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cool skill Sep 10, 2022 @ 6:47pm
How to get a consistent supply of clean food?
Is Noodle Cup or Vegetable Soup a good idea? I don't really know how this works.

I just started playing this the other day. Learning the ropes. Basically, I noticed clean food is quite scarce. And the Vault Dweller is a bit of a glutton.

I've been doing pretty decent for water. I managed to setup a Water Purifier in the river by the bridge.
https://i.imgur.com/GHBwTdw.png

I also made a small wood house with a decent bed. And Water Pump nearby. I guess it's clean water? So it really helps to have that to replenish my thirst. And fill up bottles.

Thus far, I've been doing OK with hunger management by cooking meat. However, it doesn't last very long. Since I always have to eat so much of food. I guess the second best source of food is from the different types of berries you can gather, which are 2 rad? But I'm trying to figure out a way to have a decent steady supply of clean food.

I haven't started farming yet. So I was thinking to try to find Razergrain, and start farming it. Therefore, I'll be able to make Noddle Cups. But I'm not totally sure about this. Because it requires dirty water. And I don't know of any way to get dirty water unless I find bottles. Will purified water work?

Similar idea about Vegetable Soup. Or is there any better way to get more consistent food? Thanks!
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B Maverick Sep 10, 2022 @ 7:00pm 
You don't really have to eat except to heal yourself. Food is mostly for settlers. But you can of course set up a farm for them to grow crops and set up a lot of water pumps. This will allow you to also take some extra food for yourself. You could use that to heal yourself. It's like a stimpack. Water pumps will give you clean water. You should have extra in your workbench. Above what the settlers use. You can use that or sell that.

Killing stuff and cooking it in the game will give you healing. Different ones to different degrees. It's great to conserve stimpacks. I mostly use food. I have huge numbers of stimpacks. I rarely use them.

Berries and flowers and things you gather are used in recipes mostly on the chemistry workbench. They make chems you use in the game which give you certain powers or healing or more Charisma or bargaining power. Many things. They make all kinds of things with the right recipe. Collect everything you can. Put it in your workbench.
Last edited by B Maverick; Sep 10, 2022 @ 7:04pm
cool skill Sep 10, 2022 @ 7:53pm 
Originally posted by B Maverick:
You don't really have to eat except to heal yourself.
This is simply false considering you have to eat fairly often. I didn't even really look at healing when it comes to eating. The entire point of the question is to get a consistent supply of food strictly for the sake of hunger. Since the cooked meat runs out fast. Nothing whatsoever to do with healing or settlers. Because yes you do have to eat in order to not get hungry.

This also applies to the constant need for water even more. I have been taking 8 bottles with me every time. This seems to be effective enough.
Last edited by cool skill; Sep 10, 2022 @ 8:05pm
B Maverick Sep 10, 2022 @ 8:06pm 
Originally posted by cool skill:
Originally posted by B Maverick:
You don't really have to eat except to heal yourself.
This is simply false considering you have to eat fairly often. I didn't even really look at healing when it comes to eating. The entire point of the question is to get a consistent supply of food strictly for the sake of hunger. Since the cooked meat runs out fast. Nothing whatsoever to do with healing or settlers. Because yes you do have to eat in order to not get hungry.

I mostly just eat to heal myself. It's like a stimpack. You can still play missions and level up for hundreds of hours without eating. If your status has a problem it's usually you need sleep or you have an addiction that needs to be cleared. Or an injury that needs to be healed.
wtiger27 Sep 10, 2022 @ 8:24pm 
Originally posted by cool skill:
Originally posted by B Maverick:
You don't really have to eat except to heal yourself.
This is simply false considering you have to eat fairly often. I didn't even really look at healing when it comes to eating. The entire point of the question is to get a consistent supply of food strictly for the sake of hunger. Since the cooked meat runs out fast. Nothing whatsoever to do with healing or settlers. Because yes you do have to eat in order to not get hungry.

This also applies to the constant need for water even more. I have been taking 8 bottles with me every time. This seems to be effective enough.

It is not false unless you are playing Survival.

