Why do we have no legs?

[Klumpatsch]

I am one of the people who actually enjoy the graphics of Fallout 4 (and wonder since when everyone became so obsessed about HD-graphics, especially those who call themselves "roleplayers"), but I don't understand one thing. Why does the character still have no legs in first person view? Is there a special reason why they didn't implant it? I mean, it can't be too hard, since even cheap indie horror games have this feature now.

[McKnuckles]

I have no idea. Most games with a first person view don't show their legs. It's a extremely rare thing when you can find one that does though.

[peteed1]

You can't look far enough south for the legs to be in view in first person afaik.

[Saph]

Because it's not important? It's hardly a dealbreaker anyway, what little time I spend in third person is used to fix the invisible pipboy bug. I couldn't care less about looking at parts of my character model when there's enemies that need a face full of plasma.

[Hex]

I'm more annoyed about the movement animations in general. Females still move like they have a yardstick up their ass and if you use a 1h melee it just uses the male animation -.-

Tomb Raider showed how to do female movement animations right yet apparently no one got the memo.

[Klumpatsch]

Originally posted by McKnuckles:

Most games with a first person view don't show their legs

I don't play many FPS, but I think you're right, even such high-praised games like COD have no legs...

Originally posted by Peteed1:

You can't look far enough south for the legs to be in view in first person afaik.

Nah, from this angle you should be able to see a part of your upper body and at least your thighs.

Originally posted by The Great Papyrus:

Because it's not important?

Actually it's pretty important... without this feature you feel like a floating ghost. Not really realistic or helpful for immersion.

[McKnuckles]

Originally posted by приzрак:

Originally posted by McKnuckles:

Most games with a first person view don't show their legs

I don't play many FPS, but I think you're right, even such high-praised games like COD have no legs...

Originally posted by Peteed1:

You can't look far enough south for the legs to be in view in first person afaik.

Nah, from this angle you should be able to see a part of your upper body and at least your thighs.

Originally posted by The Great Papyrus:

Because it's not important?

Actually it's pretty important... without this feature you feel like a floating ghost. Not really realistic or helpful for immersion.

Not just fps games, any game that has an option for a first person view most likey won't have the option to view your legs (oblivion, skyrim, etc).

[Tizferatu]

Originally posted by приzрак:

Originally posted by McKnuckles:

Most games with a first person view don't show their legs

I don't play many FPS, but I think you're right, even such high-praised games like COD have no legs...

Originally posted by Peteed1:

You can't look far enough south for the legs to be in view in first person afaik.

Nah, from this angle you should be able to see a part of your upper body and at least your thighs.

Originally posted by The Great Papyrus:

Because it's not important?

Actually it's pretty important... without this feature you feel like a floating ghost. Not really realistic or helpful for immersion.

Play in third person.Boom. Legs.

[󠀡󠀡]

wait for the enhanced camera mod

[McKnuckles]

Originally posted by tizuby:

Originally posted by приzрак:

I don't play many FPS, but I think you're right, even such high-praised games like COD have no legs...


Nah, from this angle you should be able to see a part of your upper body and at least your thighs.


Actually it's pretty important... without this feature you feel like a floating ghost. Not really realistic or helpful for immersion.

Play in third person.Boom. Legs.

The thing is though it seems like most of the bethesda games are better when played in first person (for me at least).

[Raz]

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[Tizferatu]

Originally posted by McKnuckles:

Originally posted by tizuby:

Play in third person.Boom. Legs.

The thing is though it seems like most of the bethesda games are better when played in first person (for me at least).

nahhh. The only thing that's better is aiming.

I play 90% third person, only going into first for longer range shooting and occaisionally to search a room for junk and have no problems.

[Klumpatsch]

Originally posted by tizuby:

Play in third person.Boom. Legs.

That's like saying "if you don't like how dirty my flat is, just turn off the light". Not very helpful. Magically watching myself from behind is even more unrealistic and bad for immersion. Also how am I supposed to aim like that?

[Tizferatu]

Originally posted by приzрак:

Originally posted by tizuby:

Play in third person.Boom. Legs.

That's like saying "if you don't like how dirty my flat is, just turn off the light". Not very helpful. Magically watching myself from behind is even more unrealistic and bad for immersion. Also how am I supposed to aim like that?

Well there are technical limitations for why there are no legs in fps, so you don't have much alternative.

In a FPS mode the camera has to be stopped from flipping over completely (otherwise bad things happen, people vomit, etc...). Also in FPS mode the camera is a bit forward of the body (if they even bother to implement a body-behind-the-camera, which I don't think Bethesda did).

Add those two together, and you don't have feet because you can't look down and behind you (otherwise the camera would spaz out).

[McKnuckles]

Originally posted by tizuby:

Originally posted by приzрак:

That's like saying "if you don't like how dirty my flat is, just turn off the light". Not very helpful. Magically watching myself from behind is even more unrealistic and bad for immersion. Also how am I supposed to aim like that?

Well there are technical limitations for why there are no legs in fps, so you don't have much alternative.

In a FPS mode the camera has to be stopped from flipping over completely (otherwise bad things happen, people vomit, etc...). Also in FPS mode the camera is a bit forward of the body (if they even bother to implement a body-behind-the-camera, which I don't think Bethesda did).

Add those two together, and you don't have feet because you can't look down and behind you (otherwise the camera would spaz out).

Why look behind us? Unless you are using the oculus rift, in most games that allow you to see you feet, you can only really see some of the front of your body and thats it.

[Tizferatu]

Originally posted by McKnuckles:

Originally posted by tizuby:

Well there are technical limitations for why there are no legs in fps, so you don't have much alternative.

In a FPS mode the camera has to be stopped from flipping over completely (otherwise bad things happen, people vomit, etc...). Also in FPS mode the camera is a bit forward of the body (if they even bother to implement a body-behind-the-camera, which I don't think Bethesda did).

Add those two together, and you don't have feet because you can't look down and behind you (otherwise the camera would spaz out).

Why look behind us? Unless you are using the oculus rift, in most games that allow you to see you feet, you can only really see some of the front of your body and thats it.

Because of where they positioned the camera looking straight down wouldn't let you see feet, you'd have to go further negative than -90 and that causes bad things to happen with cameras.

Anyway, if you dislike I suggest you take up modeling and make a mod that moves the camera back and adds more model to 1st person.