3rd person not as accurate?

[Ed "Bitchtits" McGee]

I've recently been playing FO4 in third person to try it out, it is fun, but one thing I have noticed is the shots aren't as accurate when sighted in. In first person, with ironsights, I can hit someone in the head with ease, with the assault rifle, even with the white dot on their head, at ranges I can hit easily in first person, it doesn't hit.

Is the aiming different? It seems like it doesn't have the same accuracy in third person, more like hipfire accuracy. I'd love to keep playing in third person, but it doesn't seem nearly as accurate. I can do fine close range with pistols with it, but even then at medium ranges that I can still hit with a pistol, sometimes it will, sometimes it won't.

[Warm Fuzzies™]

Do you alt tab at all while playing?

[Ed "Bitchtits" McGee]

No. It's getting frustrating though. I have played plenty of other shooters that have third person. The aiming seems off, but I can't tell exactly how.

[Neutralize]

It's a lot more accurate than it was in 3/NV, thankfully. Without mods, that ♥♥♥♥ was terrible. With mods, it was still pretty terrible.

Depending on perks and your weapon, it's fairly accurate at medium-ish ranges. Far out, you better be using a scope. At closer ranges, you're better off switching to first person. If you're aiming for specific body parts, your best bet is first person sights/scope or VATS, depending.

I mostly play third person outdoors and first person indoors, run around with Power Armor and a range of different weapons, generally Big Guns and Autos. Most times in third person, I just aim for center mass or a little higher, and it still gets the job done. But that's also with maxed weapon perks and fully modded Legendaries sooo...mileage may vary. >_>

[Warm Fuzzies™]

Maybe try alt tabing, then bringing Fallout 4 back up. Ive noticed every now and again that the screen space gets messed up, and the crosshair in 3rd person is no longer aligned where it use to be. Dont know what causes it, but alt tabing fixes it. At least for me it does.

If I see it happen again, I'll try to take a pic of it.

[Storm]

3rd person is sort of cheat mode anyway with all that extra visibility and ease of aiming. It is fair that you are more inaccurate than true ironsights. Makes sense.

[Von Faustien]

Originally posted by Storm:

3rd person is sort of cheat mode anyway with all that extra visibility and ease of aiming. It is fair that you are more inaccurate than true ironsights. Makes sense.

do people even know what cheat means anymore?

[Warm Fuzzies™]

Originally posted by jrr101:

Originally posted by Storm:

3rd person is sort of cheat mode anyway with all that extra visibility and ease of aiming. It is fair that you are more inaccurate than true ironsights. Makes sense.

do people even know what cheat means anymore?

No they dont.

Hell, I remember people calling 3rd person cheating in MW2....like lol...wtf...its part of the game lol.

Easy sure...cheating...far from it.

[Ed "Bitchtits" McGee]

I currently have 435 hours in the game, mostly first person. I never noticed an issue until tonight trying out third person extensively all day. I had no issues hitting anyone in the head at any range with ironsights, even with pistols.

I can't hit a raider in the head 25 meters away with a pistol or an assault rifle now. It sometimes is dead on, sometimes completely misses.

I'm lvl 73, with rifleman and gunslinger maxed. I don't use VATS, just not my thing.

I'll probably just go back to first person. I don't like mixing up the views, I either play a game all third or all first, don't switch back and forth.

I went into the Boston Preparatory School and killed all the raiders there with pistol headshots, no issues. used the assault rifle on a few and it kept missing at the same ranges. I just feel like the aimed in mode with third person isn't nearly as accurate with ironsights.

[Warm Fuzzies™]

Is the Assault Rifle you use automatic or semi?

[Ed "Bitchtits" McGee]

Semi, I don't use auto weapons, running a mod with way less ammo and health than usual. That thing is sniper accurate at all ranges in first person.

[Storm]

For me Cheating for example is an even playing field but one guy has a handicap advantage. Another example is when the AI gets handicaps to make them more difficult.

So all those benefits of 3rd person aiming VS 1st person aiming in Fallout 4 is a handicap and akin to cheating . So we all must be 3rd person to even the playing field again. Fortunately Besthda knows 3rd person is inherently easier and they made it more inaccurate, nice job.

[Warm Fuzzies™]

How big is the issue?

Go near to a wall, maybe 20-30 feet away, and fire while aimed at the wall in 3rd person.

If the bullet is hitting the wall a large distance to either the left or right of the crosshair, then alt tabbing might fix it.

Other than that, not to sure what could be the cause.

I personally use a 45 pipe revolver rifle with iron sights, and it is very accurate in 3rd person. Misses occasionally at extreme ranges (the kind where you can barely see the target) when I aim for the head.

[Nite69]

Originally posted by Storm:

3rd person is sort of cheat mode anyway with all that extra visibility and ease of aiming. It is fair that you are more inaccurate than true ironsights. Makes sense.

its no different then cheating with sneak mode, when it goes from hidden to caution then ya know enemys are around and not to mention doubles the damage of weapons :p

[Warm Fuzzies™]

Originally posted by Storm:

For me Cheating for example is an even playing field but one guy has a handicap advantage. Another example is when the AI gets handicaps to make them more difficult.

So all those benefits of 3rd person aiming VS 1st person aiming in Fallout 4 is a handicap and akin to cheating . So we all must be 3rd person to even the playing field again. Fortunately Besthda knows 3rd person is inherently easier and they made it more inaccurate, nice job.

Um.....what?

Handicaps are used to even the playing field...by your logic here....handicaps are cheating.....

[Storm]

Originally posted by =EGC= _Nite_:

Originally posted by Storm:

3rd person is sort of cheat mode anyway with all that extra visibility and ease of aiming. It is fair that you are more inaccurate than true ironsights. Makes sense.

its no different then cheating with sneak mode, when it goes from hidden to caution then ya know enemys are around and not to mention doubles the damage of weapons :p

No because every player can sneak with equal advantage and opportunity. Say you were playing a PVP game and it was more challenging in 1st person than 3rd person. Would you feel your opponents score who solely uses 3rd person is as justified as your score if u solely used 1st person? Hell no :)