"No Upgrade" Mod Duplication Bug

[Phoenix]

So I found a somewhat odd glitch that can be exploited to earn infinite caps. I bought this weapon called General Chao's Revenge and discovered an interesting glitch related to it. If you go into your Weapon bench and "unequip" the I think secondary mod, then reequip it, it will actually store a "No Upgrade" mod in your inventory that is worth around 50 caps. If you then put this mod in a container (not the workbench) and then repeat, you get another one. This can be done a seemingly infinite amount of times, and vendors will buy them like any other mod. This may work with other unique weapons as well but this is the only one I've found that does this. It's a low priority but should probably be patched.

[The Rarest Pepe]

Or you could just add caps via a console command seeing as this is the PC version.

[Phoenix]

Originally posted by PRESS F TO PAY RESPECTS:

Or you could just add caps via a console command seeing as this is the PC version.

You could, but Bethesda has said that using console commands could mess up save files, and I really wouldn't want to take that chance, plus I was partly posting this to bring this to their attention. If people want to use it to earn caps, that's their choice, it's just another option. I for one will probably only use it if I'm in a pinch.

[Mook]

Originally posted by Ph0enix:

Originally posted by PRESS F TO PAY RESPECTS:

Or you could just add caps via a console command seeing as this is the PC version.

You could, but Bethesda has said that using console commands could mess up save files, and I really wouldn't want to take that chance, plus I was partly posting this to bring this to their attention. If people want to use it to earn caps, that's their choice, it's just another option. I for one will probably only use it if I'm in a pinch.

Don't be brainwashed by them, I only messes up files if you put god mode and spawn 999999 fat mans or spawn 999999 death claws, spawning in small amounts won't break anything, they just don't want you to cheat, if anything glitching will break your game

[Phoenix]

Originally posted by ØпiҠanji:

Originally posted by Ph0enix:

You could, but Bethesda has said that using console commands could mess up save files, and I really wouldn't want to take that chance, plus I was partly posting this to bring this to their attention. If people want to use it to earn caps, that's their choice, it's just another option. I for one will probably only use it if I'm in a pinch.

Don't be brainwashed by them, I only messes up files if you put god mode and spawn 999999 fat mans or spawn 999999 death claws, spawning in small amounts won't break anything, they just don't want you to cheat, if anything glitching will break your game

That is false. Some console commands are fine, but some can mess things up. For instance, changing your name via console commands resets your stats. I luckily noticed this and reloaded an earlier save, but this could have messed me up pretty bad. There are other things as well that can mess you up if you're not careful. It's true they don't want you to cheat, but they also don't want people to mess themselves up and then come crying to Bethesda to fix it. My point was that this is an in-game way to make money, and even tough it's a glitch, it still uses the games rules to work, so it has no chance of messing up your save.

[Mook]

Originally posted by Ph0enix:

Originally posted by ØпiҠanji:

Don't be brainwashed by them, I only messes up files if you put god mode and spawn 999999 fat mans or spawn 999999 death claws, spawning in small amounts won't break anything, they just don't want you to cheat, if anything glitching will break your game

That is false. Some console commands are fine, but some can mess things up. For instance, changing your name via console commands resets your stats. I luckily noticed this and reloaded an earlier save, but this could have messed me up pretty bad. There are other things as well that can mess you up if you're not careful. It's true they don't want you to cheat, but they also don't want people to mess themselves up and then come crying to Bethesda to fix it. My point was that this is an in-game way to make money, and even tough it's a glitch, it still uses the games rules to work, so it has no chance of messing up your save.

If you couldn't tell I was being general, adding caps to your character won't break your game, you shouldn't do it anyway. Also, did you take this video? Because the quality is AMAZING

[Phoenix]

Originally posted by ØпiҠanji:

Originally posted by Ph0enix:

That is false. Some console commands are fine, but some can mess things up. For instance, changing your name via console commands resets your stats. I luckily noticed this and reloaded an earlier save, but this could have messed me up pretty bad. There are other things as well that can mess you up if you're not careful. It's true they don't want you to cheat, but they also don't want people to mess themselves up and then come crying to Bethesda to fix it. My point was that this is an in-game way to make money, and even tough it's a glitch, it still uses the games rules to work, so it has no chance of messing up your save.

If you couldn't tell I was being general, adding caps to your character won't break your game, you shouldn't do it anyway. Also, did you take this video? Because the quality is AMAZING

Ah, I thought you were just saying console commands in general wouldn't mess up your save. Yes, adding caps would probably be fine, but in general I'd just rather stay away from the console. Besides, at least with this glitch you still have to work to get the caps, so it doesn't feel as much like cheating. Getting 1 million caps would still take a while because you still have to go through the process to generate all those glitched mods. Console commands just feel too much like cheating. But like I said, I probably won't even use this glitch much anyway as it somewhat breaks immersion. Also, what video are you referring to?

[Mook]

Originally posted by Ph0enix:

Originally posted by ØпiҠanji:

If you couldn't tell I was being general, adding caps to your character won't break your game, you shouldn't do it anyway. Also, did you take this video? Because the quality is AMAZING

Ah, I thought you were just saying console commands in general wouldn't mess up your save. Yes, adding caps would probably be fine, but in general I'd just rather stay away from the console. Besides, at least with this glitch you still have to work to get the caps, so it doesn't feel as much like cheating. Getting 1 million caps would still take a while because you still have to go through the process to generate all those glitched mods. Console commands just feel too much like cheating. But like I said, I probably won't even use this glitch much anyway as it somewhat breaks immersion. Also, what video are you referring to?

