Is Mad Max a better Fallout game than Fallout 4?!

[Fluffydonkeys]

Alright, the title is a bit of a trollish statement, but it's meant to get your attention, because I would like my fellow Fallout players to think with me on this.


OFF COURSE Fallout 4 is the bigger game. It has more content, I played 50 hours of Mad Max in one playthrough, and I am on 120 Fallout 4 hours so far. It has more weapon/armor customisation and the settlement building is way WAY more elaborate than Mad Max. Plus in Fallout, the player can choose what their story will look like.

THAT SAID... Mad Max is so much more of an adrenalin pumping game. The combat system is completely different, but much less boring than FO4. In terms of immersion you really feel the scarceness of resources in a post-apocalyptic world. In Mad Max you'd be lucky to have 4 bullets! the rest is going to be fist fights and whatever object you find lying around. Even water and fuel are things to constantly be on the lookout for. In order to upgrade your gear, there aren't specialized ingredients to look for, everything is just "scraps" but they're still scarce and it makes it farmable.

Taking an enemy camp is a battle of skill in Mad Max as opposed to Fallout 4, where it's just... it's just... idk, VATS is allright, but other than that it's just a very boring shooting game against very generic npc's. Even though you don't have an endless number of weaponry options or stealth strategies like in FO4, Mad Max combat still feels like it actually belongs in this century of games.

And then there's the car-to-car combat, which is awsome. Every player has their own style, some are harpoonists, others are thunderpoonists or perhaps shotgun strategists or just straightforward ramming pilots. That is Mad Max' unique selling point. Fallout 4 has one massive advantage that Mad Max doesn't have: many many many mods!

Storms in Fallout 4 are more of a pain in the ass than anything else. Just bully a player with radiation. In Mad Max, storms are, again, an adrenalin pumping experience, cause it becomes a race to the closest camp where you need to be fast and skillful enough not to get your car destroyed and if you get hit there's the potentially deadly decision you have to make to drive on or stop and have Chumbucket do repairs.

Fallout 4 has a funny scene where raiders organize robot races, funny that's true. But in mad Max you can race yourself. Some are really easy, others such as the Stank Gum race in the storyline are insanely difficult.

Fallout 4 has a larger variety of enemies, it is just a larger game on the whole (logically). However, Mad Max' mobs are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ crazy and are totally fun to fight against. There's even one boss called "Rim Jobbie". That's correct.

Last but not least... The story. Mad Max' story starts a bit slow and a bit boring, but towards the end and definitely from Gas Town onwards it becomes very engaging and plain fun. Here is the difference with Fallout 4 in terms of story: perhaps there's only 1 story in Mad Max whereas you can have more playthroughs in FO4 in different storylines... But at the end of the Mad Max story the game will have you do something that will rip right through your heart because you will care. That's the difference with Fallout 4, where I don't even care that much about the central character: Shaun.

On top of that, Fallout 4 has no landscape interactivity (Mad Max has ramps to jump over, grappling harpoons, a MUCH larger map and obviously: DRIVING) and an annoyingly elaborate and outdated inventory system (Bethesda, stop making us go through the inventory for weapons and healing items!). Also,

I know there's a lot of aspects of both games that I haven't even discussed, but Fallout 4 is a game with a budget upwards of 100 million dollars. Mad Max is just a small fraction of that. How about we all ditch Bethesda and ask Avelanche Studios to develop Fallout games for us! Here's my closing statement: Give Avelanche 100 million dollars to make a Fallout game and Bethesda is done for. Definitely if they make it equally moddable and incorporate a variety of factions and stories. Thanks for reading!

In your replies, it's of little relevance to talk ratings of the games. No critic is ever going to give a Fallout game a mediocre rating in order to preserve themselves and Mad Max was rated overwhelingly positive amongst the gamers as opposed to critics.

[Fluffydonkeys]

If Fallout 4 didn't have it's settlement system, the title would even be: "Mad Max is a better Fallout game than Fallout 4!".

[katzenkrimis]

They are both terrible.

[Fluffydonkeys]

Originally posted by katzenkrimis:

They are both terrible.

Have you ever played Mad Max?

[Guydodge]

this is the best selling fallout ever.so for you select few its not to your standards is a real bummer i'm guesing. i'm betting you all have hundreds of hours in and will more than likely put many more in.and mad max is not much more than watching paint dry alot of the game.if thats immersion its got that.

[Philip]

Mad max looks great but is horribly repetitive, much like fallout in that regard.

Its pretty tough to compare them as they are not even the same kind of game.

[Fluffydonkeys]

Originally posted by Guydodge:

this is the best selling fallout ever.so for you select few its not to your standards is a real bummer i'm guesing. i'm betting you all have hundreds of hours in and will more than likely put many more in.and mad max is not much more than watching paint dry alot of the game.if thats immersion its got that.

Well judging from the feedback of the players I get a very good impression that most players are very sceptical of what Fallout 4 has to offer. Concerning Mad Max on the other hand, I have ,ever met someone who actively played that game that had a bad experience with it. If you did play it and base your judgment on that, you will be a first for me.

[Yhwach]

General comparisons:
- Mad Max is a better fallout game!
> Mad Max isn't an open world rpg, and restricts you from going to certain areas either due to a missing upgrade, or because the story locks you in.

