Anyone else think they should give Obsidian another go?

[Lowbudgetname]

I found NV to be so much more fun,(not nessesarily better) than 3. I feel they could do a lot with the new set up,opinions?

[McKnuckles]

引用自 Evil Sage：

引用自 DEAD The Real Nancy Boy：

Maybe after they're finished with the next TES Bethesda can move on to using a real engine for the next Fallout.

The creation engine is the reason modding is so relatively easy.

Which is based on older game engine that has issues that they will eventually have to fix if they want their games to stop always being filled with the same general bugs.

[DA REEL NANCY BOI]

引用自 Evil Sage：

引用自 DEAD The Real Nancy Boy：

Maybe after they're finished with the next TES Bethesda can move on to using a real engine for the next Fallout.


Funny you mention this as myHL3 calendar is right below my FO4 calendar.
One, I just never bothered to take down as a testament to the time I waited.
The other says "Tl;DR" and will probably never be taken down until I die or move. XD

Maybe it will be the omen to the end of times, or the great colapse O_O

Yeah, I made that joke once. Society will collapse hours before the announcement of HL3's imminent release. Good times, good times.

Also in reply to your previous statement, Creation Engine = modified gamebryo. It's also the reason load times are so bad in this game even on hardcore rigs.

[Legion]

引用自 †Cross†：

引用自 prometheus.mh：

That's because they had like, 9 months to crank it out. And Gamebryo is an extremely glitchy engine to work with. FONV has about 4x as many weapons as FO3 OR FO4.

With or with out the DLC? If its with out DLC I would like to see a list of all the weapons in both base games.

A FULL list? That will be quite a wall of text. However, challenge accepted:

Keep in mind I'm not listing any Unique weapons since they are just stat-boosted regular guns. also, DLC guns have an asterisk. Remember also that FONV doesn't have Big Guns, which are redistributed amongst Guns, Energy Weapons, and Explosives.

FO3: 71 weapons total

Small Guns - 17 - .32 pistol, 10mm pistol, Chinese pistol, Dart gun, .44 Magnum, Assault rifle, Infiltrator*, BB gun, Chinese AR, Hunting rifle, Lever-action rifle*, Railway rifle, Sniper rifle, Combat shotgun, Double-barrel shotgun*, Sawed-off shotgun, 10mm SMG

Big Guns - 8 - Drone cannon*, Flamer, Gatling Laser, Heavy Incinerator*, Minigun, Rock-it-Launcher, Fat Man, Missile launcher

Energy Weapons - 12 - Alien Atomizer*, Alien blaster, Laser pistol, Mesmetron, Microwave emitter*, Plasma pistol, Alien disintegrator*, Gauss rifle*, Laser rifle, Plasma rifle, Tesla cannon*, Tri-beam laser rifle*

Explosives - 10 - Bottlecap mine, Cryo mine*, Frag mine, Plasma mine, Pulse mine, Cryo grenade*, Frag grenade, Nuka grenade, Plasma grenade, Pulse grenade

Melee - 20 - Auto axe*, Axe*, Chinese officer sword, Combat knife, Knife, Ripper, Samurai sword*, Shishkebab, Shovel*, Switchblade, Baseball bat, Lead pipe, Nail board, Police baton, Pool cue, Rolling pin, Shock baton*, Sledgehammer, Super Sledge, Tire Iron

Unarmed - 4 - Brass knuckles, Deathclaw gauntlet, Power fist, Spiked knuckles

FONV: 162

Guns - 41 - .357 magnum, .44 magnum, .45 auto pistol*, 5.56mm pistol*, 9mm pistol, 10mm pistol, 12.7mm pistol, hunting revolver, ranger sequoia (no, it's not unique, they randomly drop) police pistol*, silenced .22 pistol, anti-materiel rifle, assault carbine, automatic rifle*, battle rifle*, BB gun, brush gun, cowboy repeater, hunting rifle, light machine gun, Bozar*, marksman carbine, service rifle, sniper rifle, trail carbine, varmint rifle, .45 auto SMG*, 9mm SMG, 10mm SMG, 12.7mm SMG, H&H Tools nail gun*, silenced .22 smg, caravan shotgun, hunting shotgun, lever-action shotgun, riot shotgun, sawed-off shotgun, single shotgun, K9000 cyberdog gun, minigun, shoulder-mounted machine gun*

