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Fallout 4 Metascore by players is 5.3?!
I think people being harsh on Bethesda. Fallout 4 is a role-playing game with fps elements which is criticized by the most of the players.. Despite this metascore mark by players, I see people liked Fallout 4 more then GTA V. Thx to Steam stats i see that Fallout 4 had more players then Dota 2 (:d2bloodseeker: :d2antimage:) and CS:GO (:csgogun:) for sometime and now Fallout 4 is in the 3rd most played game in the list. It is a big achievement in my opinion. I'd like to hear the community's opinion ^^
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razdaz 2015年11月22日 10時57分 
ʑΞɳآʈḩʇЪ EN en ES の投稿を引用:
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Three groups of people on metacritic.

1) Those who downvote/hate on games, giving them 0-1/10 even if they don't own the game.
2) Those who like the games and don't say anything because they are easy playing said game.
3) Those who like the games but post their scores anyway.

As a result, there is a massive bias to the hateful side. The vocal minority who hate are much louder because the majority are busy enjoying the game. This is particularly pertinent to many big titles, CoD for example.


Textures are really bad comparing to Witcher 3 and other games released this year.. why can't Betheseda make some nice textures and good animations with all money?? I'm really disappointed after all hype

Rated it 10/10.


Bad: blurry textures that are about the same quality as vanilla Skyrim, dialogue options are constructed the same way for all chats, occasional stuttering.

Good: story, quests, crafting and town building, balance at highet difficulty.

Amazing: atmosphere, music, world design and details, ability to use power armor, gameplay overal.

Rated it 10/10

And people complain about the 0/10's...

Doesn't matter how many people rate it 10/10 until they outnumber those giving it a zero. There are easily way more people who enjoy this game than those that don't since you don't really hear from them, they just play the game and don't post any opinions online. Rarely, you hear positive feedback from players as its mostly negative.
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Textures are really bad comparing to Witcher 3 and other games released this year.. why can't Betheseda make some nice textures and good animations with all money?? I'm really disappointed after all hype

Rated it 10/10.


Bad: blurry textures that are about the same quality as vanilla Skyrim, dialogue options are constructed the same way for all chats, occasional stuttering.

Good: story, quests, crafting and town building, balance at highet difficulty.

Amazing: atmosphere, music, world design and details, ability to use power armor, gameplay overal.

Rated it 10/10

And people complain about the 0/10's...

Doesn't matter how many people rate it 10/10 until they outnumber those giving it a zero. There are easily way more people who enjoy this game than those that don't since you don't really hear from them, they just play the game and don't post any opinions online. Rarely, you hear positive feedback from players as its mostly negative.


Except, you know, for the previous Fallout game

http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/fallout-new-vegas

OK, time for food. It's been fun and I'll be back later. Stay safe!
最近の変更はʑΞɳآʈḩʇЪ [Cancer Stg 4]が行いました; 2015年11月22日 11時03分
Bergman 2015年11月22日 11時01分 
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Thx to Steam stats i see that Fallout 4 had more players then Dota 2 (:d2bloodseeker: :d2antimage:) and CS:GO (:csgogun:) for sometime and now Fallout 4 is in the 3rd most played game in the list. It is a big achievement in my opinion. I'd like to hear the community's opinion ^^

lolwut? CS:GO is three years old and at this exact second, has an additional three hundred thousand players in game over FO4.

Well, its CS:GO. One of the most popular fps game there is out there. It will have the same or even more player playing that game in 10 years from now. If not, its because they rls'd a new CS. But apperently they're just gonna continue updating this installment. So yeah.. Talking about CS in "timeline" is just stupid when its a game that is and has always been timeless.

So for fallout to even come close to CS:GO in player base is a HUGE achievement. Atleast seeing that FO4 is actually a single player game, with at the moment a rather limited replayability. Tho, that will improve with time when dlc's and mods becomes a factor.
Because your average person has no idea how to fairly rate something. The same people who come on the forum and complain because it runs like crap on their ♥♥♥♥♥♥ 5 year old laptop can put in their valuable input on metacritic. Also if you're being rational you can't just rate the game a zero or a one because you don't like it's FPS mechanics, there is more than just that aspect to consider.