I found stag meat to be pretty good. And there are several of those around in the game. Also dog meat. Molerates, etc.
Originally posted by B Maverick:
I mostly just eat to heal myself. It's like a stimpack. You can still play missions and level up for hundreds of hours without eating. If your status has a problem it's usually you need sleep or you have an addiction that needs to be cleared. Or an injury that needs to be healed.

LOL spotted the casual player. :cgrazz: :claugh:
B Maverick Sep 10, 2022 @ 8:42pm 
Originally posted by wtiger27:
Originally posted by cool skill:
This is simply false considering you have to eat fairly often. I didn't even really look at healing when it comes to eating. The entire point of the question is to get a consistent supply of food strictly for the sake of hunger. Since the cooked meat runs out fast. Nothing whatsoever to do with healing or settlers. Because yes you do have to eat in order to not get hungry.

This also applies to the constant need for water even more. I have been taking 8 bottles with me every time. This seems to be effective enough.

It is not false unless you are playing Survival.

I found stag meat to be pretty good. And there are several of those around in the game. Also dog meat. Molerates, etc.

So he's on survival mode. Which he didn't mention. Non survival mode you don't really have to eat.
If you want clean food, you can hunt Molerats, Radstags, mongrels, and mirelurks. It's far easier than it sounds since you don't have to travel far, and animals spawn in groups of 3 to 5. You can basically eat any of the animals and monsters in the game without getting irradiated.

But you shouldn't be afraid of a little radiation damage anyway, your health doesn't mean much in survival so if you lose a chunk of it by drinking from irradiated water sources and eating scavenged food it's no big deal, just pop a rad-X.
Blinkybubs Sep 10, 2022 @ 9:09pm 
Originally posted by cool skill:
Originally posted by B Maverick:
You don't really have to eat except to heal yourself.
This is simply false considering you have to eat fairly often. I didn't even really look at healing when it comes to eating. The entire point of the question is to get a consistent supply of food strictly for the sake of hunger. Since the cooked meat runs out fast. Nothing whatsoever to do with healing or settlers. Because yes you do have to eat in order to not get hungry.

This also applies to the constant need for water even more. I have been taking 8 bottles with me every time. This seems to be effective enough.

Take a couple ranks in the Lead Belly Perk.
steventirey Sep 10, 2022 @ 10:19pm 
Originally posted by B Maverick:
Originally posted by wtiger27:

It is not false unless you are playing Survival.

I found stag meat to be pretty good. And there are several of those around in the game. Also dog meat. Molerates, etc.

So he's on survival mode. Which he didn't mention. Non survival mode you don't really have to eat.

While he never said "survival mode", he did mention in the very first post replenishing thirst, filling up bottles, and hunger management. All things only found in survival mode.
Last edited by steventirey; Sep 10, 2022 @ 10:20pm
cool skill Sep 10, 2022 @ 10:43pm 
Originally posted by B Maverick:
I mostly just eat to heal myself. It's like a stimpack. You can still play missions and level up for hundreds of hours without eating. If your status has a problem it's usually you need sleep or you have an addiction that needs to be cleared. Or an injury that needs to be healed.
This is completely false. I have had to eat multiple times since it is a consistent mechanic of the game to have to eat. I have killed rad roaches and mole rats. And found a bit of other meat. All of it constantly depleted in order to eat for the sake of replenishing my hunger. So no it is not even possible to go through a full day without eating due to increasing hunger penalties. So definitely not 100 hours.


Originally posted by -🗲 Archie 🗲-:
If you want clean food, you can hunt Molerats, Radstags, mongrels, and mirelurks. It's far easier than it sounds since you don't have to travel far, and animals spawn in groups of 3 to 5. You can basically eat any of the animals and monsters in the game without getting irradiated.

But you shouldn't be afraid of a little radiation damage anyway, your health doesn't mean much in survival so if you lose a chunk of it by drinking from irradiated water sources and eating scavenged food it's no big deal, just pop a rad-X.
OK thank you. I didn't realize they respawn periodically. I figured once you kill them, they're gone. I'm fine with hunting now and then. I still was trying to figure any possible consistent methods for keeping up food. Such as any sort of possibilities with farming. I have been getting tons water from that purifier.


