So why do they explain what 'Ad Victoriam' Means?

[Shadow]

I wish there was a speech check to say what that even means.

[Neshamah]

Type 'Ad Victoriam' into Google. It will tell you that the Latin phrase means "to victory." It isn't a secret language, or anything.

[TwinChops]

They accually tell you what Ad Victoriam means, you just need to ask.

[Shadow]

Originally posted by Neshamah:

Type 'Ad Victoriam' into Google. It will tell you that the Latin phrase means "to victory." It isn't a secret language, or anything.

I know but I already knew it is what I mean. It could have been to test you or something.

[Tizferatu]

I haven't noticed anything other than charisma checks. I don't think any of X checks other than that exist (or they're really super rare). Huge missed opportunity.

[Ensign]

Yeah Op made it pretty clear "why DO they EXPLAIN....." so yeah he knew.

But OP, why didnt they have to explain? I knew it was latin, i dont know latin, id have googled it, better they tell me now. I could tell victoriam is victory or victorious since its so similar but not ad.

I dont see how adding a speech check would help though.
Danse says something in latin, and the choices are...

His subbordinates dont know so he may as well tell them

You dont know so he may as well tell you

You do know so no need to regurgitate the info back to him since he is the one telling you.

Speech checks for having skills i can see the merits of existing like someone asking a medical question and you having the medical expertise perk to answer for a pat on the head. But answering a "know what this latin phrase means" question i dont see the merits of. Help me out? Like a test to test what exactly? Your int stat? Its danse, i dont think he'd care how smart you are but how good you was with guns and bunker busting.

[PanicButton]

Originally posted by Remus Speed:

I wish there was a speech check to say what that even means.

It would be more of an intelligence check...

[Neshamah]

Originally posted by Remus Speed:

Originally posted by Neshamah:

Type 'Ad Victoriam' into Google. It will tell you that the Latin phrase means "to victory." It isn't a secret language, or anything.

I know but I already knew it is what I mean. It could have been to test you or something.

Sorry, misread your post.

[Shadow]

I know but the player character could have said "Ad Victoriam means To Victory." It isn't hard to do at all.

[Dread]

(Necro post, I know. But I felt like the OP's question wasn't answered satisfactorily.)

I think I can give a good reason why Danse would explain the phrase at the same time that he used it. Consider that the BoS is effectively a military organization. For Danse to use the phrase but not explain it to you (a new recruit) would be exactly like a Drill Instructor using the phrase "Semper Fidelis!" to new Marine recruits without explaining. Danse tells you the phrase and the meaning simultaneously because he's not just saying, "hey here's a thing". What he's really doing is welcoming you to the Brotherhood, which by its nature includes "hey let me also fold you into our mentality and shared goals".

In that scenario it would be weird for him to NOT explain it. As an analogy, picture the strangeness of him or his Scribes telling you to "go retrieve this piece of advanced technology" but also deliberately refusing to tell you WHY it's important or WHY it's worth the trouble (or maybe even WHAT the thing was, like saying "go get a foot-long box-shaped thing from this place".) It wouldn't fit in with the doctrine or the mindset of the team, and would imply you were just permanently an outsider.

[Shadow]

Originally posted by Dreadgod:

(Necro post, I know. But I felt like the OP's question wasn't answered satisfactorily.)

I think I can give a good reason why Danse would explain the phrase at the same time that he used it. Consider that the BoS is effectively a military organization. For Danse to use the phrase but not explain it to you (a new recruit) would be exactly like a Drill Instructor using the phrase "Semper Fidelis!" to new Marine recruits without explaining. Danse tells you the phrase and the meaning simultaneously because he's not just saying, "hey here's a thing". What he's really doing is welcoming you to the Brotherhood, which by its nature includes "hey let me also fold you into our mentality and shared goals".

In that scenario it would be weird for him to NOT explain it. As an analogy, picture the strangeness of him or his Scribes telling you to "go retrieve this piece of advanced technology" but also deliberately refusing to tell you WHY it's important or WHY it's worth the trouble (or maybe even WHAT the thing was, like saying "go get a foot-long box-shaped thing from this place".) It wouldn't fit in with the doctrine or the mindset of the team, and would imply you were just permanently an outsider.

Yeah still it couldn't have hurt for them to have a speech check there for either your character to say Ad Victoriam or have a speech check before danse tells you what it is.

[Brandybuck]

Stupid game doesn't even have speech check for "Ad Victorium" means! This is why <insert other game here> is morally superior!!!