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Noble Ten Dec 25, 2015 @ 8:25am
My Melee hits companions ?
I have 4 levels in Melee perk. And now I noticed everytime I melee, I end up hitting dogmeat along with the enemeis, even if I dont aim at him it Hits him.. I know it hits him because I see him get poisoned from it.. Using the machete I found at Dunrwich mines.

How do I stop hitting friendlies ? Did Bethseda think this aoe through ? Did they really think this was a graet idea ? without any drawbacks ?
Last edited by Noble Ten; Dec 25, 2015 @ 8:26am
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Dionysosss Dec 25, 2015 @ 9:09am 
with great power comes great responsability
Lars Ståhl Dec 25, 2015 @ 9:28am 
Here are some suggestions

1. Pick a ranged companion/give companion ranged weapon (dogmeat can't handle firearms, sorry :(((( )

2. Get the lone wanderer perk and go solo

3. Use VATS more often
Last edited by Lars Ståhl; Dec 25, 2015 @ 9:29am
Awen Dec 25, 2015 @ 9:32am 
The second level of the "Inspirational" perk makes companions immune to your attacks, IIRC.
Dr.mugg Dec 25, 2015 @ 9:39am 
Originally posted by Rakethunden:
Here are some suggestions


2. Get the lone wanderer perk and go solo

With the lone wonderer perk it is still recommended to keep dog around since the perks works with him around.

ent|ty Dec 25, 2015 @ 8:21pm 
Originally posted by Noble Tenshi:
I have 4 levels in Melee perk. And now I noticed everytime I melee, I end up hitting dogmeat along with the enemeis, even if I dont aim at him it Hits him.. I know it hits him because I see him get poisoned from it.. Using the machete I found at Dunrwich mines.

How do I stop hitting friendlies ? Did Bethseda think this aoe through ? Did they really think this was a graet idea ? without any drawbacks ?
You just have to work on your timing.
I went full melee mode in one gameplay, and had fun with Cait or otherwise, batting enemies to death, bap, bap bap bap...
It's just timing.. I don't hit or hurt my companions and we've both been melee.
You could get that perk as a previous poster suggested, but that's for noobs. Learn the timing instead - will make you feel better about it all once you got it down.
CrUsHeR Dec 25, 2015 @ 8:27pm 
Originally posted by Noble Tenshi:
I have 4 levels in Melee perk. And now I noticed everytime I melee, I end up hitting dogmeat along with the enemeis, even if I dont aim at him it Hits him.. I know it hits him because I see him get poisoned from it.. Using the machete I found at Dunrwich mines.

How do I stop hitting friendlies ? Did Bethseda think this aoe through ? Did they really think this was a graet idea ? without any drawbacks ?

Same problem here, playing without companions but it's impossible to fight near any kind of non-hostile beings in the game.

Melee is crappy enough simply because you are rooted in place while doing melee swings, so you are forced to use VATS where you can't even control which direction your melee cleave will hit.
ent|ty Dec 25, 2015 @ 8:29pm 
Originally posted by CrUsHeR:
Originally posted by Noble Tenshi:
I have 4 levels in Melee perk. And now I noticed everytime I melee, I end up hitting dogmeat along with the enemeis, even if I dont aim at him it Hits him.. I know it hits him because I see him get poisoned from it.. Using the machete I found at Dunrwich mines.

How do I stop hitting friendlies ? Did Bethseda think this aoe through ? Did they really think this was a graet idea ? without any drawbacks ?

Same problem here, playing without companions but it's impossible to fight near any kind of non-hostile beings in the game.

Melee is crappy enough simply because you are rooted in place while doing melee swings, so you are forced to use VATS where you can't even control which direction your melee cleave will hit.
It's not impossible, you need to learn timing.
CrUsHeR Dec 26, 2015 @ 8:03am 
Originally posted by ent|ty:
It's not impossible, you need to learn timing.

What timing? I don't even use companions.
ent|ty Dec 26, 2015 @ 4:23pm 
Originally posted by CrUsHeR:
Originally posted by ent|ty:
It's not impossible, you need to learn timing.

What timing? I don't even use companions.
With or without companions, it's all in the timing. I have not used any Vats with melee swings and do fine. Sometimes I get interrupted yes, but with proper timing (how long it takes to swing, the interruption of movement, etc) it can all be done.

Just keep at it, and soon it will be second nature, and charging into a den of 4 raiders and doing fine.

You can also try modding your armor to have more strength, etc that can help with quick dispatching, or speed of movement, extra AP..

Look at the second entry on your armor mod slots to find these things. Also as you progress you will get more options.

There are also special armor pieces from Legendaries that you can find that will give you bonuses for standing still and mitigating damage and interruptions (which as you swing you are technically immobile).

So in a nutshell, I'm just saying be patient, take your lumps, but dont take the easy route and you will have more fun in the end. :D
Last edited by ent|ty; Dec 26, 2015 @ 4:39pm
Danceofmasks Dec 26, 2015 @ 4:29pm 
Great move to learn (timing for): the sprinting attack.
Forward moving and double damage ... sometimes it's more effective to dash between enemies.
Definitely more entertaining.
Noble Ten Dec 27, 2015 @ 1:31pm 
Does timing have to do when you hit "everything" thats in front of your screen, Will timing inclueading waiting for Dogmeat to get out of the way ? which I dont think he will on his own. The getting perk thing seems valid, but not everyone is raising Charisma to such that high of a level >< I could just console the perk in. I think would do best. Its to prevent an annoyance afterall.So I wouldnt call it cheating that way.
Last edited by Noble Ten; Dec 27, 2015 @ 1:33pm
ent|ty Dec 27, 2015 @ 1:47pm 
Originally posted by Noble Tenshi:
Does timing have to do when you hit "everything" thats in front of your screen, Will timing inclueading waiting for Dogmeat to get out of the way ? which I dont think he will on his own. The getting perk thing seems valid, but not everyone is raising Charisma to such that high of a level >< I could just console the perk in. I think would do best. Its to prevent an annoyance afterall.So I wouldnt call it cheating that way.
Timing is 'learning' over time how long it takes you to initiate a swing, deliver a swing, block with the same weapon, how long you might be incapacitated yourself from an enemy blocking you, etc, and positioning yourself to maximize all of this - even with companions in the way.

Sidestep to go the right or left of your companion, and deliver the swing.
You don't need perks for this, because it is skill based.
You COULD perk no damage to your companion or w/e, but why waste a point when all you need to do is learn to use your weapon effectively.

I've gone full melee on one character, with no power armor, and did fine and Cait and I baseball batted all sorts of enemies to death and laughed while doing it.

Originally posted by Noble Tenshi:
< I could just console the perk in. I think would do best. Its to prevent an annoyance afterall.So I wouldnt call it cheating that way.
That would be cheating. It's also lame, because you should be seeking challenge, instead of running away from them. Life lesson.
Last edited by ent|ty; Dec 27, 2015 @ 1:48pm
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