Energy weapons - 25 - alien blaster, euclid's C-finder, flare gun, laser pistol, plasma defender, plasma pistol, pulse gun, recharger pistol, sonic emitter, gauss rifle, holorifle*, LAER*, laser RCW, laser rifle, multiplas rifle, plasma rifle, recharger rifle, tri-beam laser rifle, arc welder*, flamer, gatling laser, heavy incinerator, incinerator, plasma caster, tesla cannon

Explosive - 33 - 25mm grenade APW*, fat man, grenade machine gun, grenade launcher, grenade rifle, missile launcher, red glare*, dynamite, long-fuse dynamite, fire bomb*, flash bang*, frag grenade, holy frag grenade, incendiary grenade, MFC grenade*, nuka grenade*, plasma grenade, pulse grenade, tin grenade*, bottlecap mine, C-4 plastic explosive, demolition charge*, detonator, fat mine*, frag mine, gas bomb*, MFC cluster*, plasma mine, powder charge, pulse mine, satchel charge*, time bomb, high-yield time bomb*

Melee - 44 - bowie knife*, bumper sword, blade of the west*, chainsaw, cleaver, combat knife, cosmic knife*, super-heated cosmic knife*, fire axe, hatchet, katana*, knife, knife spear*, machete, machete gladius, proton axe*, protonic inversal axe*, ripper, shishkebab, straight razor, switch blade, thermic lance, 9 iron, baseball bat*, cattle prod, dress cane, lead pipe, nail board, pool cue, police baton, rebar club, rolling pin, shovel, sledgehammer, super sledge, tire iron, war club*, proton throwing axe*, protonic inversal throwing axe*, throwing knife, throwing hatchet, throwing knife spear*, throwing spear, tomahawk*

Unarmed - 19 - ballistic fist, bear trap fist*, bladed gauntlet, boxing gloves, boxing tape, brass knuckles, displacer glove, dog tag fist, industrial hand*, mantis gauntlet*, power fist, saturnite fist*, super-heated saturnite fist*, scientist glove, corrosive glove, sterilizer glove, spiked knuckles, yao-guai gauntlet, zap glove

_______________________

Okay so I lied a bit, it's closer to 2.3x as many weapons. If we were to count the fact that 90% of the FO3 unique weapons don't have a unique model, while all the uniques from FONV do, the disparity is even wider.

[†Cross†]

引用自 prometheus.mh：

引用自 †Cross†：

With or with out the DLC? If its with out DLC I would like to see a list of all the weapons in both base games.

A FULL list? That will be quite a wall of text. However, challenge accepted:

Keep in mind I'm not listing any Unique weapons since they are just stat-boosted regular guns. also, DLC guns have an asterisk. Remember also that FONV doesn't have Big Guns, which are redistributed amongst Guns, Energy Weapons, and Explosives.

FO3: 71 weapons total

Small Guns - 17 - .32 pistol, 10mm pistol, Chinese pistol, Dart gun, .44 Magnum, Assault rifle, Infiltrator*, BB gun, Chinese AR, Hunting rifle, Lever-action rifle*, Railway rifle, Sniper rifle, Combat shotgun, Double-barrel shotgun*, Sawed-off shotgun, 10mm SMG

Big Guns - 8 - Drone cannon*, Flamer, Gatling Laser, Heavy Incinerator*, Minigun, Rock-it-Launcher, Fat Man, Missile launcher

Energy Weapons - 12 - Alien Atomizer*, Alien blaster, Laser pistol, Mesmetron, Microwave emitter*, Plasma pistol, Alien disintegrator*, Gauss rifle*, Laser rifle, Plasma rifle, Tesla cannon*, Tri-beam laser rifle*

Explosives - 10 - Bottlecap mine, Cryo mine*, Frag mine, Plasma mine, Pulse mine, Cryo grenade*, Frag grenade, Nuka grenade, Plasma grenade, Pulse grenade

Melee - 20 - Auto axe*, Axe*, Chinese officer sword, Combat knife, Knife, Ripper, Samurai sword*, Shishkebab, Shovel*, Switchblade, Baseball bat, Lead pipe, Nail board, Police baton, Pool cue, Rolling pin, Shock baton*, Sledgehammer, Super Sledge, Tire Iron

