i dont understand one thing about the radiation in fallout universe

[Nexures]

if the great war, and the atomic bombs started on October 23, 2077 which apparently created such disaster that most of the living things died... how did the people on the planet, who werent in the vaults survived? how did the animals survive? how did they reproduce for 200 years where fallout 3 and 4 happened ? how did people still continued war during that time? i dont get it

especially, how did they continue war with no electricity? since the nuclear bombs created global emp for hundreds of years

[Gon]

Originally posted by ØпiҠanji:

Yea? Well Bethesda disregarded everything we know when the spokesman literally said they don't care about realism. Many un canon things are in fallout 4, like things that broke the wiki timeline, the wiki is made by players and fans if you didn't know

The Fallout 2 development team said the same thing, why aren't you jumping on them? They said in the event of a conflict of lore/realism vs fun, fun would win every time.

[Mook]

Originally posted by TSWolf Nexures:

Originally posted by TSWolf Nexures:

i dont know who children of atom are. imma look it up

Originally posted by ØпiҠanji:

They didn't fight, the war ended basically right after the bombs hit. Remember everything runs on atomic power, how did fusion cells survive the blast of there was a global EMP

but surely, werent there some chinese that still thought the war was on? still alive with their chinese uniforms, weapons etc in fallout 3 ? cant remember

Not really no, if they were then what do you mean? They shoot guns that don't need power, also EMPs arnt permanent

[Piderman]

Originally posted by Takeda71:

Ghouls are from one of the Vaults(12 i think) in which door couldnt be closed when bomb hit(vault experiment), this + combined with FEV in atmosphere after bombs hiting West-Tek facility turned humans into ghouls.

Ghouls are the result of exposing humans to certain amounts and types of radiation, causing specific cell mutations. Wild ones basically endet up with a fried brain so only basic instincts remain.

[Wolfsun]

Originally posted by Xilo:

Because its a video game.

A very wise man. Listen to him.

[smoky mcpot]

Originally posted by TSWolf Nexures:

so pretty much, its tiny little bit like walking dead, in a way that we dont know whats going on in the world? we dont know how russia is doing, ireland, madagascar china or anything like that? they might as well be living normally with no radiation or monsters ?

It doesn't matter if any other country got hit with a bomb or not the radiation and nuclear winter and the drop in temperature would be devastating to all countrys right across the planet. In the real world we would have major problems mainly with food and clean water but in fallout they have things like rad away and rad x and food that lasts hundreds of years the people had a number of long wars to prepare. Wars started all across the word over resources from 2052 onward that is 25 years before the bombs even fell and more than enough time to plan for the worst.

[UnderTow]

well the face of the matter is even if everyone fired all their nukes civilization would still survive, there is so much area that would never get bombed on the planet. Even if CHina USA and russia had a nuclear war theres still the restof the world, its just that america think they are the world.. so if theyre dead everyones dead.. very shallow thinking

[Zalzany]

One miltary grade ♥♥♥♥ has EMP sheilding not all of it, but obviosly the power arm has it in this universe. Two go look up chernable that place was a real life disaster area with vehichles from first responders still at lethal radiactive levels and the animials adapted to the area, its an unofficial animial refuge now. Plants and wild life adapted to it, and took over the quanteen area, those who could live through it, simply reproduced, and the traits that helped them be tolerent became domint in local species.

Life will go on short of blocking out the sun, or removing all water on earth were in that magic sweetspot form the sun that something will live and reproduce after any disaster that is thrown at the planet, just maybe not all humans but I bet some would survive, but still would lose a billion plus easy.

Another thing you don't get nukes aren't magic, I know in movies a single bullet and your dead in seconds with only enough time to have some kind dramatic last word scene but in real life more people die over time to nukes then form the blasts. I mean Hiroshima was not even a hundred years ago yet, they rebuilt the city, and tons people lived through it, tons more died, most of them died after the explosion from posioning or cancer, and some had messed up babies, but for most part city rebuilt and now they just keep a small peice of it as a memoral musem to promote peace, and banning of nukes.

Its just like the reactor in japan that went ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ form the tidal wave, people lived through it, yeah there is gonna be a lot of cancer cases I bet, but there not gonna drop dead in next few years, most will die like 10-20 years earlier then they should have wich in Japan would translate to around 60 years old since they got long life expentancies for a country that isn't hoped up on pills like mine.

See its not the fact we can't live through a nuke, we could survive it problem is ones on this scale your talking about 1/5 are gonna survive the nukes and radiation sickness and live to like 50, and since in this world they already embraced nuclear ♥♥♥♥ they got radaway a way to clense radation from the body, wich we don't have in real life, but in their world had to be invented since they drive nuclear cars so some had to sort out that miracle breakthrough to have that with out people dying from car accidents or trying to tune up their own car lol.

And keeping a war going with no power, electronic warfare is fearly new thing, its not hard at all to keep going with out the internet or power plants. Like I said before miltary has EMP shielding its expensive so not every thing gets it for budget reasons they also have portable generators stashes all over, and bunkers full of ♥♥♥♥ to keep war going after the nukes hit that are procteced from the fall out. And this is real life I am talking about, in cold war days we had fall out bunkers with state of the art tech at the time to keep in touch with the miltary, and bunkers for miltary equipment and emergancy supplies, granted an attack on the scale in this game would leave the country in shambles and the war wouldn't last long and just like this game troops would desert, and equipment be scuttled or left out for non miltary to pick up and try and salvage.

