[SPOILERS] Super Mutants in Fallout 4 ?

[Lucas]

Hi.

The super mutants in Fallout 4 are a massive group of the vault 87 who move on Commonwealth or they are created by the Institut ? (maybe for switch humans and synth ?)

[Greb]

They were created and cast aside by the Institute. That's how Bethesda handwaved it anyway.

Instead of this super secret one of a kind supply that was being tested on only in Mariposa Military Base it's now quite common and everywhere aparently. They did not travel from the Capital Wasteland because by canon the middle of the US is entirely wrecked by storms, tornados and all other crazy inhospitable weather, you have to fly across, and they're not that organised. Just created by the Institute looking for a cure for the FEV and such.

Now I'm going to assume that the Mutants don't just use recycled dialogue from 3 (which they totally do but lets pretend they don't) and they actually mean something when they say "No green stuff here..." so it's safe to assume that once again they have the hive mentality of capturing humans to eat or dip to make more of them, and that somehow, even though you never see it and it's not mentioned, there's some kind of FEV Vats somewhere that is also the Super Mutants base, possibly outside the Commonwealth.

While it's entirely possible the Mutants came from the West Coast all the way to the East Coast in search of "green stuff" it's more likely the 10 year trek would of either mutated them into Behemoths by then (and since there are weak versions around the Commonwealth this is not likely) or they would of been killed and beaten down over time by local forces, which they don't appear to be as they're strong and building listening posts everywhere.

Swan was created by someone, also. Notes mention them doing something to him and making him wait in a box or something...so...FEV does exist around the Commonwealth.

Anyway, yeah.

[travisjoern]

Following the spoiler note... The Institut experimented on FEV, and even actually created a working cure of it. They weren't producing mutants, they probably abducted them. Anything that got out from their lab would have had to been teleported out, since they aren't smart enough to work machines if they broke out.

Not clear where they actually came from though...

[Skaldy]

answer is bethesda thinks super mutties are orcs of the fallout universe. So there is pretty much no lore behind it.

[Greb]

There are holotape logs mentioning experimenting with FEV, which is what they used to turn captured humans (possibly even the people they replaced with synths) into mutants, and even a terminal which talks about the effects on males, females etc, how one of them was too intelligent and had to be killed, another was so aggressive it had to be destroyed etc.

Also there's X-01 Power Armour all around the Commonwealth so I guess we can assume the ENCLAVE WOZ ERE 2241 and merely brought FEV with them or something.

Originally posted by Skaldy:

answer is bethesda thinks super mutties are orcs of the fallout universe. So there is pretty much no lore behind it.

This guy gets it. Fallout 1, Fallout 2, Fallout Tactics, Fallout Brotherhood of Steel and Fallout New Vegas are pretty much not canon anymore as far as Bethesda is concerned. They've taken the setting and set up, but reimagined it, in a real bad way.

[Lucas]

Originally posted by Skaldy:

answer is bethesda thinks super mutties are orcs of the fallout universe. So there is pretty much no lore behind it.

Yeah sure talk me about orcs in TES plz u idiot