Most efficient way to farm ammo? (CELLS)

[JerrBear]

Title, is the only way to either buy them or farm synths? I'm at the part where you have to rescue Nick Valentine, I already joined the Brotherhood and did a few quests.

[KoalafiedKiller]

Use different weapons with different ammo, when one type gets low switch to the other caliber.

Also invest in Luck and get the scrounger perk

[State Line Crosser]

Scrounger. You will be drowning in ammo shortly.

[Mr.Hmm]

Kill Synths/BoS(these 2 groups have the most Cell Ammo) and you will be drowning in ammo while having Scrounger perk maxed out.

[Blind Mr. Owl]

At higher lvls more things like the gunners and raiders will start using laser weapons

[Eldorado3533]

when your doing the arcjet mission for the brotherhood (the first mission) while danse is getting rekt by the synths just go get a coffee and your get a bunch of dead chromedomes

[troy_cummings]

Originally posted by mr fahrenhiet:

when your doing the arcjet mission for the brotherhood (the first mission) while danse is getting rekt by the synths just go get a coffee and your get a bunch of dead chromedomes

^^ I let him play around for a bit while I watched the cells role in

[Soothing Darkness]

I find that if you use the laser musket with a multiple crank capacitor, plus scrounger; you get excellent results. Whenever your scrounger perk gives you the ammo on reloading your weapon, you get enough fusion cells for a full charge. Meaning that if you fire one shot at a time, you can retain ammo very well. For me, it seems to be somewhere around 20 cells lost for every 30 fired when you do one crank reloads in a laser musket with a 6 crank capacitor. Obviously you won't get 6 cells if you have a laser musket that has a maximum of 2 crank capacitor, but this method would certainly still benefit you.

Luck will influence how often your scrounger perk will give you ammo. The wiki says 5%+luck. I don't know what exactly that formula means. So I have to assume it's 1% per point of luck. Which would be 2 luck minimum since you unlock it with 2 luck. so 7% to whatever you can push your luck out to. If that is how it actually works, you will break even somewhere in the low to mid teens, and gain ammo beyond that. Assuming you find/make a six crank laser musket by the time you have the 4th perk in scrounger.

Something to keep in mind though; a laser musket doesn't seem to get the ammo refill from regular reloading. You'll have to shoot in V.A.T.S., which makes your character reload automaticly. To do this you either by don't have it charged at all when you activate V.A.T.S, have enough AP to get multiple shots, or if you have a lot of AP, you can do both.

There is (or was) some dumb bug that excludes fusion cells from find-able ammo. There was a mod that fixed scrounger, but I don't remember what it was. It's redundant now, since patch 1.4 fixed this problem.

[jonnan.west]

I don't even have Scrounger and ammo's just not a problem. I find the most prevalent to be .38 > 10mm > 45 > Fusion Cell, all of which I'll have more than 1,000 by level 20 or so (although 45 is pretty rare up to a certain point, and suddenly you're dripping with it. And 5mm but at the rate Miniguns burn through it I don't favor it; just give those to Settlers that regenerate Ammo)

I've never had more than a thousand of anything else, but Shotgun Shells build up; EC is pretty rare as are Fusion Cores 'kinda'. .44 usually have more than 100. I've never actually found 45-70 or 7.62 but I haven't done Far Harbor yet.

The Laser Musket is the great dissed weapon of the game - uses common ammo and with two-shot and fully upgraded can kill a behemoth with care, and pretty consistently out performs the gauss rifle before level 39.

[Doombringer]

45 ends up being the most common ammo in the game, followed by energy cells.
If you really need ammo (and aren't playing survival) you can just teleport between weapon shops buying tons of it.
If you need money setup water farm in settlement and you can get more money than you can possibly spend.
If you don't want time to pass while shop farming, get to the institute so you unlock teleport. (non-survival only) (Fast travel to the institute, then where ever you actually want to go to get there is 2minutes of game time.)

[Bored Peon]

Automatron DLC will bury you in Fusion Cells.

Originally posted by Doombringer:

If you need money setup water farm in settlement and you can get more money than you can possibly spend.

I doubt money is the issue. The issue is more like he is probably running out of vendors to buy them from combined with spending more time running around vendor to vendor than playing.

I had the same issue with .50 Caliber ammo until I started buying in bulk form Eleanor and Leonard Moore. The only issue is neither sells energy ammo (if I remember right.) He just needs to figure out who that fusion cell supplier equivilent is and buy in bulk whenever possible.

My advice is always carry a secondary weapon, and maybe a 3rd. Most my games I only use a .50 caliber sniper rifle (200 shots), a shotgun 30-50 shots, and a 10mm pistol (40-60 shots.)

[Doombringer]

One trip to every vendor gets you thousands of energy cells/day, It's not really possible to use it faster than they generate it... (and if you somehow manage that, pass a day and do it again.)
Fast travel normally drops you right in front of vendors. (Pyrdwyn and Vault 81 are exceptions)

[Bored Peon]

Originally posted by Doombringer:

One trip to every vendor gets you thousands of energy cells/day, It's not really possible to use it faster than they generate it... (and if you somehow manage that, pass a day and do it again.)

He is not at that point though.

Originally posted by JerrBear:

I'm at the part where you have to rescue Nick Valentine, I already joined the Brotherhood and did a few quests.

There is not that many vendors that early on selling energy cells. Just like .50 caliber ammo is fairly rare and low amounts early on. His best vendors are probably Arturo in Diamond City and KLEO in Goodneighbor, and maybe Vault 81 if he opened it.

Also if he is playing survival he will spend a lot of time making those runs. Most likely using a decent portion of that ammo clearing random encounters.

[Doombringer]

Originally posted by Doombringer:

If you really need ammo (and aren't playing survival) you can just teleport between weapon shops buying tons of it.

It's almost like I only meant that advise to be followed if he was NOT playing on survival or something...

[Bored Peon]

Originally posted by Doombringer:

Originally posted by Doombringer:

If you really need ammo (and aren't playing survival) you can just teleport between weapon shops buying tons of it.

It's almost like I only meant that advise to be followed if he was NOT playing on survival or something...

Almost like you did not read his initial question.

Originally posted by JerrBear:

I'm at the part where you have to rescue Nick Valentine, I already joined the Brotherhood and did a few quests.

If he has not rescued Nick he obviously can not use the Institute teleporter.

[Doombringer]

The first time I said teleport I meant fast travel (not specifically to the institute, fast travel does teleport you, but if you don't go to the institute it passes game time.)

That was the third part of my response 'if you don't want to pass time' - if you don't care about time passing ignore it, but if you do I said 'get to the institute to unlock teleport' - like I knew he wasn't there yet.