I love that part of this because to me its still a fantasy game, but its realistic outcome to the old school fantasy of how the future might have been. This was based on the old cold war vision of the future, radiacative powered cars, old school televisions, and radios still in use, robot buttlers, power armor with freaking jet packs for soliders, all stuff straight out of Korea Vet era fantasy of what the future was gonna be. Including the never ending struggle between america and the commies lol

[TopZoz]

One thing that really annoys me is how benign radiation is. Realistically, radiation is no joke, and even having a few too many X-Rays can cause irreversible consequences. But in Fallout, RadAway is handed out like candy. Even in Fallout 1, back when RadAway was far more scarce, there's no point worrying about radiation at all.

Here's a story:
Playing Fallout 1, I went to The Glow, got the "you have recieved a large dose of radiation" message at least 30 times, and then left. No radiation chems, nothing. Sure, I got stopped a few times and the game told me that my character's skin was fallling off, but a while later, all was fine and I got let into the BoS.

Sucks that the entire series is based around a nuclear war, and only seems to focus to the "war" part.

[Mook]

Originally posted by ThaGuy219:

One thing that really annoys me is how benign radiation is. Realistically, radiation is no joke, and even having a few too many X-Rays can cause irreversible consequences. But in Fallout, RadAway is handed out like candy. Even in Fallout 1, back when RadAway was far more scarce, there's no point worrying about radiation at all.

Here's a story:
Playing Fallout 1, I went to The Glow, got the "you have recieved a large dose of radiation" message at least 30 times, and then left. No radiation chems, nothing. Sure, I got stopped a few times and the game told me that my character's skin was fallling off, but a while later, all was fine and I got let into the BoS.

Sucks that the entire series is based around a nuclear war, and only seems to focus to the "war" part.

How do you want them to do radiation then? The way they did it in other games made radiation not important. Now they did it fine for a game. If you want it better than put it on survival or increase the difficulty with mods, where radaway gets rid of 5% of your rads

[Morrandir]

Originally posted by ThaGuy219:

One thing that really annoys me is how benign radiation is. Realistically, radiation is no joke, and even having a few too many X-Rays can cause irreversible consequences. But in Fallout, RadAway is handed out like candy. Even in Fallout 1, back when RadAway was far more scarce, there's no point worrying about radiation at all.

Here's a story:
Playing Fallout 1, I went to The Glow, got the "you have recieved a large dose of radiation" message at least 30 times, and then left. No radiation chems, nothing. Sure, I got stopped a few times and the game told me that my character's skin was fallling off, but a while later, all was fine and I got let into the BoS.

Sucks that the entire series is based around a nuclear war, and only seems to focus to the "war" part.

radaway is a result of stuff like nuka cola quantum. pre war people were being exposed to too much radiation thus stuff like radaway were created.

[Trotuar]

Originally posted by Jebediah Kerman:

Originally posted by Takeda71:

Ghouls are from one of the Vaults(12 i think) in which door couldnt be closed when bomb hit(vault experiment), this + combined with FEV in atmosphere after bombs hiting West-Tek facility turned humans into ghouls.

Ghouls are the result of exposing humans to certain amounts and types of radiation, causing specific cell mutations. Wild ones basically endet up with a fried brain so only basic instincts remain.

Thats F3/F4 reasoning.

[cgillmore85]

Originally posted by Takeda71:

Originally posted by Jebediah Kerman:

Ghouls are the result of exposing humans to certain amounts and types of radiation, causing specific cell mutations. Wild ones basically endet up with a fried brain so only basic instincts remain.

Thats F3/F4 reasoning.

Well since Bethesda owns Fallout, then that's now the new official lore straight from the source. And it's what I go by.

It's funny all the people saying Bethesda screwed up the lore lol. Um they own it. They can do what they damn well please. I wouldn't give a ♥♥♥♥ about messing up fan written BS either.

Probably the same people who say that Fallout 1/2 are better games. What a joke that is. Comparing modern masterpieces to top down, turn based games that look like they're running on a Sega Saturn. Where you have to read the story..If I wanted to read a story, I'd read Twilight and masturbate profusley.

Seriously though, to me, Fallout 3 is Fallout 1, Fallout NV is Fallout 1.5 and Fallout 4 is Fallout 2. Y'all can keep those other Fallout games. And yes I played them all, even Tactics.

[Xerxes]

It has been made explicit by the Black Isle back when FO 1 was released (read the Fallout Bible) that Physics in the Fallout universe work differently than in real life, it's a video game afterall. You don't expect Humans to turn into Ghouls when exposed to radiation but to die slowly and painfully.

[ostar]

Originally posted by werewolf1326:

The immediate destruction caused by the bombs would be the least of one's worries. Fallout everywhere due to the normal winds that exist would have been enough to poison the entire planet. Add to that the nuclear winter that would have lasted at least 3 years and probably more like 5 to 7 and it wouldn't have mattered if you lived thru the bombing and survived the fallout or not. You'd have starved to death because nothing would have grown and most if not all of the animals would have died.

If you were on the surface most humans (especially city dwellers) would be dead in a week and the rest probably within 6 months or so and everything else living along with you from disease and/or starvation except those living underground.

The only thing that could have survived an all out nuclear war would have been those below ground in something like what FO postulates - a vault.

And when the vaults opened up a hundred or even 200 years later the survivors would exit to at best a world with no people, no above ground animals and only the creatures that survived because they were undergrond dwellers and most of the radiation gone.

AT worst the Earth would be dead, Dead, DEAD!!!.

I was considering debating everything that is wrong here, but you're so obviously glued to your incorrect beliefs, it would be pointless for me to even try.

Do some reading.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_fallout

I'm sure it wont make a difference, you'll probably skim it or not even bother.

["lil" poon]

Originally posted by werewolf1326:

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For someone who keeps ragging on about it being 'just a game' you sure feel the need to display immense amounts of jaded assblastery. Guess being 'in da real life service' turns you into an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, who would've thought.