- It restricts you from upgrades, and you're forced to do the story, but it's still better!
> In fallout 4, you don't have to do the story to gain any upgrades

- Mad Max has driving mechanics!
> Not one fallout game had ANY driving mechanics, quit comparing these features

- Taking an enemy base feels more fulfilling in Mad Max! All the npc's are boring and dull in fallout 4 compared to mad max, and fallout 4's a generic shooter!
> Not exactly, there's quite a few AI that have some great defined strategies, and actually work better when compared to previous fallout titles.
As for it being a generic shooter, I'm pretty sure no "shooter" game, ala Call of Duty had an actual story, and any that did wrote them terribly.... except World at War, but that was the ONLY good call of duty game.

- Mad Max is more of an adrenaline pumping experience!
> Opinion, I did enjoy the game, but was more annoyed having to go to point A, to point B and the whole game got repetitive.

[Fluffydonkeys]

Allright I am respectful of your opinions, although off course I would have loved to get some support for the idea.

Mad Max imo is a great game, but not the epitome of gaming in general, that honor is still reserved for Far Cry 4, aka as the best game of all time in my book.

[Yhwach]

Originally posted by Fluffydonkeys:

Allright I am respectful of your opinions, although off course I would have loved to get some support for the idea.

Mad Max imo is a great game, but not the epitome of gaming in general, that honor is still reserved for Far Cry 4, aka as the best game of all time in my book.

I still find Mad Max more repetitive, and it's what made me stop playing.

[JocularJosh]

Wait a second...is there a new MadMax game that got recently released or did i play a totally different MadMax game than you did?

"you'd be lucky to have 4 bullets"
> false statement since the game gives you enough bullets all the time, i never had problems with that, i always had bullets

"combat system much less boring than fallout"
> well this is different IMO. you press this button and than this one, there you go. It got quite repetitive and boring after a few hours while fallout offers alot more. I'm doing a melee run right now in fallout and it is so good and funny :D

"even water and fuel are things to constantly be on the lookout for"
> false statement. Everytime you need gas for something you'll find it 10 meters away from it. I literally found TONS of gas and water EVERYWHERE. In every camp and even scavenging locations have water. seriously, i never had to refuel my car. NEVER.

"taking an enemy camp is a battle of skill in MadMax"
> again not true. the fights are just button mashing. That's all you do. I had to use my brain more while playing Fallout than playing MadMax combat-wise.

"bla bla cars are awesome"
> true, the races and the car-to-car combat in MadMax is awesome. It really is, i loved it and i loved upgrading my car and destroying other cars. BUT MadMax is all about cars, the movies and the game while Fallout is completely different. There are no vehicles in FO. Only the PA but even that is not a real vehicle. A vehicle would not fit in the world and everything, the setting and lore-wise.

"storms are better in MM"
> true, they are more dangerous but since there is a hideout literally everywhere they are kinda just annoying. the first storm i witnissed was amazing: i didn't know what to do and what to expect.
After the second one i already knew what to do and how the storm reacts. I never died in a storm and i never had problems driving through a storm. I was able to drive through an entire storm without anything happening to me or my car. Still they are better than those in FO. Just some rad storms or some myst....nothing special and i just ignore them. The game throws RadAway at you all the time so why even bother hiding when a radstorm comes? Useless.

"bosses"
> don't even mention them. Every boss is the same. That is what dissapointed me the most. I wanted different bosses, i wanted some REAL combat, some new strategy every time but nope, here you go, the same boss but a different name. Sure, there are a few exceptions like race-bosses or car-to-car combat bosses but that's about it.

"story"
> funny thing, the story in MadMax was so boring i didn't even bother finishing the game. I cleared every location in MadMax but stopped doing the story missions once i unlocked every location and most of the parts for my car. It meant nothing to me. I know what you have to do near the end of the story but come on...."rip right through your heart"? That's a bit too much isn't it? But i disliked the story in both of those games, i haven't even finished the story for FO4 yet because it is so boring and predictable. I am going to do the story though, because of the factions and because of the quests you get while doing the story.

"map"
> Sure, MM has the "bigger" map but it is empty. Really empty. FOs world is filled with locations. There is so much to do while there is nothing to do in the world of MM. Sure, some ramps here and there but who cares about some ramps? The world is so huge because they want you to use your car, they wanted to make the car the main device in the game. While the map and the whole "desert" in MM looks very, very good it is just very empty at the same time. All I did was drive from location to location and it was a pain in the ass to have to drive from one end of the map to the other end because of some quests...yeah, i could have used Fast travel but i dislike using that in every open world game.

"let avalanche make fallout and bethesda is done for"
> nope. please don't. You can't just say that because they made ONE game you like. Right now they would probably make a huge map for FO but it would be empty. They would probably add vehicles and they would make boring bosses and we would have less variety in our enemies. They would make camps you would be able to "clear" and we wouldn't have as many quests as we do have right now. Please do not compare those two games and please never say something like this again.

In the end all of this is just my opinion, of course. Everything i wrote is NOT a fact and if my comment sounds somehow aggressive or ignorant than I apologize for that. All i did was stating my opinion.

And yeah, the title of this thread is just bait and first I thought that this was a troll post.

[JocularJosh]

Originally posted by Scarecrow:

Originally posted by Fluffydonkeys:

Allright I am respectful of your opinions, although off course I would have loved to get some support for the idea.

Mad Max imo is a great game, but not the epitome of gaming in general, that honor is still reserved for Far Cry 4, aka as the best game of all time in my book.

I still find Mad Max more repetitive, and it's what made me stop playing.

pretty much this, i stopped playing as well because it was so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ boring after a while.