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Masenko_Tops Dec 10, 2015 @ 3:45pm
PC randomly shuts down while playing fallout 4
Every time i play fallout my pc will randomly shut down while i play and so i was just wonder if it was happening to anyone else and if theres a fix http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-2860582/computer-turns-randomly-playing-fallout.html these people are also experincing the same problem so im starting to think its fallout 4
Last edited by Masenko_Tops; Dec 10, 2015 @ 3:46pm
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carlydunham Dec 10, 2015 @ 3:49pm 
what are your specs mine isnt doing this so itsa bit of a false statement
J.T. McRoo Dec 10, 2015 @ 3:50pm 
That's usually caused by hardware overheating. You could try running FO4 in a window while you monitor temps to see what's going on. Worst case scenario is your PSU is dying.
Last edited by J.T. McRoo; Dec 10, 2015 @ 3:52pm
Nite69 Dec 10, 2015 @ 3:51pm 
Not happening to me at all, computer shutting off is a sign of a bad or too weak of a power supply
Last edited by Nite69; Dec 10, 2015 @ 3:52pm
Tizferatu Dec 10, 2015 @ 3:52pm 
Originally posted by =EGC= _Nite_:
Not happening to me at all, computer shutting off is a sign of a bad power supply

Bad PSU or bad temps, or corrupt OS.
Serrel Dec 10, 2015 @ 3:53pm 
I tend to agree that it's likely a overheating problem. I bet most those people are using sub par laptops with insufficient cooling. Your processor will shut down to protect itself when it reaches around 100c for a i7. You can download MSI afterburner for free which monitors both your GPU and cpu. If you want a dedicated one for the CPU then try coretemp as it has a overheat warning.

Last edited by Serrel; Dec 10, 2015 @ 3:54pm
Tizferatu Dec 10, 2015 @ 3:55pm 
Originally posted by Serrel:
I tend to agree that it's likely a overheating problem I bet most those people are using sub par laptops with insufficient cooling. Your processor will shut down to protect itself when it reaches around 100c for a i7. You can download MSI afterburner for free which monitors both your GPU and cpu. If you want a dedicated one for the CPU then try coretemp as it has a overheat warning.

I run coretemp for cpu (since it's lightweight and gives the temp for each core) and precision x for my graphics card monitoring.

The important part is being able to monitor each CPU core, cause if any one of them gets close to tj. max it's going to scaleback/shut down.
Serrel Dec 10, 2015 @ 3:57pm 
Originally posted by tizuby:
Originally posted by Serrel:
I tend to agree that it's likely a overheating problem I bet most those people are using sub par laptops with insufficient cooling. Your processor will shut down to protect itself when it reaches around 100c for a i7. You can download MSI afterburner for free which monitors both your GPU and cpu. If you want a dedicated one for the CPU then try coretemp as it has a overheat warning.

I run coretemp for cpu (since it's lightweight and gives the temp for each core) and precision x for my graphics card monitoring.

The important part is being able to monitor each CPU core, cause if any one of them gets close to tj. max it's going to scaleback/shut down.
Yeah my brothers i7 recently was reading 102c playing the sims 4, he has water cooling. Turns out the i7s sensors were goosed.
Nite69 Dec 10, 2015 @ 3:58pm 
that person you linked too is on a Rosewill PSU (which is not that great a quality of a brand) powering a R9 280 so I can see why he had issues.
Serrel Dec 10, 2015 @ 4:02pm 
Originally posted by =EGC= _Nite_:
that person you linked too is on a Rosewill PSU (which is not that great a quality of a brand) powering a R9 280 so I can see why he had issues.
Yeah that's another crucial part that most people (unless they know what they are doing) skimp on. I have lost count of the people who try to run and even overclocked powerful GFX cards on £20 bargain basement PSU, they see wattage at a 1000 and their eyes light up when in fact the amperage is most critical and how much it can support on its rails.
Masenko_Tops Dec 10, 2015 @ 4:11pm 
Yeah i think my cpu is overheating https://gyazo.com/103e8c9f25483c1ac92c5604cad3a0b6
this is while fallout 4 is running
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PolecatEZ Dec 10, 2015 @ 4:19pm 
Its a "creeping doom" memory leak. The engine was poorly programmed and continuously bombards the Windows system-reserved RAM addresses. This causes all sorts of fun on some systems (and has nothing to do with your hardware, more likely what kind of voodoo other programs are running that actually buffer your system). Most notable are subtle voltage fluctuations with the RAM as your system and Windows scramble to protect itself. This results in sudden reboots or CTD's with no system message whatsoever.

2 things you can try:

1) Switch up your PSU to something hardier that can overcompensate for voltage spikes caused by the game.

2) Run RamCache or a RamDrive at minimal settings. This dynamically manages your RAM and keeps the game from approaching the system-reserved memory addresses. The game itself only needs about 12gb of RAM to work well, windows needs about 3, so whatever is left (usually 1gb on a 16gb system) put towards dynamic management by something else.

3) Reinstaling Windows with a CLEAN install might help (in theory), but I don't know anyone that got a long-term fix from this.

Once the problem starts, it doesn't stop until one of the above are done.

It happened to me and took about a week of hard-core troubleshooting to nail down the cause. CPU/GPU temps on my watercooled system never went above 45c when running the game and it still happened. Traded up my brand-new top-of-the-line EVGA 1000w PSU for an older Coolermaster 1200w PSU and it worked...but this was after some thorough RAM monitoring that revealed what the game was doing right up until Windows shuts itself down to protect itself as a failsafe.

Before that, the RAMcache method bought me about 3 days of smooth gameplay before the issue magically started up again.

TL;DR its not a heat problem, its a RAM voltage issue caused by extremely poor optimization with the game engine. Approach a solution to that in various ways and you'll find something that works.
Last edited by PolecatEZ; Dec 10, 2015 @ 4:28pm
Defektiv Dec 10, 2015 @ 4:19pm 
Use Core Temp to monitor CPU temps. Use MSi Afterburner or your video card vendors app to monitor GPU temps. Set up alarms to go off and then a safe shutdown and enable logging. Then when it shuts down you can see if its overtemp. Overtemps are usually the things that will hard shut down a rig, as they are the conditions that are unsafe for a processor to continue running at and require immediate shut down. Most other failure Windows can at least recover from and give you back the desktop. In the case of the GPU, usually you can ramp up the fan curve so it spins faster earlier. They usually tune them to be pretty quiet out of the box so they don't get destroyed by people screaming about their state-of-the-art, powerful processor "making noise". But that makes them run quite a bit hotter than they can with a simple curve adjustment.
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Bobo, not Tatsu Dec 10, 2015 @ 4:21pm 
Im having this issue since the patch. My temps are fine (55c on videocard and 42c on the cpu) so I dont think its that. My desktop and laptop are both experiencing this issue.

If I install the version out of the retail box and prevent steam from updating the game it runs fine. If I let it patch it then starts having this issue again.

Any thoughts?
SeriousCCIE Dec 10, 2015 @ 4:27pm 
Dude I had a rosewill power supply smoke my house. It died right before the 1 year warranty was up. I bought it on sale at newegg.

The smell of melted plastic is STILL permeating that PC. I am so so glad it didnt damge the computer.

I complained but the power supply died 3 days before the warranty was up. It wasn't worth the fight. I bought a different brand and didn't buy based on price, I bought based on the warranty.
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