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BHammer Nov 20, 2015 @ 11:24am
A plothole in the Vault 111's story (spoiler for the beggining of the game)
So in Vault 111 you discover some notes and log entires that tell you that the staff of Vault 111 ran out of food, which eventually resulted into them turning against each other and all of them dying. This makes sense, the All-Clear never came (was it even supposed to ? dont think Vault Tec really planned on it), supplies ran out.

But !
What about the few dozens of people frozen in the cryo ?
If you look at this from purely a survival perspective, this is a perfectly good food supply...
yet none of the frozen "residents" was eaten.
Pretty sure at least some of the Vault 111's staff would resort to cannibalism to survive.
Is this explained why none of them did, or is this indeed a minor plothole ?
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JonWoo Nov 20, 2015 @ 11:25am 
I'm guessing before they got to that point they all killed each other.
Saph Nov 20, 2015 @ 11:27am 
Well I can't speak for an entire security and lab staff, but I know I would rather die than resort to cannibalism. It's not really a plothole considering that cannibals aren't even mentioned in the plot at all. In the lore yes, but not in the plot.

Also, you are playing a videogame made by Bethesda.
BHammer Nov 20, 2015 @ 11:27am 
Originally posted by Jonwoo89:
I'm guessing before they got to that point they all killed each other.
But that is very strange, how come they all have died if it was security staff vs the overseer and scientists ? Security staff should not have problems overwhelming the scientists...even if they armed themselves. This should have been explained in some other way in-game imo...unless it is an I missed it.
BHammer Nov 20, 2015 @ 11:28am 
Originally posted by Sniper King:
Well I can't speak for an entire security and lab staff, but I know I would rather die than resort to cannibalism. It's not really a plothole considering that cannibals aren't even mentioned in the plot at all. In the lore yes, but not in the plot.

Also, you are playing a videogame made by Bethesda.
Neither of those are valid arguments...the precise fact that cannibalism is not mentioned while it should makes it a plot hole.
ethanjory Nov 20, 2015 @ 11:28am 
I assume the only ones with the knowledge to extract any of them from the cryo pods would be the scientists, and I'm fairly certain that they'd be the first ones to go, if you pit them against the security. Honestly, it's such an insignificant possibility that it isn't really a plothole.
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Tyrant Nov 20, 2015 @ 11:34am 
i can see it now

we can open the door and go outside or we can open up one of these giant frozen tv dinners?
want leg or wing?
JonWoo Nov 20, 2015 @ 11:35am 
Originally posted by Blackhammer:
Originally posted by Jonwoo89:
I'm guessing before they got to that point they all killed each other.
But that is very strange, how come they all have died if it was security staff vs the overseer and scientists ? Security staff should not have problems overwhelming the scientists...even if they armed themselves. This should have been explained in some other way in-game imo...unless it is an I missed it.

Why should they not have problems overwhelming them if the scientists were armed? Vault security in these games defnitely isn't top of the line and it's even stated they don't have any experience and they're crap at combat situations.

And not really, not everything has to have a detailed explanation as to EVERYTHING that happened. You don't always get the full details for things and are left guessing or forming your own conclusions as to what happened based on the evidence. They sided up against each other and obviously people had firearms. I think it's easy to reach the conclusion that they just killed each other in that situation.
Ͽ҈҉Ͼ Nov 20, 2015 @ 11:35am 
Because the system was designed to thaw out everyone at once, and it wasn't known if people could be frozen and thawed repeatedly. Also, why thaw frozen meat when fresh meat is still walking around? There is also a logical misstep in turning to canabalism. Canabalism is only good for the short term, given that these people were looking at years and years in the vault when they were not given an all-clear, they would only be delaying the inevitable, and commiting an atoricty in vain.

There's also probably the part where they didn't want to completely change the tone of the first hour or so of the game to be even more dark than it is.
ImSexyAndiNOED Nov 20, 2015 @ 11:43am 
LOL, so now cannibalism is a plothole? Maybe they didn't like frozen food.
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Tyrant Nov 20, 2015 @ 11:46am 
Originally posted by skywalkr_00:
LOL, so now cannibalism is a plothole? Maybe they didn't like frozen food.

hell i dont like frozen food, i like people less :P
but i wonder did anyone actually leave the vault considdering you find just 1 pipboy inside pretty codvenient as it is but you see more staff with pipboys on the way in
Jirki88 Nov 20, 2015 @ 11:46am 
Talk about making a chicken farm out of a burnt feather.......
JonWoo Nov 20, 2015 @ 11:47am 
Originally posted by Tyrant:
Originally posted by skywalkr_00:
LOL, so now cannibalism is a plothole? Maybe they didn't like frozen food.

hell i dont like frozen food, i like people less :P
but i wonder did anyone actually leave the vault considdering you find just 1 pipboy inside pretty codvenient as it is but you see more staff with pipboys on the way in

I didn't notice people having them on the way in but I did wonder why there was only 1 on my way out. But then I realized I didn't care cuz it was time to pop the cork and kill some ghouls, raiders, and super mutants! :P
Tyrant Nov 20, 2015 @ 11:47am 
Originally posted by Jirki88:
Talk about making a chicken farm out of a burnt feather.......

dont tell them the feather is from a pigeon
Jake Nov 20, 2015 @ 11:47am 
Looking too much into it.
WLion Nov 20, 2015 @ 11:51am 
The focus was escape, not survival.
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