only you can get through it. Not even companions.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=574974274
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=574974343
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=575499633

Sometimes this is how I want to get rid of stupid settlers :

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=302110448

[CONFUZZLED®]

So i was able to replicate the same thing. Most of settlers were in the corn field just standing around at night. It's like children of the corn scene.