What is up with the BOS ranking system

[Jissc300]

The whole Knight to elder things is fine but What I don’t get is how is Nate able to get to sentinel without being there for long? I mean I love the titles but there are probably some people on the predwyn that are older and much more dedicated to the BoS than what Nate was.

[steventirey]

The same reason you can become the Minutemen general immediately, or the Overboss of 3 raider gangs. Or how you quickly become the leader of any of the Skyrim guilds. It is what the plot says happens - it doesn't have to make any sense at all. It is just how these sort of games work.

[Jissc300]

Oh yeah true lol

[Zekiran]

The player character >>>>> any realistic expectations >>>>> reality.

[Jissc300]

Nate is just him

[UsernameTaken666]

Welcome to gaming? It’s a game. Good luck if you want explanations of all you encounter.

[Draekus2]

by the way

[Draekus2]

did you know ?

[Draekus2]

that there's an Edit button ??

[SiegfraTithe]

Don't make sense of faction ranks in Fallout 4

You save Preston and create 4 beds for him and that is enough to become the leader of the minutemen

You save Danse's reconnaissance team and he promotes you to knight, after blind betrayal Maxson makes you a paladin and by destroying the institute you become second in command of Maxson's brotherhood of steel (even in the end of the minutemen originally You would also have the sentinel rank, this can still be done with a console code)

The railroad barely knows you and they have already turned you into a spy.

Shaun barely knows you after 60 years of his abduction and not knowing anything about Nate makes him the new leader of the institute once Shaun dies, it's so stupid to leave the future of humanity to a person you didn't know anything about until the end of your life and not someone you already knew

Kill the great leader Colter and you become the new leader of the raiders of Nuka World (although here Gage had already planned to kill Colter along with the other 3 factions of raiders)

[Zes]

same frustration but for sharing resources with 'friends'

you enter their bedroom and take everything they own. this is not friendship

[DouglasGrave]

Apart from all the factions apparently favouring performance over seniority, it's not like basing it on time served would be much of an option, since Bethesda's games use a variably deformed version of time as well as space, making everything advance at the speed of plot.

You could join the Brotherhood and spend literally years of time (as the in-game date/time on your Pipboy measures it) running around doing Brotherhood of Steel quests if you like. It just won't make any difference except to how you feel about it.

That said, the lore isn't as absurd as it might seem. The Minutemen are a shell that you help save from annihilation, and the Railroad is desperate enough to take an initial gamble on a promising candidate and then accept them only after they perform a relevant mission. As for the Brotherhood, while they eventually give you the rank of sentinel, it's not like they're assigning you a squad to lead; you are allowed to buy their services (including vertibird transport via signal grenades), and that's about it.

On the Brotherhood front, it's weirder how much they want you to help out with assembling Liberty Prime. Regardless of how impractical and unnecessary it is, the fact they give you any responsibility in helping to get Prime running says a lot more than the near-meaningless rank they assign you.

[NuclearSnail]

Originally posted by Jissc300:

The whole Knight to elder things is fine but What I don’t get is how is Nate able to get to sentinel without being there for long? I mean I love the titles but there are probably some people on the predwyn that are older and much more dedicated to the BoS than what Nate was.

I think the brotherhood of steel is an insane and destructive cult centered on hate and bigotry, and they just make crap up as they wish lol. "Want to be such and such rank? Ok sure. Why not, as long you do what you're told" kind of thing.

[socialmediaaddress3]

Actually even though I was never a fan of the Nuka World DLC comapred to Far harbor but I felt it WAS plausible how the plot explains your meteoric rise to Overboss and how you earn the gangs loyalty with results

[ureaditwrong]

To be fair, what exactly do the other BoS personnel do during the game? Nate basically solos the Institute with help from Liberty Prime.

Also, I'm pretty sure the rank of Sentinel basically just means spec ops commander. So even though Nate only answers to the Elder, he doesn't have any real power within the BoS, which is reflected in game. Plus, I think he is only Sentinel for that chapter, whereas higher ranking officials are back in DC.

[chakkman]

Originally posted by steventirey:

The same reason you can become the Minutemen general immediately, or the Overboss of 3 raider gangs.

The latter seems reasonable though. Raiders respect people who show their violent nature.

I'm also not surprised that you can quickly become general of the Minuteman, because you're basically the only one who does sh** for them.

The Brotherhood of Steel, yeah, maybe that's the faction which I'd expect the least to make someone unknown to them raise up high in their ranks. But, as has been said, if the game doesn't reward you, then people probably would be disappointed. 😉