Fallout 4 Pre war america

[FallenHeroes]

Is it just me or does it seems very short which is good ,but very bad because you don't really get the feel of the whole lost aspect of society at that time. I really think they should have taken us on a spin of prewar america have us see a few of the site before the bombs and then run to the shelter. This is just me ,but I think they could have pushed it a bit more to really build up to the whole world is ending. if they had us move a bit out we could have seen some of these story lines of what at war america was really like and hear some of the paranoia of the times. In stead of reading from a computer terminal in game. We are the Man or Woman out of time we should have seen these things that made up america at the time.

What does everyone else think?

[Zef]

But you know what is it like, it's 1950's america with goofy nuclear technology.

And no , the intro tutorial is long enough, i want to skip that anyways.

I'd rather have a fallout movie.

[FallenHeroes]

Good insight. Well think of it this way first time through is a play through and then once through its skip able. I have played all the fallouts so i know what its like ,but to new players it will give a quick run down on the world events other than just at war , bombs are falling, and run to the shelter. I agree on some of the points you made.

[JordanU]

I agree, and it really could have benefited the game and players if you got to see more of pre-war Boston. It would let the players connect more to Nate and Shaun, and make the experiences with these characters more impactful.

[Ensign]

Youtubers hyped that part as did fallout fans. PREWAR AMERICA!!! OMG GUYS!

They could have built up the prewar but since your the only survivor (and since they spoiled that at E3) nothing would have mattered. Your relationships with neighbors, parents, friends, what life was like. There would never be time to explore any of that since you don on a new persona as you play, general, freedomfighter, paladin. None of the prewar stuff would have mattered after all that, few of us would remember too.

I expected alot more from the hyped prewar but im glad its short.

I seen the trailer before the game cameout and you can clearly see just how linear it all was when you look and see that cars have blocked the road. The way the FO4 fans theorized made me think it was going to be a whole tutorial around that neighborhood.

Combat for examlpe could have had you using a broom to hit rats out of a nieghbor's basement, get rewarded with nukacolas and other items teaching you how to use them. Go grocery shopping with codsworth and learn about the companion system by telling him to pick up litter around the nighborhood. Hangout with your wife and learn the benefits of a spouse while establishing her backstory so that when she dies we actually care about her or our son.

Looking back though now that im actually playing im glad it was brief. It would have been cute if it was as good as i described or better, but thats all it would be......cute. In the end its not about prewar and if it was it could never be even 1/100th the size of the post war so i guess it would have been a waste. Settlement play is half finished as is, imagine the chaos of more time spent prewar with less fixes and features on everything else.

I guess its alot like the elderscrolls dungeons, i dont wish it was long so i could actually grow to hate my captors or care about the political people keeping me in prison or rescuing me. In the end im gonna mod it out so i can just get to the game already.

[Madhouse]

I hate the pre war part, it's nothing like what was described. Where were the riots and the starving people.

[McKnuckles]

Originally posted by Madhouse:

I hate the pre war part, it's nothing like what was described. Where were the riots and the starving people.

Because the player character seemed to live in a area that was rather well off.

[Madhouse]

Originally posted by McKnuckles:

Originally posted by Madhouse:

I hate the pre war part, it's nothing like what was described. Where were the riots and the starving people.

Because the player character seemed to live in a area that was rather well off.

Except the rich people were just as bad off as the poor people.

[McKnuckles]

Originally posted by Madhouse:

Originally posted by McKnuckles:

Because the player character seemed to live in a area that was rather well off.

Except the rich people were just as bad off as the poor people.

They also didn't seem to be in a overly populated area so there is that too.

[FallenHeroes]

Originally posted by Ensign:

Youtubers hyped that part as did fallout fans. PREWAR AMERICA!!! OMG GUYS!

They could have built up the prewar but since your the only survivor (and since they spoiled that at E3) nothing would have mattered. Your relationships with neighbors, parents, friends, what life was like. There would never be time to explore any of that since you don on a new persona as you play, general, freedomfighter, paladin. None of the prewar stuff would have mattered after all that, few of us would remember too.

I expected alot more from the hyped prewar but im glad its short.

I seen the trailer before the game cameout and you can clearly see just how linear it all was when you look and see that cars have blocked the road. The way the FO4 fans theorized made me think it was going to be a whole tutorial around that neighborhood.

Combat for examlpe could have had you using a broom to hit rats out of a nieghbor's basement, get rewarded with nukacolas and other items teaching you how to use them. Go grocery shopping with codsworth and learn about the companion system by telling him to pick up litter around the nighborhood. Hangout with your wife and learn the benefits of a spouse while establishing her backstory so that when she dies we actually care about her or our son.

