Are Melee/Unarmed builds redundant?

[C2HGaming]

In the other Fallout games, I can see this being pretty good. You're weapons all had duration...they could break and if that happened you had to switch to something else, if you had no other melee weapons BOOM switch to you're fists (unarmed weapons).
However in Fallout 4 they got rid of weapon duration so...are Melee/Unarmed builds redundant now?

[Foxador]

They're fun IMO. They also have a high chance of knocking the weapon out of enemies hand which makes them useless and some of their kill animations are fun to watch. You can make tons of money being unarmed / melee since you can sell all the ammo you find.

The only real down side is that unarmed only has 4 weapons but melee has a lot. With the Blitz perk you can melee a enemy clear across the room so that's good

[Tenshin51]

What your talking about??? Redundant melee saves ammo in early game. Like its freaking OP w/ power armor and chems against mireluk.
Mireluk could soak up alot of damage w/ range weapons in the game until you know how to defeat them by shooting there limbs

[Foxador]

Автор сообщения: Tenshin51

Like its freaking OP w/ power armor and chems against mireluk.

Ehhh only if you're melee not unarmed. Power armor actually makes unarmed worse

[Xander Tyrann]

Fun is redundant in fallout 4?

[C2HGaming]

Автор сообщения: Tenshin51

What your talking about??? Redundant melee saves ammo in early game. Like its freaking OP w/ power armor and chems against mireluk.
Mireluk could soak up alot of damage w/ range weapons in the game until you know how to defeat them by shooting there limbs

I mean you never have to switch between one or the other. Find yourself a nice heavy super sludge, upgrade the hell outta of it and your set! You never have to switch to an unarmed weapon cause your melee weapon never breaks.

[C2HGaming]

Автор сообщения: Xander Tyrann

Fun is redundant in fallout 4?

Sigh I should have been more clear about what I mean't... apologies.

[Tenshin51]

What??? Dude you can ugrade your power armor w/ Tesla coil that deals energy damage automatically. And you can also upgrade your power armor arms that deals w/ unarmed damage. Power Armor is a perfect armor for a melee character adding w/ chems that boost damage and def. Hell your a walking killing machine.

Lower lvl Ghoul and raider cannot even touch you w/ tesla coil upgrade. Just walk at them they will just die w/ energy damage.

[Foxador]

Автор сообщения: Tenshin51

What??? Dude you can ugrade your power armor w/ Tesla coil that deals energy damage automatically. And you can also upgrade your power armor arms that deals w/ unarmed damage. Power Armor is a perfect armor for a melee character adding w/ chems that boost damage and def. Hell your a walking killing machine.

Lower lvl Ghoul and raider cannot even touch you w/ tesla coil upgrade. Just walk at them they will just die w/ energy damage.

There is a difference between UNARMED and MELEE. Power Armor makes MELEE better but makes UNARMED weaker. Unarmed weapons can get up to a base damage of 120+ but when you're in a suit of power armor you cannot use them which means that you only do about 30 damage a hit even with the power armor suit upgraded.

MELEE on the other hide, like swords, get a huge boost from Power armor because of those suit buffs though

[Michael]

Автор сообщения: Cody2Hottie

Автор сообщения: Xander Tyrann

Fun is redundant in fallout 4?

Sigh I should have been more clear about what I mean't... apologies.

It is not your fault that no one seems to know what redundant means.

[Tenshin51]

Автор сообщения: Cody2Hottie

I mean you never have to switch between one or the other. Find yourself a nice heavy super sludge, upgrade the hell outta of it and your set! You never have to switch to an unarmed weapon cause your melee weapon never breaks.

Lol it depends on situation. You still need fast, mid and slow melee weapons. Like ghouls there not really deadly but there radiation damage is a pain in the ass and there fast could easily sorround you so best choice dealing w/ them will be fast and medium melee weapon.

[C2HGaming]

Автор сообщения: Tenshin51

Автор сообщения: Cody2Hottie

I mean you never have to switch between one or the other. Find yourself a nice heavy super sludge, upgrade the hell outta of it and your set! You never have to switch to an unarmed weapon cause your melee weapon never breaks.

Lol it depends on situation. You still need fast, mid and slow melee weapons. Like ghouls there not really deadly but there radiation damage is a pain in the ass and there fast could easily sorround you so best choice dealing w/ them will be fast and medium melee weapon.

