Is T-60 better than T-51?

[La Flame]

I have been looking online for a definate answer, I think T-60 is better becuase it has a higher number but im not totally sure. Wiki just give you the history behind the armor not the stats.

[fluxtorrent]

Its a little better, about the same difference as the t51 over the t45

[Yhwach]

Originally posted by Bowl Cut Boi (ArtClub Jo-e):

I have been looking online for a definate answer, I think T-60 is better becuase it has a higher number but im not totally sure. Wiki just give you the history behind the armor not the stats.

If they have a higher base number, then they have better defence.

[TKOdarkshadow]

Yeah, it's better.

[Khloros]

historicly bethesda cant read their own lore, and forgot that T60 never existed until this game, yet they say it was made prewar, and infact, in one of the slides they say that the T60 was the most advanced prewar armor, and then in another slide they say the t51 was the most advanced.

Now technicly speaking the T60 is the most advanced armor excliding the x01.

My current head cannon is this, t51 was the last pre war power armor model created, as it was showcased in alaska per the lore.

I say that the t60 was create post war by the BoS after they found the t51 gear in the armory by the lone warnderer, and they took the tech from the T51, and applied it to their already massivly stock piled T45 power armor, making the T60. Thats just my head conon to the whole thing.

[Big Boom Boom]

Originally posted by HCG_BackSpaceHacker:

historicly bethesda cant read their own lore, and forgot that T60 never existed until this game, yet they say it was made prewar, and infact, in one of the slides they say that the T60 was the most advanced prewar armor, and then in another slide they say the t51 was the most advanced.

T-60 is Bethesda creation in FO3 and they claimed it was in used in Anchorage as prototype not mass produced.

[Khloros]

Originally posted by Big Boom Boom:

Originally posted by HCG_BackSpaceHacker:

historicly bethesda cant read their own lore, and forgot that T60 never existed until this game, yet they say it was made prewar, and infact, in one of the slides they say that the T60 was the most advanced prewar armor, and then in another slide they say the t51 was the most advanced.

T-60 is Bethesda creation in FO3 and they claimed it was in used in Anchorage as prototype not mass produced.

the t60 never existed until fallout 4, it was deployed after anchorage, but even still it does not make sense because the t51 was just rolled out. Bethesda just hamfisted it into the game. Then the BoS got full t60 for reasons, with out any real explination.

And it was even said it was deployed just before the great war, which again makes no senese why would you deploy and produce the t51, then turn right around, in less then a year and roll out the t60 when its a bloody resource war. Then still it could not just be a prototype not massproduced, because all of the BoS on the east coast have it now.

Bethesda just does not remember their own lore, and hamfists stuff in for reasons.


We even see it used in the field just before you go into the vault. So its deployed across the country.

It was not a prototype not mass produced, we see that it was mass produced even though the t51 just hit the field.

[Khloros]

Here is it in alaska

http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/3/3e/FO4IntroScene4.png/revision/latest?cb=20151107124520

and here in boston

http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/5/59/PreWarPowerArmor.png/revision/latest?cb=20150607222304

it was deployed nation wide along side the T51, which why?! why not just make it all T60.

[Xero]

Originally posted by HCG_BackSpaceHacker:

historicly bethesda cant read their own lore, and forgot that T60 never existed until this game, yet they say it was made prewar, and infact, in one of the slides they say that the T60 was the most advanced prewar armor, and then in another slide they say the t51 was the most advanced.

Now technicly speaking the T60 is the most advanced armor excliding the x01.

My current head cannon is this, t51 was the last pre war power armor model created, as it was showcased in alaska per the lore.

I say that the t60 was create post war by the BoS after they found the t51 gear in the armory by the lone warnderer, and they took the tech from the T51, and applied it to their already massivly stock piled T45 power armor, making the T60. Thats just my head conon to the whole thing.

Your head canon is wrong... The BoS had access to T-51 back on the west coast.

[Khloros]

Originally posted by Xero:

Originally posted by HCG_BackSpaceHacker:

historicly bethesda cant read their own lore, and forgot that T60 never existed until this game, yet they say it was made prewar, and infact, in one of the slides they say that the T60 was the most advanced prewar armor, and then in another slide they say the t51 was the most advanced.

Now technicly speaking the T60 is the most advanced armor excliding the x01.

My current head cannon is this, t51 was the last pre war power armor model created, as it was showcased in alaska per the lore.

I say that the t60 was create post war by the BoS after they found the t51 gear in the armory by the lone warnderer, and they took the tech from the T51, and applied it to their already massivly stock piled T45 power armor, making the T60. Thats just my head conon to the whole thing.

