TGM

[Balls]

Why am I so compelled to open console and hit TGM. I don't feel immersed enough to care, so I just run through. How many of you actually play this game the way it's meant to be played? - I played Fallout 3 and New Vegas with no cheats... but I can't help it here. Reminds me of how I play Morrowind; TGM all the way, but normal with Oblivion & Skyrim. Actually that's a lie, even Morrowind was played with zero cheats when I got it on the first Xbox.

Am I alone in this quest of unfaithfulness? I tried Survival mode to force myself not to open the console but drinking water every 5 minutes is the most annoying thing I've ever witnessed.

[Chaosium]

Wrong game for you

[Balls]

Originally posted by Chaosium:

Wrong game for you

Not at all. I think Bethesda ruined it.

[Lady Aeleanor]

Originally posted by Balls:

Not at all. I think Bethesda ruined it.

How did they ruin it? If you need to play it in god mode, then as Chaosium said - not the game for you.

[Balls]

Has anyone played other Bethesda games or are you all young? Fallout 4 is a disgrace in comparison to all of their great games.

[wtiger27]

I played it for over 3200 hrs, the way it was meant to be played. Mostly. I did use the console to bypass DiMA's dumb puzzle. But no outside source mods. I Like it a lot more than FO3.

[Lady Aeleanor]

Originally posted by Balls:

Has anyone played other Bethesda games or are you all young? Fallout 4 is a disgrace in comparison to all of their great games.

Oh, please. It's the best of the series. Just don't play it, if you think it's so bad. Problem solved.

[goatfish]

i've played it long enough to have a system of getting everything in the game (besides institute power armor paint job) including how to avoid the bugs with emogene cabot and the scribe.
i've used TGM a few times as well as coc qasmoke (a mod i had removed quantum x-01 from spawning, so only way to get it was to already have it). if you want to use console commands to have fun, knock yourself out. but feeling you need to use them is absurd.
this either isn't the game for you, or you need more practice. just put the difficulty on very easy

[Noodlesocks]

I play with some mods that make survival more like New Vegas Hardcore and make levelling more like older games and less of a grind. No mod can fix the bad dialogue/quest structure though.

[Balls]

Originally posted by Noodlesocks:

I play with some mods that make survival more like New Vegas Hardcore and make levelling more like older games and less of a grind. No mod can fix the bad dialogue/quest structure though.

This sounds ideal, what did you install?

[Balls]

Originally posted by goatfish:

i've played it long enough to have a system of getting everything in the game (besides institute power armor paint job) including how to avoid the bugs with emogene cabot and the scribe.
i've used TGM a few times as well as coc qasmoke (a mod i had removed quantum x-01 from spawning, so only way to get it was to already have it). if you want to use console commands to have fun, knock yourself out. but feeling you need to use them is absurd.
this either isn't the game for you, or you need more practice. just put the difficulty on very easy

I don't need to use them, I just find the game to be not as immersive as any of the other fallout games and the story line is... straight up boring so I can't justify putting hours into it getting things done the legit way...

I'm just glad to know others have used the cheat and I'm not the only one

[Balls]

Originally posted by Lady Aeleanor:

Originally posted by Balls:

Has anyone played other Bethesda games or are you all young? Fallout 4 is a disgrace in comparison to all of their great games.

Oh, please. It's the best of the series. Just don't play it, if you think it's so bad. Problem solved.

Best of the series? LMAO... go save another settlement and build something ;)

[Balls]

Originally posted by wtiger27:

I played it for over 3200 hrs, the way it was meant to be played. Mostly. I did use the console to bypass DiMA's dumb puzzle. But no outside source mods. I Like it a lot more than FO3.

I guess I've outgrown the game then. Fallout 3 was new and fresh. Fallout New Vegas is like the cherry on top... Fallout 4's story line seems broken and boring and Fallout 76 is just a joke. I think game devs have regressed over time and stopped making excellence. A friend of mine is porting FO3 to Unreal's engine... shall be worth it

[Balls]

Originally posted by Lady Aeleanor:

Originally posted by Balls:

Has anyone played other Bethesda games or are you all young? Fallout 4 is a disgrace in comparison to all of their great games.

Oh, please. It's the best of the series. Just don't play it, if you think it's so bad. Problem solved.

You've barely played Oblivion but live in Skyrim... and probably never played Morrowind with mods.
You've barely played New Vegas but live in 4.

I guess if I said The Sims 3 is better than 4 you'd be against that too... I can see there is a generational gap here. I waited years to play Fallout 4 because I was too poor to afford a computer to run it and I didn't want to play it with crappy graphics. It didn't live up to the rest of them. I'm still going to play it again, but it will never draw me in.

[coffeemm8]

Originally posted by Balls:

Has anyone played other Bethesda games or are you all young? Fallout 4 is a disgrace in comparison to all of their great games.

Personally I think Fallout 4 is a huge improvement over 3.

And I played a ton of FO3 back when it came out

[Iron Knights]

Another "FO4 bad" Troll...
Not only is Fallout 4 best in the series, we are playing it 8yrs. past release date and it surpasses most of the junky First Person Shooters put out To Date, including Cyberpunk 2077.
I didn't know any console commands until After I finished my first run and I never used god mode for the toughest of fights (although I guzzled plenty of drugs).
Fallout 4 is very playable past end of story. Also 5min. in-game time is an hour or two.