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[Spoilers] What is the morally correct thing to do with Lorenzo Cabot?
On one hand, his family has kept him in a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ little room for 400 years while draining his blood. So you could maybe justify freeing him.

On the other hand, Lorenzo Cabot doesn't want to forgive his family, and we have no idea what is going on in "his" mind. So you could maybe justify killing him.

What do you think is the morally correct thing to do and why?
Last edited by Melting Mystic; Nov 27, 2015 @ 1:12pm
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haplo187 Nov 27, 2015 @ 1:12pm 
400 Years not 400 hours hehe. He seemed like an psycho to me so i offed him.
His family are leeches who have grown drunk and dependent on his blood. His son is trying to save him however he is pretty inept at it. If he dies they basically get their justice of growing old and dying.

Lorenzo isn't a saint for sure but in Bethseda's wasteland of bandits and mutants for days who is going to notice one more player into the fray?
Greb Nov 27, 2015 @ 1:19pm 
I think it's obvious that you kill him. He's evil. His son is trying to stop him because it's too late now thanks to the raiders. The Sister is strung out and doesn't care about life so losing the supply of serum is a great way to bring her back down to Earth. The Mother just seems like a withered old shrew that should of died a long time ago.

The only "good" thing that comes from releasing Lorenzo is the fact you open the eyes of that damn Ghoul Edward Deacon who was giving his life for the family for very little in return...but in doing so you release an unstoppable murderer that doesn't age and can rip apart people with his mind into the world. Not cool bro.

Ultimately the best thing to do is side with the Son. You get a sweet force gun, a sweet suit and sweet satisfaction knowing you've wrecked two selfish females aspiration of being beautiful forever. It...it brings a tear to your eye. The reward you get for saving Lorenzo is a drug that'll give you massive Damage Resistance (pointless) and +5 Strength (meh) plus -10 Radiation a second (pfft, wrecks Nerd Rage) for 3600 seconds, that you have to keep going through loading screens to obtain more of. It's lame, even for what it does...though if this was REAL LIFE I'd take immortality in a heartbeat of course.
smoky mcpot Nov 27, 2015 @ 1:23pm 
His son specificly states that lorenzo was a psychopath when free so the morally correct thing to do is kill him BUT there is no proof of this and you only have his word for it.
Originally posted by Greb:
I think it's obvious that you kill him. He's evil. His son is trying to stop him because it's too late now thanks to the raiders. The Sister is strung out and doesn't care about life so losing the supply of serum is a great way to bring her back down to Earth. The Mother just seems like a withered old shrew that should of died a long time ago.

The only "good" thing that comes from releasing Lorenzo is the fact you open the eyes of that damn Ghoul Edward Deacon who was giving his life for the family for very little in return...but in doing so you release an unstoppable murderer that doesn't age and can rip apart people with his mind into the world. Not cool bro.

Ultimately the best thing to do is side with the Son. You get a sweet force gun, a sweet suit and sweet satisfaction knowing you've wrecked two selfish females aspiration of being beautiful forever. It...it brings a tear to your eye. The reward you get for saving Lorenzo is a drug that'll give you massive Damage Resistance (pointless) and +5 Strength (meh) plus -10 Radiation a second (pfft, wrecks Nerd Rage) for 3600 seconds, that you have to keep going through loading screens to obtain more of. It's lame, even for what it does...though if this was REAL LIFE I'd take immortality in a heartbeat of course.

An additional bonus of saving Lorenzo is that you can change your mind at some point and try to boss fight him.
[Jacket] Nov 27, 2015 @ 1:56pm 
I am told that the serum stacks.
Keep using and ask for more.
GG Boys GG
I consider siding with Lorenzo to be a legitimate end to the game. I mean at that point you've become immortal and are essentially the right-hand of a psychic god-being armed with the knowledge of the ancient forefathers of all civilization.

Can't really see any other person or group that you meet really being able to top that one.

I mean seriously.... could being the so called "general" of the Minutemen and helping a bunch of farmers get killed, raped, and looted a tad bit less often, at least until you die and the Minutemen are left to disolve again without their leader to bind them togther, REALLY ever hope to compare to being an immortal sidekick to what is now essentially a god?
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fmalfeas Dec 4, 2015 @ 9:56pm 
The Master was essentially a god. Where's he now? Oh yeah, The Vault Dweller snuffed him out.

