Need dirty water to make noodles?

[Limouzine]

I'm sorry, but what? That makes no complete sense at all.

Why can't I use purified water along with dirty water? This makes no sense.

[Reprusu]

The reasoning is found in the flavor texts with NPCs and recipes around the wasteland. It's for added flavor.

[Jones]

because the devs made it so.

[IronSquid501]

dirty water is nigh impossible to find whereas you can find purified water at any settlement, along with razorgrain. purified water would make more sense and would also give you a nice source of food.

[Smakit]

Because noodles are gross.

I kid, I kid. The only... 'logical' reason I can think of is that it is supposedly easier to find/get the dirty water (and it takes 3 dirty -> 1 purified), so it is cheaper to make that way. They could have had an additional recipe, but likely didn't want to fill the list.

Regardless of the reason, I think a simple 'any water source' would be fine and it could drain the dirty water before moving onto purified. But what do I know? I never make them anyway, too many other easy beneficial recipes. =P

[Ashley]

Originally posted by Smakit:

Because noodles are gross.

I kid, I kid. The only... 'logical' reason I can think of is that it is supposedly easier to find/get the dirty water (and it takes 3 dirty -> 1 purified), so it is cheaper to make that way. They could have had an additional recipe, but likely didn't want to fill the list.

Regardless of the reason, I think a simple 'any water source' would be fine and it could drain the dirty water before moving onto purified. But what do I know? I never make them anyway, too many other easy beneficial recipes. =P

Noodles are actually gross

[Athywren]

It probably would make more sense to just have it take [x] water with a preference for dirty if in your inventory. Make it like a hidden junk thing - dirty/purified water break down to water and go in that way.

I guess they use dirty water primarily because it's much easier to find dirty water in a wasteland environment, and you're usually going to be boiling it in the cooking process anyway so it should be clean enough afterward. Still... blech.

[Limouzine]

Here's the funny thing though. You get more purified water more than dirty water. Because settlements generate most of the purified water you need.

It would've made more sense if the settlements generated dirty water instead. Because you can just craft 3 dirty water to get purified water if you wanted it to be purified.

[Smakit]

That's a fair point. Also codsworth hands the stuff out. Represu mentioned lore/flavor, so there may be that going for it, but I'd rather either work. Who knows, maybe because purified is so common they felt it was balancing to make it more difficult to get?

I doubt that though, as you get absolute craploads of cooked/grilled/whatever'd meats from all the baddies. Ah well =P

[Limouzine]

Originally posted by Smakit:

That's a fair point. Also codsworth hands the stuff out. Represu mentioned lore/flavor, so there may be that going for it, but I'd rather either work. Who knows, maybe because purified is so common they felt it was balancing to make it more difficult to get?

I doubt that though, as you get absolute craploads of cooked/grilled/whatever'd meats from all the baddies. Ah well =P

Well I encounter raiders more often than I encounter wasteland animals. So meat is always in short supply on my end.

[Morgalad]

Well I'd say, in a wasteland, purified water usually is harder to come by while dirty water can usually be purified by heating it. Aslo you wouldn't be moving around all day with 20 bottles full of water while carrying guns,change of clothes... you'd probably carry around 2 or 3 bottles at most. Considering dirty water would purify during the process of making the noodles the best way to go about it would probably be doing that. That way you'd still have your cool purified water to drink in case you need it.

[Limouzine]

Originally posted by S4ndm4n:

Well I'd say, in a wasteland, purified water usually is harder to come by while dirty water can usually be purified by heating it. Aslo you wouldn't be moving around all day with 20 bottles full of water while carrying guns,change of clothes... you'd probably carry around 2 or 3 bottles at most. Considering dirty water would purify during the process of making the noodles the best way to go about it would probably be doing that. That way you'd still have your cool purified water to drink in case you need it.

Well that would've been more true if I had to worry about thirst. Which I don't since this game lacks a "hardcore" mode like from New Vegas.

But I'm not complaining since I never did care about the hardcore mode.

[Auron]

Originally posted by GuardianStriker:

Here's the funny thing though. You get more purified water more than dirty water. Because settlements generate most of the purified water you need.

It would've made more sense if the settlements generated dirty water instead. Because you can just craft 3 dirty water to get purified water if you wanted it to be purified.

The progression in this game is so messed up, and I think that is the general consensus not just my opinion. Getting such good stuff so early on like the minigun, power armor, laser musket ect. The "unlimited" supply of "purified" water is just icing on the cake. Just imagine if there was hardcore mode they would have to disable settlement benefits like water and food. This game would be a joke as far as surviving. I totally agree that regardless of having hardcore mode or not they should have made the settlements produce dirty water only at low levels and after you have some perk or reached a high enough level, then you can produce purified water. What is the point of dirty water after the first half hour of play when you are asked to build a water source as part of the main settlement tutorial quest? Mabey if you take the ghoulish perk or if you have lead belly then it gives you a minor benefit. Because of the way the settlements are, the only use for dirty water now is a rare and precious crafting ingredient, with purified water being as common as scrap metal, lol.

[Fuhrer]

http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/2122/?

[Uzi [OTG]]

Yah, I was about to post about that mod. I went ahead and snagged it earlier today in case I decide to use it.

In this version Fallout dirty water is uncommon, just the opposite of prior Fallout titles.
Odd huh?

I think the devs reasoning is thus:
Look, these here soups and what not are Over Powered.
We can't just have them using common mats.
Uh oh, we have all this purified water.
Quick. make it use dirty water and switch tables so dirty water is rare.

Problem solved, on to next developer game issue.

I do have to say, at level 26 with my character, I have so much food in inventory
I have to leave more than half in a ice box. I can't eat or munch all I lug around already.

Same situation was in FO3 and NV though by time you played it for long.
That is why survival mods get made in time.

It is a aspect of the game they didnt' fully think out or vet in actual game practice, and
they just managed to make it worse than in the prior titles.
Go figure.

[copperzinc]

if you are in a settlement with purified water, why are you making noodles? Wouldn't it be more economical just buy noodle cup from dealer and sell them back the mat? It's not like you get XP from cooking...

About purified water, I assume this is due to tech advancement since project purity 10 years ago...