Alright then I beginning to understand now. So lets say I'm fighting Raiders or Super Mutants, slowish so I can easily just bring out my pal "Problem Solver" (My super sledge name xD) and take them out easy. However if I'm fighting a group of reaver ghouls, I'll need something fast to take them out....like my fists ;)

Am I correct? (Keep in mind, my fists are covered in my power armor) xD

[Foxador]

Автор сообщения: Cody2Hottie

Автор сообщения: Tenshin51

Lol it depends on situation. You still need fast, mid and slow melee weapons. Like ghouls there not really deadly but there radiation damage is a pain in the ass and there fast could easily sorround you so best choice dealing w/ them will be fast and medium melee weapon.

Alright then I beginning to understand now. So lets say I'm fighting Raiders or Super Mutants, slowish so I can easily just bring out my pal "Problem Solver" (My super sledge name xD) and take them out easy. However if I'm fighting a group of reaver ghouls, I'll need something fast to take them out....like my fists ;)

Am I correct? (Keep in mind, my fists are covered in my power armor) xD

If you're in power armor then smacking them with power armor fists would just tickle them. As I've mentioned several times unarmed damage in power armor is terrible. Yes you can increase it's damage but it'll always be super low per hit, like 30ish a hit. If you're going to stay in power armor just use melee but you can always switch the weapon to a faster melee weapon like a sword or the ripper

[C2HGaming]

Автор сообщения: Foxador

Автор сообщения: Cody2Hottie

Alright then I beginning to understand now. So lets say I'm fighting Raiders or Super Mutants, slowish so I can easily just bring out my pal "Problem Solver" (My super sledge name xD) and take them out easy. However if I'm fighting a group of reaver ghouls, I'll need something fast to take them out....like my fists ;)

Am I correct? (Keep in mind, my fists are covered in my power armor) xD

If you're in power armor then smacking them with power armor fists would just tickle them. As I've mentioned several times unarmed damage in power armor is terrible. Yes you can increase it's damage but it'll always be super low per hit, like 30ish a hit. If you're going to stay in power armor just use melee but you can always switch the weapon to a faster melee weapon like a sword or the ripper

I actually didn't read you're post on that so I'm sorry for not knowing that sooner. I am planning on sticking with Power Armor most of the time so what would you suggest on my second weapon? If unarmed damage isn't that powerful in Power Armor how should I level up my melee character?

[Foxador]

Автор сообщения: Cody2Hottie

Автор сообщения: Foxador

If you're in power armor then smacking them with power armor fists would just tickle them. As I've mentioned several times unarmed damage in power armor is terrible. Yes you can increase it's damage but it'll always be super low per hit, like 30ish a hit. If you're going to stay in power armor just use melee but you can always switch the weapon to a faster melee weapon like a sword or the ripper

I actually didn't read you're post on that so I'm sorry for not knowing that sooner. I am planning on sticking with Power Armor most of the time so what would you suggest on my second weapon? If unarmed damage isn't that powerful in Power Armor how should I level up my melee character?

Like stat wise? I would recommend getting better crits and getting Blitz as perks. Now keep in mind that Blitz needs 9 AGI to get but it changes how you play dramatically. It allows you to rush across the room to attack enemies without having to get in their face, which in turn saves you from taking armor damage and once ranked up twice gives you a damage bonus. Better crits is nice for melee since it lets you hit hard and fast.

If you only plan on sticking in power armor I don't think you'll have much of a challenge so really that's all you need =P

If you ever play outside of PA do keep in mind that different armor gives different bonuses, like leather armor gives bonus damage to unarmed when you mod it with secondary effects and combat armor can make you immune to fire

[C2HGaming]

Автор сообщения: Foxador

Автор сообщения: Cody2Hottie

I actually didn't read you're post on that so I'm sorry for not knowing that sooner. I am planning on sticking with Power Armor most of the time so what would you suggest on my second weapon? If unarmed damage isn't that powerful in Power Armor how should I level up my melee character?

Like stat wise? I would recommend getting better crits and getting Blitz as perks. Now keep in mind that Blitz needs 9 AGI to get but it changes how you play dramatically. It allows you to rush across the room to attack enemies without having to get in their face, which in turn saves you from taking armor damage and once ranked up twice gives you a damage bonus. Better crits is nice for melee since it lets you hit hard and fast.

If you only plan on sticking in power armor I don't think you'll have much of a challenge so really that's all you need =P

If you ever play outside of PA do keep in mind that different armor gives different bonuses, like leather armor gives bonus damage to unarmed when you mod it with secondary effects and combat armor can make you immune to fire

That's kinda random what Combat Armor can do lol. Is that pretty much how most Melee builds are played as? VATS abuse and such? I'm not really a fan of that.

Well I might not stick with PA, from how my build is I won't be able to level up my PA like at all... until maybe I leveled everything else first. (Or even after game since Idiot Savant is my main source of leveling.) My armor will probably be heavy combat armor or raider...that looks badass too :)