Frank Horrigan was evil Hercules with an integrated plasma cannon and grafted APA. The Chosen One snuffed him.

Big bad superpowered villians tend to meet sad, lonely ends in Fallout. Snuffed by a random guy kicked out of his house for having seen outside or killed by a tribal who has the meanest aunt on the planet, a tattered vaultsuit he thinks is a holy relic, and gets his advice from someone tripping on healing powder.
Peter Pan Dec 4, 2015 @ 10:20pm 
Lorenzo looks like a parody of Magneto. And like Magneto, he is a villain that must be destroyed.
Digi Dec 4, 2015 @ 10:23pm 
Actually after reading all the logs on their terminals I think Lorenzo was right.
His son locked him at first because he didn't believe him and thought he was going crazy.

In fact he wasn't crazy, just enraged that his family didn't believe him and locked him up.
Both endings thought don't have any good physical reward, just the knowledge of the lore.
rooolig Dec 18, 2015 @ 7:56am 
iff you kill jack and the rest you get murder in stats i hid in another room and let him kill them himself so i avoided the murder stat.. killing lorenzo dount coiunt as murder on stats.
leftharted Dec 18, 2015 @ 8:20am 
Huh; so if you side with him, you can get more serum?

how/where, exactly?

I assume he trek's back to the cabot house, then stays there, and you can go request more serum??? Ive killed him on current play-through, but that serum was +5 str I think, would be nifty for a melee character.

curious on details. I can deal with a loading screen for an hour long buff.
ellenjanuary Dec 18, 2015 @ 9:05am 
I saved him and he said ______
Which can't be the right answer, so... :/
sedna16 Dec 18, 2015 @ 9:14am 
I released lorenzo, but we killed him on their house. still same ending.
BigDaddy Jun 11, 2016 @ 12:10pm 
Originally posted by Berser King:
On one hand, his family has kept him in a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ little room for 400 years while draining his blood. So you could maybe justify freeing him.

On the other hand, Lorenzo Cabot doesn't want to forgive his family, and we have no idea what is going on in "his" mind. So you could maybe justify killing him.

What do you think is the morally correct thing to do and why?

The great thing about this quest and many other quests in Fallout 4 is that there is no right answer. Anyone who says there is, is just pushing their line of thinking on you.

If you've ever had surgery done, especially major surgery as I have, that's another way to look at this. Imagine doing something to yourself that other people think makes you crazy, although you haven't hurt anyone in doing so (you can't take one person's word as fact), and a "doctor" performs surgery on you, against your will, to remove it. Not to mention he imprisons you to do it because he can't figure out how to un-do what you did.

If you're saying that's just fine with you, you're flat-out lying. That is a major violation of doctor-patient trust, not to mention father-son trust, and a violation of simple human rights.

If the guy was going around killing people who were not trying to kill or even hurt him, different story, but the son said he was in prison before he got the artifact, not after. Did he do anything bad using the artifact? We don't know, and from what I know from the quest he was imprisoned by the son immediately because he "was crazy". And, do we just not trust ex-cons because they are ex-cons? That's not right, either.

The God's honest truth is, the right thing that the son should have done from the beginning, if what he says is true and his father is as crazy and evil as he says, is instead of imprisoning and trying to cure him, he should have killed him. He basically said he was in prison before the artifact for being a serial killer or something terrible.

But, he didn't do that. Why? You know why, because he didn't want to kill his father (assuming because he's his father), then he found the serum and used it as an excuse to continue his own crazy behavior. If you don't believe that, you're naive about human behavior. He, his sister, and his mother were all denying the obvious truth about that.

Both of these people should have been imprisoned or killed for what they did. There is no good outcome other than to remove all of them from the world.

And, like someone else said, with all the crazy, murderous people in this world, how bad are they, really? But, that's no excuse if you are trying to build/maintain a civil society where people aren't mutilated and tortured against their will or where people can't just go around killing other people because they can.

So, your choice in how to end this quest is a choice of what kind of world you (your in-game character) wants to live in. Just like real life: the world is what we make it.
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