Unarmed - 4 - Brass knuckles, Deathclaw gauntlet, Power fist, Spiked knuckles

FONV: 162

Guns - 41 - .357 magnum, .44 magnum, .45 auto pistol*, 5.56mm pistol*, 9mm pistol, 10mm pistol, 12.7mm pistol, hunting revolver, ranger sequoia (no, it's not unique, they randomly drop) police pistol*, silenced .22 pistol, anti-materiel rifle, assault carbine, automatic rifle*, battle rifle*, BB gun, brush gun, cowboy repeater, hunting rifle, light machine gun, Bozar*, marksman carbine, service rifle, sniper rifle, trail carbine, varmint rifle, .45 auto SMG*, 9mm SMG, 10mm SMG, 12.7mm SMG, H&H Tools nail gun*, silenced .22 smg, caravan shotgun, hunting shotgun, lever-action shotgun, riot shotgun, sawed-off shotgun, single shotgun, K9000 cyberdog gun, minigun, shoulder-mounted machine gun*

Energy weapons - 25 - alien blaster, euclid's C-finder, flare gun, laser pistol, plasma defender, plasma pistol, pulse gun, recharger pistol, sonic emitter, gauss rifle, holorifle*, LAER*, laser RCW, laser rifle, multiplas rifle, plasma rifle, recharger rifle, tri-beam laser rifle, arc welder*, flamer, gatling laser, heavy incinerator, incinerator, plasma caster, tesla cannon

Explosive - 33 - 25mm grenade APW*, fat man, grenade machine gun, grenade launcher, grenade rifle, missile launcher, red glare*, dynamite, long-fuse dynamite, fire bomb*, flash bang*, frag grenade, holy frag grenade, incendiary grenade, MFC grenade*, nuka grenade*, plasma grenade, pulse grenade, tin grenade*, bottlecap mine, C-4 plastic explosive, demolition charge*, detonator, fat mine*, frag mine, gas bomb*, MFC cluster*, plasma mine, powder charge, pulse mine, satchel charge*, time bomb, high-yield time bomb*

Melee - 44 - bowie knife*, bumper sword, blade of the west*, chainsaw, cleaver, combat knife, cosmic knife*, super-heated cosmic knife*, fire axe, hatchet, katana*, knife, knife spear*, machete, machete gladius, proton axe*, protonic inversal axe*, ripper, shishkebab, straight razor, switch blade, thermic lance, 9 iron, baseball bat*, cattle prod, dress cane, lead pipe, nail board, pool cue, police baton, rebar club, rolling pin, shovel, sledgehammer, super sledge, tire iron, war club*, proton throwing axe*, protonic inversal throwing axe*, throwing knife, throwing hatchet, throwing knife spear*, throwing spear, tomahawk*

Unarmed - 19 - ballistic fist, bear trap fist*, bladed gauntlet, boxing gloves, boxing tape, brass knuckles, displacer glove, dog tag fist, industrial hand*, mantis gauntlet*, power fist, saturnite fist*, super-heated saturnite fist*, scientist glove, corrosive glove, sterilizer glove, spiked knuckles, yao-guai gauntlet, zap glove

_______________________

Okay so I lied a bit, it's closer to 2.3x as many weapons. If we were to count the fact that 90% of the FO3 unique weapons don't have a unique model, while all the uniques from FONV do, the disparity is even wider.

That is alot of weapons, just over all lol. After the DLC is out for FO4 we will see where it stands.

I really did not think you would list them, I'm happy I was wrong.

[Legion]

We aim to please.

[nomadpad]

引用自 prometheus.mh：

引用自 †Cross†：

With or with out the DLC? If its with out DLC I would like to see a list of all the weapons in both base games.

A FULL list? That will be quite a wall of text. However, challenge accepted:

Keep in mind I'm not listing any Unique weapons since they are just stat-boosted regular guns. also, DLC guns have an asterisk. Remember also that FONV doesn't have Big Guns, which are redistributed amongst Guns, Energy Weapons, and Explosives.

FO3: 71 weapons total

Small Guns - 17 - .32 pistol, 10mm pistol, Chinese pistol, Dart gun, .44 Magnum, Assault rifle, Infiltrator*, BB gun, Chinese AR, Hunting rifle, Lever-action rifle*, Railway rifle, Sniper rifle, Combat shotgun, Double-barrel shotgun*, Sawed-off shotgun, 10mm SMG

Big Guns - 8 - Drone cannon*, Flamer, Gatling Laser, Heavy Incinerator*, Minigun, Rock-it-Launcher, Fat Man, Missile launcher

Energy Weapons - 12 - Alien Atomizer*, Alien blaster, Laser pistol, Mesmetron, Microwave emitter*, Plasma pistol, Alien disintegrator*, Gauss rifle*, Laser rifle, Plasma rifle, Tesla cannon*, Tri-beam laser rifle*