Looking back though now that im actually playing im glad it was brief. It would have been cute if it was as good as i described or better, but thats all it would be......cute. In the end its not about prewar and if it was it could never be even 1/100th the size of the post war so i guess it would have been a waste. Settlement play is half finished as is, imagine the chaos of more time spent prewar with less fixes and features on everything else.

I guess its alot like the elderscrolls dungeons, i dont wish it was long so i could actually grow to hate my captors or care about the political people keeping me in prison or rescuing me. In the end im gonna mod it out so i can just get to the game already.

understood i agree that it was overhyped a bit. I also think the whole quest idea of in pre war america would be completly stupid and pointless like you said , but thats is not what i was going for i was going for the built to the end see sanctuary and a bit out from there maybe to the vets ball idk just for the build aspect of the game and follow the relationship between the husband wife and child. To really play on the idea of family. it would be pointless to older players and ones that have been through it many times. but i really think they flopped a bit on the whole idea of what america was before the bombs fell they really tried to sell us on it and i think overall they failed. It just feels to me like you as the player have no attachments to before other than the storyline. i agree on some of the ponts you made but for our first time into the game it would have been better to see more before just destroying it all. I guess i wished they would have had the main character say more of what pre war america was like. for example got to where the vets ball was supposed to be and the main character having some kind of remark to comparing the old world to the new . I think i got on a tangent but i just wish they had a little bit more in the beginning.

[Nichtswisser]

Yes, apart from it kind of conflicting with Fallout lore. They should have given that part more time. Which would also have translated into more time with your family to maybe create some kind of bond. I mean as it is who cares about the wife/husband or the child?

Something simply like a birthday party in the garden with some neighbors for example would likely already have sufficed. That would have given more time to develop a bond with the family.
They could also have added some dialogue with the neighbors allowing the player to learn something about the pre-war world.

And to not annoy people doing a second playthrough they could have made that part skippable.

[McKnuckles]

Originally posted by Nichtswisser:

Yes, apart from it kind of conflicting with Fallout lore. They should have given that part more time. Which would also have translated into more time with your family to maybe create some kind of bond. I mean as it is who cares about the wife/husband or the child?

Something simply like a birthday party in the garden with some neighbors for example would likely already have sufficed. That would have given more time to develop a bond with the family.
They could also have added some dialogue with the neighbors allowing the player to learn something about the pre-war world.

And to not annoy people doing a second playthrough they could have made that part skippable.

I always keep a save after the intro right before you start your journey. That way I can make a new character with ease.

[FallenHeroes]

Don't get me wrong i like the game and i think its fun to play but i feel it lacks in many departments of Bonds, Romance, build ,and many more. At times it feels kinda of like a flop in the beginning and through out the game making it feel like a mess. there seems to be little connection to the world before the bombs fell to the main protagonist. he says nothing if not a few specs of his life in the pre world america. I want to know how he lived through the war in alaska and how he felt about it ,but there is nothing of the sort in the game.

I understand how limitation would have limited the games build but to actually get the feel and the relationship of your character to the pre war america. you kinda have to have the build in there to keep new and i guess old players hooked to the game.

[bumpboy23703]

Sounds like cool idea for a mod (pre intro mod where you can go shopping)

[Smkn-G1]

Originally posted by McKnuckles:

Originally posted by Nichtswisser:

Yes, apart from it kind of conflicting with Fallout lore. They should have given that part more time. Which would also have translated into more time with your family to maybe create some kind of bond. I mean as it is who cares about the wife/husband or the child?

Something simply like a birthday party in the garden with some neighbors for example would likely already have sufficed. That would have given more time to develop a bond with the family.
They could also have added some dialogue with the neighbors allowing the player to learn something about the pre-war world.

And to not annoy people doing a second playthrough they could have made that part skippable.

I always keep a save after the intro right before you start your journey. That way I can make a new character with ease.

Almost there! But you need to first make a face that you like, make sure you name that character save "Face_Template_(NAME)(###)" ie "Face_Template_Timmy001"... make a save just before you exit the vault (I did my save just before I pick up the pip boy so I get the cool animation and vault open sequence)... then when you exit the vault you rename the character!

[Smkn-G1]

Originally posted by bumpboy23703:

Sounds like cool idea for a mod (pre intro mod where you can go shopping)

An alternate start mod that alters the start without really altering the start. This man invested 10 points into intelligence, and I'm not making fun.

I liked the intro, your characters were shown to clearly care enough about each other that it made me want to care about them... it gave a short slice of pre-war life, a last minute decision that alters your fate... you get to see what starts it all.