Your head canon is wrong... The BoS had access to T-51 back on the west coast.

Yeah but the BoS here, east coat, diffrent tech, we have seen this with the midwest BoS chapters, their power armor is diffrent.

That or they found a stock pile of undeplaoyed T60 power armor at adams airforce base, after the layed claim to it.

Either way, there is no explination as to how the BoS on the east coat got t60 other then bethesda cant remember their own lore.


This would not be the first time, bethesda messed up their own lore for reasons, like vertibirds.

[ImHelping]

If you don't trust the wikis, it's as easy as looking at the numbers previews at an armor crafting station.

Just have T-51 or T-60 armor parts in your personal inventory or on the armor in question. Then take a look at the numbers mods would give them. You don't need the crafting skills to see that.

Hint: the T-60 is gonna be better, unless you are comparing an upgraded T-51 part to a deftault T-60 part.

While on the subject of power armor. Paint jobs that increase special stats, need EVERY PART to have the same paint job. Things like lead or titanium however, apply bonuses to single parts just fine.

Military paint gives +6 Strength, same as Brotherhood of steel paint (but Military paint is allowed to be put on X-01 armor).

[Khloros]

Originally posted by I'm Helping!:

If you don't trust the wikis, it's as easy as looking at the numbers previews at an armor crafting station.

Just have T-51 or T-60 armor parts in your personal inventory or on the armor in question. Then take a look at the numbers mods would give them. You don't need the crafting skills to see that.

Hint: the T-60 is gonna be better, unless you are comparing an upgraded T-51 part to a deftault T-60 part.

While on the subject of power armor. Paint jobs that increase special stats, need EVERY PART to have the same paint job. Things like lead or titanium however, apply bonuses to single parts just fine.

Military paint gives +6 Strength, same as Brotherhood of steel paint (but Military paint is allowed to be put on X-01 armor).

This, also if you want to love life, put explosive coating on the legs, and then put whatever else on the other parts, like seriously, the explosive coating on the legs help so much.

[Xero]

Originally posted by HCG_BackSpaceHacker:

Originally posted by Xero:

Your head canon is wrong... The BoS had access to T-51 back on the west coast.

Yeah but the BoS here, east coat, diffrent tech, we have seen this with the midwest BoS chapters, their power armor is diffrent.

That or they found a stock pile of undeplaoyed T60 power armor at adams airforce base, after the layed claim to it.

Either way, there is no explination as to how the BoS on the east coat got t60 other then bethesda cant remember their own lore.


This would not be the first time, bethesda messed up their own lore for reasons, like vertibirds.

Granted their are equally serious issues other than the T-60 coming into existance, such as the fact that Power Armor no longer lasting as long as it used to. And i don't mean the degredation, i mean the power issue.

[BLÀde]

Originally posted by I'm Helping!:

While on the subject of power armor. Paint jobs that increase special stats, need EVERY PART to have the same paint job. Things like lead or titanium however, apply bonuses to single parts just fine.

.

what about explosive protection damage?

[Khloros]

Originally posted by Xero:

Originally posted by HCG_BackSpaceHacker:

Yeah but the BoS here, east coat, diffrent tech, we have seen this with the midwest BoS chapters, their power armor is diffrent.

That or they found a stock pile of undeplaoyed T60 power armor at adams airforce base, after the layed claim to it.

Either way, there is no explination as to how the BoS on the east coat got t60 other then bethesda cant remember their own lore.


This would not be the first time, bethesda messed up their own lore for reasons, like vertibirds.

Granted their are equally serious issues other than the T-60 coming into existance, such as the fact that Power Armor no longer lasting as long as it used to. And i don't mean the degredation, i mean the power issue.

agree, technicly the power armors are self sustaining for 200 years.

My head canon for needing the fusion cores are this. They got hit by EMPs, so that could have mucked up the electronic for the reactor in the suit, and because of that, you need to use the fusion cores to sort of jump start them, but since they too got hit by emps they only have a small trickle charge on them.

Factions like the BoS are able to repair their suit and have access to undamage fusion cores, again my head conon is because they found them stock piled at adams air force base with the T60s which is why they can use them indefinitly.

[Arachnade]

Originally posted by Bowl Cut Boi (ArtClub Jo-e):

I have been looking online for a definate answer, I think T-60 is better becuase it has a higher number but im not totally sure. Wiki just give you the history behind the armor not the stats.

yes and if you have armorer and the resources make it T-60F armor Almost Godly