The Crater of Atom

[Valyus]

I was really pumped to get there, only to find out it was pointless. Seriously? Children of Atom and no high end gear or boss to face? Consider me disappointed, Bethesda.

[TSP]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από The Digital Monster:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Rumpelstilzchen:

What were you wearing at the time?

T-60b set. Even without the armor (quicksaved to test) it was still a pitiful amount of rads considering the location.

I'm also playing on survival. No rad resist perks, level 34. No specific rad resist gear (Like hazmat suit). I could move to the crater with the mysterious serum (If you don't know what that is, don't spoil it for yourself). Once there and waiting for the serum to run out, radaway wasn't enough to keep me alive.

Perhaps some rad resist perks would work though.



But think of it, ~210 years, wear no rad protection and you're still dead in mere minutes. This is extremely severe if you try comparing it with real life scenario's.

[Aluminum Elite Master]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Pootispenser:

I'm also playing on survival. No rad resist perks, level 34. No specific rad resist gear (Like hazmat suit). I could move to the crater with the mysterious serum (If you don't know what that is, don't spoil it for yourself). Once there and waiting for the serum to run out, radaway wasn't enough to keep me alive.

Perhaps some rad resist perks would work though.

But think of it, ~210 years, wear no rad protection and you're still dead in mere minutes. This is extremely severe if you try comparing it with real life scenario's.

Fully agree with this: Chernobyl is already lush with wildlife... Hiroshima and Nagasaki are habitable cities of hundreds of thousands of people again.

Even assuming that in 2077 a nuclear meltdown or whatever is far more potent via dealing with more potent tech and uranium/plutonium/etc., it just seems unlikely that over two centuries would pass and the area would be so heavily irradiated. Especially so because there are areas of zero radiation only a couple miles away.

I absolutely love the concept of the Glowing Sea, and it makes for great gameplay, but it doesn't seem very plausible. Then again, lots of stuff in FO has always been highly unlikely: computers that still run after 200 years and even still have files and memory from before the war... roads that still have pavement to them despite being out in currently uninhabited areas... unmaintained pre-war buildings that have massive structural damage from the blast yet are standing 200 years later.

Personally, I've grown to love the implausibility of FO, especially because FO embraces it with its zany, 1950's-era tone.

But, yeah, the way radiation works is often one area where I sort of can't wrap my head around it. I mean, the Atlantic coast's water all along the map is irradiated after 200 years? And the Glowing Sea exists? Just more FO implausibility!

[Fuhrer]

I was kind of peeved to learn that, despite being such a cool area, there is absolutely NOTHING of value or interest in the glowing sea.

Not a damned thing.

Well, other than the enemies. Got to watch a legendary alpha deathclaw and legendary albino radscorpion throw down.

[magickmynd]

I was also a bit disappointed in the Glowing Sea and the Children of Atom. I was hoping for some cool sidequests or neat areas to explore, but the most I've found were some downed airplanes, the crater (where there is nothing to do) and a partially buried Red Rocket station. A neat idea, and I like the radiation storms, but overall unless some DLC does something with the area it was a bit of a letdown :\

[Brechnor]

If you really want to be picky... the glowing sea isn't ground zero, the bomb fell in the south east and not the south west ;)

Also, it's super easy to go through on survival in Tshirts. All you need is a stack of radaway and Rad X, oh and skills to not get swatted but that's all, power armor or rad suit isn't needed with chems (even chems without skill extensions).

It's more likely that the radiation of the bomb the wanderer saw did clear up already, as the south east is relatively teeming with life.

The south west has to be a more recent unexplained nuke... and we know people in the common wealth just love playing with nukes on a regular basis. Which makes a ton of sense at is is a religious zealot site for children of the 'atom'.

[ƒractured | Ʀaptor]

South of the Witchcraft Museum is a lighthouse. All I can say is go to it and see what you find, you'll be surprised. I thought the calm and peaceful people at the crater was how the Atom cult behaved. Not!

[bugdacious]

the whole area is something of a let down, but I guess we can chalk that up to it being where the nuke hit, obliterating any cool retro bits.

And then there's the "fridge logic"
You get there on the mainline quest to visit someone hiding from the institute, but Nick tells you that he's an ideal companion for the area _because_ he is a synth.

[Morrandir]

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Just go Deathclaw hunting in the Glowing Sea.


Trust me.You will one day find a Legendary Deathclaw and die horribly.

a stupid vertibird pilot dropped me on top of one in the glowing sea and then flew off while I was sprinting for my life. if I ever find that pilot!...

[iSuBvZerOi]

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Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Speciation:

Well the nuke blew up 210 years ago so the rads lessened.

It's still ground zero.

Well we dropped bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki about 70 years ago and there is little radiation there today, hell there is technically slight radiotion in the whole world you will never see a Geiger counter reading 0.00

[Mr_Faorry]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από The Digital Monster:

I'm just mostly talking about the actual crater itself. You'd think the rads would be off the scale. Nope. You'd also think the best of the best loot would be there or something.

why would the best gear be there?, it's where a bomb went off.
and from a gameplay point of view, you could just go there right away and take the best items in the game, when you've just left the vault.
Also, it's been over 200 years, the radiation would have died down a fair bit in that time.

[White Knight]

I totally get your point OP. I found the Glowing Sea to be underwhelming as well.

Legendary Deathskull Radscorpions and Albino Deathclaws do not make the journey seem worthwhile. My power armour made me virtually invulnerable to any environmental damage and I got by with just a handful of Radaways. I thought it was going to be like that Super Mutant camp in FO3 where you couldn't pump enough RadX and Radaway to survive long enough to run away.

[Brechnor]

I think people keep forgetting that every one in this game is nuclear happy like a kid at christmas, as long as every one keeps dropping bombs the rads will never go away.

:P

[B.O.S.]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από The Digital Monster:

The Crater of Atom ... Consider me disappointed, Bethesda.

Not a bad place imo.

The magazine to grab there is useful.

And it is easy to pockpicket a lot of gama rounds (rare and exp.) from those dudes... if something goes wrong, np, they are not needed for anything else.

[EXPLODENSTEIN]

Yeah, I agree OP. I would have liked to see a bit more there. I like where they were going with it and I was kind of hoping something along the lines of Dead Money. Maybe a future DLC.

[Dr.Abscondus]

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Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από The Digital Monster:

It's still ground zero.

Well we dropped bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki about 70 years ago and there is little radiation there today, hell there is technically slight radiotion in the whole world you will never see a Geiger counter reading 0.00

The bombs dropped on Japan were tiny compared to those that came later in the 1950's. The largest bomb ever tested, the Russian 'Tsar' bomb yielded 50 Megatons which is roughly 3000 times the yield of the Hiroshima bomb. On the other hand, if a bomb that size had been dropped on Boston there would have been nothing standing within a 25 mile radius of ground zero. In other words Fallout 4 is a game, does not relate to the real world and should be accepted as is.
People have the idea that nuclear war is survivable because of the bombs dropped on Japan. That's all we've seen. The Tsar bomb scared the Russians (and the US) so much that they never tested such a weapon again and probably was key to the Nuclear Test Ban Treaty signed 2 years later. As an interesting aside, the Tsar bomb was a multistage device in which a fission bomb (Atom bomb ie Hiroshima) is used to initiate a fusion blast (H Bomb). Very likely what North Korea recently attempted and failed to do only ending up with fission bit detonating.