Fact is, most people just have no clue who to objectively evaluate something and most are moved to rate something when it makes them angry. If you're having fun you'd rather keep doing it than go wave your epeen around.


I just make it a point to ignore any rating below a four or five. Less than that the person is probably just venting while they are angry. Not many games are TRULY that bad.
最近の変更はBoogieManが行いました; 2015年11月22日 11時04分
Bergman 2015年11月22日 11時04分 
BirdOfPray の投稿を引用:
I think people being harsh on Bethesda. Fallout 4 is a role-playing game with fps elements which is criticized by the most of the players.. Despite this metascore mark by players, I see people liked Fallout 4 more then GTA V. Thx to Steam stats i see that Fallout 4 had more players then Dota 2 (:d2bloodseeker: :d2antimage:) and CS:GO (:csgogun:) for sometime and now Fallout 4 is in the 3rd most played game in the list. It is a big achievement in my opinion. I'd like to hear the community's opinion ^^

Metacritic usally gets review bombed by bots. So dont even bother watching there.

User reviews:Very Positive (31,124 reviews) Pretty much sums up all you need to know for the game here @ Steam.
Game ratings are still subjective. I rated it a 9.3 on Steam. This was based not on old fallouts, or past TES games. Rather the stand alone fun factor. It is a bit high, I realy like the art in game so it raises the graphics score or it would have been lower. I had no bugs, had I it would have been lower. My score is not important, I told folks what I liked, and what I thought was controvesial so they can at least know not everyone will like it. I feel it was not a BS review. I am biased, it is unavoidable. Still a 0 would mean the game never came out. Anyone rating a game a 0 should be IP banned from Metacritic. I do not make the rules though. At least I am not a shill for one side or the other.(mostly cause no one payed me, not saying I would not accept payment, every one is has the ability to be maniupulated if the price is right.) You cannot objecivy review a game. You can try and score each part of a game and then avg them but subjectivnes then gives you the wieght of each catigory, or even if you just avg all the score at the same wieght it is subjective.
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It,s a letdown, for all the hype and time they had to make the game, they didn't do much. Choices are barely meaningful, aligning / helping a faction doesn't really have any impact in the game. It,s story driven.

Sure it's a good game, but it didn't live up to expectations.

Hopefully the DLCs are good.

This sums it up, though I could write pages about it easily. I don't have much faith for the DLCs, but I'm happy to be proven wrong.

The gameplay is fun, scavving was never as rewarding, I love hunting collectibles, I love the Vault-Boy animations on the Perk Chart, I actually like the new Perk system, and I love the sheer variety is useable builds.

But it falls so flat in the RP areas that it makes most things feel dull and almost pointless. You basically have to play someone else's character, and to me, that's the opposite of what makes Fallout great in the first place.

I don't care how good the combat is (and it is) - without great NPC interaction and dialogue choices, the game literally becomes "Go here, kill him, go there, kill them. Oh, and build a little I guess." They got a lot right, but they gutted the entire RP experience for a weak, cliche, on-rails story that has awful dialogue in general.

I could go on and on and on, but I should stop here.
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It,s a letdown, for all the hype and time they had to make the game, they didn't do much. Choices are barely meaningful, aligning / helping a faction doesn't really have any impact in the game. It,s story driven.

Sure it's a good game, but it didn't live up to expectations.

Hopefully the DLCs are good.

This sums it up, though I could write pages about it easily. I don't have much faith for the DLCs, but I'm happy to be proven wrong.

The gameplay is fun, scavving was never as rewarding, I love hunting collectibles, I love the Vault-Boy animations on the Perk Chart, I actually like the new Perk system, and I love the sheer variety is useable builds.

But it falls so flat in the RP areas that it makes most things feel dull and almost pointless. You basically have to play someone else's character, and to me, that's the opposite of what makes Fallout great in the first place.