Nvm lol, I already commented on 3 other cap glitch threads, one had a crappy iPod video on his ps4

[Phoenix]

Originally posted by ØпiҠanji:

Originally posted by Ph0enix:

Ah, I thought you were just saying console commands in general wouldn't mess up your save. Yes, adding caps would probably be fine, but in general I'd just rather stay away from the console. Besides, at least with this glitch you still have to work to get the caps, so it doesn't feel as much like cheating. Getting 1 million caps would still take a while because you still have to go through the process to generate all those glitched mods. Console commands just feel too much like cheating. But like I said, I probably won't even use this glitch much anyway as it somewhat breaks immersion. Also, what video are you referring to?

Nvm lol, I already commented on 3 other cap glitch threads, one had a crappy iPod video on his ps4

Ah, I had a feeling you were mixing this one up with something else. Make sure you get your comment on the right thread, it was pretty funny with the right context :)

[†Cross†]

Hmm why would I use a glitch when I can just use a console command? This aint the PS4/XB1 ver. try posting this on gamefaqs or something.

[Phoenix]

Originally posted by †Cross†:

Hmm why would I use a glitch when I can just use a console command? This aint the PS4/XB1 ver. try posting this on gamefaqs or something.

Read the other comments, I explain why very clearly. If I wanted to post on gamefaqs I would have, but since this applies to the steam version of the game, this seemed like an appropriate place to post it. If you want to use console commands, that's great for you, but not everyone wants to flat out cheat like that...this is for those that don't want to do that. This also acts as a bug report so Bethesda can see it, if they're paying attention. Plus I just thought this was an interesting bug that I would report as it amused me.

[†Cross†]

Originally posted by Ph0enix:

Originally posted by †Cross†:

Hmm why would I use a glitch when I can just use a console command? This aint the PS4/XB1 ver. try posting this on gamefaqs or something.

Read the other comments, I explain why very clearly. If I wanted to post on gamefaqs I would have, but since this applies to the steam version of the game, this seemed like an appropriate place to post it. If you want to use console commands, that's great for you, but not everyone wants to flat out cheat like that...this is for those that don't want to do that. This also acts as a bug report so Bethesda can see it, if they're paying attention. Plus I just thought this was an interesting bug that I would report as it amused me.

I did read it. Using this glitch is the same as using a console command, only it takes longer. So no matter what your flat out cheating one way or the other.

Bug report I can get tho but not the "Don't wanna cheat" part.

[Phoenix]

Originally posted by †Cross†:

Originally posted by Ph0enix:

Read the other comments, I explain why very clearly. If I wanted to post on gamefaqs I would have, but since this applies to the steam version of the game, this seemed like an appropriate place to post it. If you want to use console commands, that's great for you, but not everyone wants to flat out cheat like that...this is for those that don't want to do that. This also acts as a bug report so Bethesda can see it, if they're paying attention. Plus I just thought this was an interesting bug that I would report as it amused me.

I did read it. Using this glitch is the same as using a console command, only it takes longer. So no matter what your flat out cheating one way or the other.

Bug report I can get tho but not the "Don't wanna cheat" part.

Originally posted by Spawk:

Originally posted by Ph0enix:

If you want to use console commands, that's great for you, but not everyone wants to flat out cheat like that...this is for those that don't want to do that.

You're still cheating by using a duplication glitch, only way more slowly. Might as well cut out the middle man and not waste your own time.

It's cheating to a lesser extent because you still have to work for it, and it's safer than using console commands. Like I said though, I'm only posting it so people know about it in case they're interested. If you aren't, then I don't understand why you're commenting as it's a non-issue for you. I am not planning to use the glitch anymore myself, but if other people want to that's their choice because they now know about it. The main purpose of this was to let the developers know and to fully describe the method of reproducing the glitch.

[Reyn]

Pre patch a random quest wouldnt spawn the synths for me to continue, lvl 37 at that time, hadnt saved prior to accepting quest by a few hours at that point. so ended up completing 1 segment of the overall quest with console command.

[Phoenix]

Originally posted by Spawk:

Originally posted by Ph0enix:

It's cheating to a lesser extent because you still have to work for it, and it's safer than using console commands. Like I said though, I'm only posting it so people know about it in case they're interested. If you aren't, then I don't understand why you're commenting as it's a non-issue for you.

I'm commenting because I find it weird that you make a distinction between two different ways of cheating. No point in doing busywork if the end result will be the same. Also, there's nothing unsafe about using console commands to add caps. It's exactly the same as picking up caps normally, as both methods just add them to your inventory. Or do you worry about game messing up every time you pick up items as well?

Dude, listen to my words! I never said I WAS WORRIED about using console commands, I was saying OTHER PEOPLE might be. Some people are not as tech savvy as you and I, and since Bethesda has cautioned that using console commands can mess up your save, some people will just choose to steer clear, so this is an alternative and relatively easy method if they wish to use it. I don't understand why you don't get what I'm saying even though I've spelled it out over and over for you. THIS IS NOT FOR ME! I'm simply posting it so people know it exists should they choose to utilize it. I and many other people already knew about using console commands to add caps, so continually bringing that up is pointless. Besides all that, the main purpose was to expose the bug so the developers know about it. I prefer not to cheat at all, so I am not planning to use ANY method of getting extra caps that wasn't designed to be there. I only did this to test the glitch and see if it could be reproduced.

[Nergui]

A note about adding caps with the console. It's the same command the game scripts use to reward you for quest completion. Basically, any reward you get is triggered by a script using the "player.additem <code> <number>" command. Exploiting a glitch is far more likely to screw your save game than most console commands.

Pete Hines made that statement just to remind people that Bethedsa cannot be held accountable for people using the console and anything that goes wrong is their own fault.

There are commands that can screw up your saves, but getting yourself educated in what console commands can do and not do and what can go wrong will allow you to avoid breaking your game.