Originally posted by Blinkybubs:
Take a couple ranks in the Lead Belly Perk.
Thank you. I started with three Endurance so I'll probably do that a bit sooner. So between this, and doing a bit of hunting, I think I should be fine. And possibly with that perk, I'll be able to eat foods that are a bit radiated. As I mentioned to the other user, I still was trying to figure any possible consistent methods for keeping up food. Such as any sort of possibilities with farming. I have been getting tons water from that purifier.
Last edited by cool skill; Sep 10, 2022 @ 10:45pm
Sub~*nya*~ck Sep 10, 2022 @ 11:11pm 
Noodle Cups is the best you could wish for in Survival mode. They both replenish your hunger and thirst and don't cost that much. So I suggest plant every spare razorgrin you have if you're not scarce for food. But just any vegetable is good, they don't have radiation in them (if I remember correctly)

Also, I suggest you don't eat irradiated food at all if you don't want to gamble. I think every time you eat irradiated food, drink irradiated water, sleep with hunger or thirst meters not full, swim or even just in the rain you can catch a disease and those things could be hard to get rid of.
cool skill Sep 10, 2022 @ 11:27pm 
Originally posted by Sabnock:
Noodle Cups is the best you could wish for in Survival mode. They both replenish your hunger and thirst and don't cost that much. So I suggest plant every spare razorgrin you have if you're not scarce for food. But just any vegetable is good, they don't have radiation in them (if I remember correctly)

Also, I suggest you don't eat irradiated food at all if you don't want to gamble. I think every time you eat irradiated food, drink irradiated water, sleep with hunger or thirst meters not full, swim or even just in the rain you can catch a disease and those things could be hard to get rid of.
Yes thank you. I have been doing my best to avoid radiated foods because I ended up with some condition that gives me higher chance of illness. I was in some mole den, and ended up over 250 rads while looting a small section. Then took the radaway pill. And I think I got that condition afterwards. I don't know of any vegetable that doesn't give rads. But I was looking into the noodles. I guess I'll try to go for that.
Sub~*nya*~ck Sep 10, 2022 @ 11:44pm 
Originally posted by cool skill:
Yes thank you. I have been doing my best to avoid radiated foods because I ended up with some condition that gives me higher chance of illness. I was in some mole den, and ended up over 250 rads while looting a small section. Then took the radaway pill. And I think I got that condition afterwards. I don't know of any vegetable that doesn't give rads. But I was looking into the noodles. I guess I'll try to go for that.

Huh, than I remember wrong. Well, it's time to grow some vegetables then!

RadAway supresses immunity. And, with a whole lot of meds/chems, adds thirst or hunger. I suggest you try and craft Refreshing beverages at chemestry station to heal health and radiation. With no drawbacks (if you don't count that it is not affected by Medic perk) and it also helps with thirst. Edit: I found that it was considerably nerfed in Survival healing only 100 rads and not 1000 like in normal difficullty. Still for everyday use it's better than using RadAway that adds negative effects.
Last edited by Sub~*nya*~ck; Sep 10, 2022 @ 11:55pm
Bored Peon Sep 11, 2022 @ 12:21am 
Originally posted by B Maverick:
So he's on survival mode. Which he didn't mention. Non survival mode you don't really have to eat.
The OP did not have to mention it. People who play survival knew.

Originally posted by cool skill:
Since I always have to eat so much of food.
That was a VERY big clue.

Originally posted by cool skill:
IAnd fill up bottles.
Also a VERY big clue since you can only fill bottles on survival.

Originally posted by B Maverick:
You don't really have to eat except to heal yourself.
Originally posted by B Maverick:
You can still play missions and level up for hundreds of hours without eating.
Those comments show you have never played survival. As hunger and thirst increases your action points lose their max (as if you had rads for health) and is removed when you eat and drink.

Now for the OP:
You want the Wasteland Survival guide that adds +1 meat for beasts. Seeming how it is your first game you do not know where it is yet. That makes food really easy.
Sub~*nya*~ck Sep 11, 2022 @ 12:41am 
Originally posted by Bored Peon:
Now for the OP:
You want the Wasteland Survival guide that adds +1 meat for beasts. Seeming how it is your first game you do not know where it is yet. That makes food really easy.

Oh, yeah, that. I think it is somewhere in Sunshine Tidings on the left side of the map.
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