I don't care how good the combat is (and it is) - without great NPC interaction and dialogue choices, the game literally becomes "Go here, kill him, go there, kill them. Oh, and build a little I guess." They got a lot right, but they gutted the entire RP experience for a weak, cliche, on-rails story that has awful dialogue in general.

I could go on and on and on, but I should stop here.

So Thereddish gave it 9.3, you said that. Who's right?

Unless the 9.3 was out of 100? That would make more sense I guess...
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So Thereddish gave it 9.3, you said that. Who's right?

Unless the 9.3 was out of 100? That would make more sense I guess...

What?

to OP: Steam stats of activity are pretty irrelevant. Active players now doesn't tell you how many of those you have now turned away from anticipating DLC or Fallout 5. I certainly don't care at all anymore, and this has been my favorite series for nearly 20 years.
最近の変更はTired of your crapが行いました; 2015年11月22日 11時31分
It's a great open world, post apocalyptic FPS, but that's what it is. It's no more an RPG than GTA V or Red Dead Redemption. Yes, you get perks that let you pick higher level locks or do more damage with your assault rifle, but that's it. There's no "role" to "play" here, you're johnny soldier or his wife and you're a decent bloke/girl and that's it. Want to "role play" a bad guy? Tough, want to "role play" a selfish git, indifferent to the plight of everybody else? Tough, want to "role play" the good guy who always lends a hand? Yeah, we got you covered because that's the only "role" you're going to "play". It's not an RPG in the fallout sense, at all. It's more STALKER than Fallout. Not a bad "game" by any stretch of the imagination, but it's a huge departure from it's Fallout roots.
People are missing the question posed by this thread: Why are users complaining while they keep playing the game so much?

I'm sort of intrigued by the comments about "user scores are unreliable"...Well, Reviewer scores certainly ARE reliable, in the sense of Will Rogers' comment about politicians: "An honest politician is a fellow who, once he's bought...he stays bought".

Re Users panning the game however...the overwhelming reason for users expressing displeasure thus far is NOT complaints with storyline or gameplay style but rather with the game's mechanics. Which are broken. Very.

Image yourself buying a new uber-widescreen HDTV, then learning it doesn't pick up half the channels you want, has lousy graphics, powers off half way through your fav soaps and sounds like Phylllis Diller on steroids...then having the dealer say "yeah, its a fixer-upper for sure, uh...maybe you should have someone look into that for ya..."

slugmite の投稿を引用:
People are missing the question posed by this thread: Why are users complaining while they keep playing the game so much?

I'm sort of intrigued by the comments about "user scores are unreliable"...Well, Reviewer scores certainly ARE reliable, in the sense of Will Rogers' comment about politicians: "An honest politician is a fellow who, once he's bought...he stays bought".

Re Users panning the game however...the overwhelming reason for users expressing displeasure thus far is NOT complaints with storyline or gameplay style but rather with the game's mechanics. Which are broken. Very.

Image yourself buying a new uber-widescreen HDTV, then learning it doesn't pick up half the channels you want, has lousy graphics, powers off half way through your fav soaps and sounds like Phylllis Diller on steroids...then having the dealer say "yeah, its a fixer-upper for sure, uh...maybe you should have someone look into that for ya..."

Terrible analogy....
Metylan の投稿を引用:
Metascore, where every random scum can register and Rate a game ...

Metascore, where every random (PERSON) can register and rate a game (OPINIONS)
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Metylan の投稿を引用:
Metascore, where every random scum can register and Rate a game ...

Metascore, where every random (PERSON) can register and rate a game (OPINIONS)

Metascore, where ever random (PERSON) can make multiple accounts, register and rate a game a 0. (OPINIONS)
Meta"score" is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. However, reading the reviews done by people willing to put time and effort into describing what works or doesn't work in a game is well worth doing and in that sense, metacritic is invaluable, as is the reviews page on steam. Ignore the numbers, read the words.
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