Explosives - 10 - Bottlecap mine, Cryo mine*, Frag mine, Plasma mine, Pulse mine, Cryo grenade*, Frag grenade, Nuka grenade, Plasma grenade, Pulse grenade

Melee - 20 - Auto axe*, Axe*, Chinese officer sword, Combat knife, Knife, Ripper, Samurai sword*, Shishkebab, Shovel*, Switchblade, Baseball bat, Lead pipe, Nail board, Police baton, Pool cue, Rolling pin, Shock baton*, Sledgehammer, Super Sledge, Tire Iron

Unarmed - 4 - Brass knuckles, Deathclaw gauntlet, Power fist, Spiked knuckles

FONV: 162

Guns - 41 - .357 magnum, .44 magnum, .45 auto pistol*, 5.56mm pistol*, 9mm pistol, 10mm pistol, 12.7mm pistol, hunting revolver, ranger sequoia (no, it's not unique, they randomly drop) police pistol*, silenced .22 pistol, anti-materiel rifle, assault carbine, automatic rifle*, battle rifle*, BB gun, brush gun, cowboy repeater, hunting rifle, light machine gun, Bozar*, marksman carbine, service rifle, sniper rifle, trail carbine, varmint rifle, .45 auto SMG*, 9mm SMG, 10mm SMG, 12.7mm SMG, H&H Tools nail gun*, silenced .22 smg, caravan shotgun, hunting shotgun, lever-action shotgun, riot shotgun, sawed-off shotgun, single shotgun, K9000 cyberdog gun, minigun, shoulder-mounted machine gun*

Energy weapons - 25 - alien blaster, euclid's C-finder, flare gun, laser pistol, plasma defender, plasma pistol, pulse gun, recharger pistol, sonic emitter, gauss rifle, holorifle*, LAER*, laser RCW, laser rifle, multiplas rifle, plasma rifle, recharger rifle, tri-beam laser rifle, arc welder*, flamer, gatling laser, heavy incinerator, incinerator, plasma caster, tesla cannon

Explosive - 33 - 25mm grenade APW*, fat man, grenade machine gun, grenade launcher, grenade rifle, missile launcher, red glare*, dynamite, long-fuse dynamite, fire bomb*, flash bang*, frag grenade, holy frag grenade, incendiary grenade, MFC grenade*, nuka grenade*, plasma grenade, pulse grenade, tin grenade*, bottlecap mine, C-4 plastic explosive, demolition charge*, detonator, fat mine*, frag mine, gas bomb*, MFC cluster*, plasma mine, powder charge, pulse mine, satchel charge*, time bomb, high-yield time bomb*

Melee - 44 - bowie knife*, bumper sword, blade of the west*, chainsaw, cleaver, combat knife, cosmic knife*, super-heated cosmic knife*, fire axe, hatchet, katana*, knife, knife spear*, machete, machete gladius, proton axe*, protonic inversal axe*, ripper, shishkebab, straight razor, switch blade, thermic lance, 9 iron, baseball bat*, cattle prod, dress cane, lead pipe, nail board, pool cue, police baton, rebar club, rolling pin, shovel, sledgehammer, super sledge, tire iron, war club*, proton throwing axe*, protonic inversal throwing axe*, throwing knife, throwing hatchet, throwing knife spear*, throwing spear, tomahawk*

Unarmed - 19 - ballistic fist, bear trap fist*, bladed gauntlet, boxing gloves, boxing tape, brass knuckles, displacer glove, dog tag fist, industrial hand*, mantis gauntlet*, power fist, saturnite fist*, super-heated saturnite fist*, scientist glove, corrosive glove, sterilizer glove, spiked knuckles, yao-guai gauntlet, zap glove

_______________________

Okay so I lied a bit, it's closer to 2.3x as many weapons. If we were to count the fact that 90% of the FO3 unique weapons don't have a unique model, while all the uniques from FONV do, the disparity is even wider.

indeed more weapons, yet less combat.....

[Zeph]

Fallout 1 and 2 don't fit in this type of game. If they are ever revisited, a remaster is all they need. Don't change anything, just update the graphics and fix bugs. Maybe clean up the talking heads. Thats it.

[Vibby]

引用自 Kamikaze Cockatiel：

引用自 ers101284：

After playing 3, NV, and 4.....No.

You are wrong

An opinion can't be wrong if it is a subjective topic.