terminal hacking connected with int score?

[Simpson3k]

At my current playthrough with int 1 the hacking screen at basic level is increadible filled with words. Makes hacking pretty difficult if you dont find more then 2 correct letters at the first attempt.

I am very sure those wherent even close as much words in my last playthrough with int 10.

But perhaps i am only confusing memories.

[Sentient_Toaster]

Think of it as a reason to try something other than a low intelligence + idiot savant build.

[Simpson3k]

Hm i kind of feel offended by those replys to a topic that simply gave out a discovered fact. Luckely for you both i am on a higher level of behavor, so i wont react in an equal manner.

[psoblackjack]

Good on you Simpson3k

[White Knight]

Good on you OP, the high road suits you.

I've heard someone else mention this and I thought it was interesting. The fact you are a player who has tried with an Int 10 and an Int 1 character, suggests to me that you might be onto something more interesting than vague internet rumours.

If it is true, that's fine with me. It makes good sense. Why should someone who deliberately chooses to play a low Int character expect to hack computers as easily as one with a high Int?

That would be like saying the President of the Chess Club should be able to throw a football as well as the Captain of the Football Team.

(Yes, yes, of course such things are possible but it's still an unreasonable expectation)

[Danceofmasks]

You're not confused, hacking is affected by intelligence.
In my idiot savant game, hacking was a chore. In my other games (all >10 int), hacking is trivial.
And no, I don't put points in the hacking perk.

[Simpson3k]

Well it surprised me positive that there is a connection, gives the game more..hm depth(?)

[Theo Hardmeier]

And I hear people say mentats in fallout 4 is useless haha.

At least using one removes some of the pointless duds which is good.

[kaffekoppen]

What? Mentats are awesome. Eat some before you hand in a quest :)

Originally posted by Danceofmasks:

You're not confused, hacking is affected by intelligence.
In my idiot savant game, hacking was a chore. In my other games (all >10 int), hacking is trivial.
And no, I don't put points in the hacking perk.

Yep, it's affected, and not just a little.

I wonder if lockpicking is tied to perception in the same way.

[ImHelping]

Gotta be honest. I had better luck when I gave up and just started selecting words at random when it came to hacking. Even when I messed up and waited for the cooldown (I know I coulda backed out early), it was still faster than slowly scrolling through looking for dud clears.

Originally posted by kaffekoppen:

What? Mentats are awesome. Eat some before you hand in a quest :)

Originally posted by Danceofmasks:

You're not confused, hacking is affected by intelligence.
In my idiot savant game, hacking was a chore. In my other games (all >10 int), hacking is trivial.
And no, I don't put points in the hacking perk.

Yep, it's affected, and not just a little.

I wonder if lockpicking is tied to perception in the same way.

While the lockpicking perk us perception, the help files say Agility helps with it. I have no idea if that's true or not, the Help files are often missleading.

Like how the supply lines help info says it uses your "workbench inventory" and food, and not just junk and components.

[Sentient_Toaster]

Originally posted by Danceofmasks:

You're not confused, hacking is affected by intelligence.
In my idiot savant game, hacking was a chore. In my other games (all >10 int), hacking is trivial.
And no, I don't put points in the hacking perk.

Eh, it's useful unless you're always bringing along a companion with hacking skills. There seem to be a fair number of bits where high-level hacking is the only possible way to get access, much like there usually isn't an alternative to lockpicking if you want a safe open. Doesn't seem like you can shoot a lock open, for instance.

[Simpson3k]

Yes thats why builds like this needs a bit of ..uhm carefully snaking through the quest forest first without failing to much opportunites because of lacking perks. Ie ..i want to max out specials first, thats why i have no perk beside idiot savant 2 at this time. I cannot anything beside of silly giggeling. ^^

[Artan]

Originally posted by R:

Dont guess at words first, instead find the dud strings.
But that requires real world intelligence(not much though), not in game stats.

Try a word or two FIRST. Then find all duds and possibly a tries reset.
If you look for duds first you waste the tries reset which is very powerful.

This should give you good base to work with in regards to info on possible matches, will remove a good number of duds and should leave you with a full number of tries.

Simple Game Theory.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_theory

[Awen]

Originally posted by R:

Originally posted by Quinn:

Try a word or two FIRST. Then find all duds and possibly a tries reset.
If you look for duds first you waste the tries reset which is very powerful.

This should give you good base to work with in regards to info on possible matches, will remove a good number of duds and should leave you with a full number of tries.

Simple Game Theory.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_theory

This is illogical.
Why guess at almost certain incorrect passwords, when you could remove duds, and increase your chance of success. Everytime im done removing duds, I have two or three options, with four chances.. so there is no way I could get it wrong unless I click on a symbol.
But then again, like I said, it takes real world intelligence do it that way...
I like how you link to game theory, when if you look at it from my perspective, you will see it always ends in success, where as your method has flaws and can often end in failure.
Also by doing it your way, you are never guarenteed a reset, as it is a crap shoot.
Of course, as you said, simple game theory. The difference is my method of game is different to yours, yours may seem superior to you(the only logical reason as why you will still do it that way), however I know my method is superior, because I never fail with my method.

You always want to try at least one word, before you start removing duds and getting a chance at a reset, but not a random word...one that has many others that are similar to it, so you either get lots of similarity or none, and can really narrow the field.

[McGoodGreen]

Originally posted by R:

Originally posted by Quinn:

Try a word or two FIRST. Then find all duds and possibly a tries reset.
If you look for duds first you waste the tries reset which is very powerful.

This should give you good base to work with in regards to info on possible matches, will remove a good number of duds and should leave you with a full number of tries.

Simple Game Theory.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_theory

This is illogical.
Why guess at almost certain incorrect passwords, when you could remove duds, and increase your chance of success. Everytime im done removing duds, I have two or three options, with four chances.. so there is no way I could get it wrong unless I click on a symbol.
But then again, like I said, it takes real world intelligence do it that way...
I like how you link to game theory, when if you look at it from my perspective, you will see it always ends in success, where as your method has flaws and can often end in failure.
Also by doing it your way, you are never guarenteed a reset, as it is a crap shoot.
Of course, as you said, simple game theory. The difference is my method of game is different to yours, yours may seem superior to you(the only logical reason as why you will still do it that way), however I know my method is superior, because I never fail with my method.

I've used Quinns method since Fallout 3 and have never failed with his method.

Does that then make both methods equal? If we are just measuring this by personal success.

In the end, the "superior" method is whatever yields success and satisfaction for the player.

[Shrapnel]

Originally posted by I'm Helping!:

Gotta be honest. I had better luck when I gave up and just started selecting words at random when it came to hacking. Even when I messed up and waited for the cooldown (I know I coulda backed out early), it was still faster than slowly scrolling through looking for dud clears.

theres some other way to hacking other than this?
i think i hacked 3 times in F3 before i realized it was ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and that i could get into any terminal in about 20 seconds by just clicking ♥♥♥♥ as fast as possible