Brotherhood Build?

[Haddock]

So I had a character going to do the Railroad but not using power armor was getting boring, so I've started a new game and want to know if anyone has some suggestion for a good Brotherhood of steel build

(Stats, playstyles, companions)

I was thinking of going 9 Charisma and getting Wasteland Whisperer to use Abominations to fight Abominations.

I was also thinking of using Curie but not giving her a Synth body.

[ImHelping]

You can do nearly anything you want, but some basics minimum requirements for "Power armor and lasers".

INT 6: Science Perk. Science Perk is required not only for Energy weapons modifications, it is also requried for even the most basic power armor upgrades alongside the armor crafting perk. (6 Int is also more than enough for Gun Nut, as many scope options still require Gun Nut even when using lasers and plasma. As well as upgrading heavy weapons).

STR 3: This is the minimum requirement for the Armor crafting perk.

Luck 2: Scrounger perk. Don't be like me, get this SOONER, rather than later. At least two ranks. It makes such a difference, oh god. This will help your energy ammo and fusion cores looting over time by a large margin.

Optional, INT 9: Nuke Physisist increases the duration of fusion cores for power armor and the gatling laser. I would suggest NOT maxing this out, because the max rank makes you crap out fusion cores like a grenade when you use the grenade button.

And since that doubles as power attack/hold breath binding, this makes a lot of people waste cores or even blow themselves up.

Luxury frivolous optional, Scrapper perk (5 INT). Rank 2 of this lets you get high end components often used in energy weapons and power armor such as crystla, fiber optics, etc, by scrapping nonstandard lasers. Scrapping weapons is heavily influenced by the modifications on them.

Example: Basic laser pistol. 4 plastic.
Basic laser pistol, with 2 scrapper. 4 plastic, 1 screw.
Basic automatic laser with 2 scrapper. fiber optics, crystal, cirtuicts, etc etc etc.

If you make a water farm to sell for caps, you can buy shipments readily enough. However, having a backlog is more convenient. A shipment of 25 fiber optics costs thousands of caps, and still isn't even enough fiber optics to make a pair of arm stabilizer mods on NORMAL armor.

Those are the minimum stats/perks for "Can upgrade power armor and energy weapons"

EDIT: Reminder that energy weapons work off Rifleman, gunslinger, and command just the same as ballistics. It depends on if it's a semi auto handgun, semi auto rifle, or full auto anything.

A short stock on a laser rifle is actually very good unlike a short stock on a normal rifle. Use a short stock on a semi auto laser rifle to get more VATS shots with no real drop in ranged efficiency. Use a marksman stock on a sniper rifle, and a recoil stock on an automatic rifle.

Laser/plasma shotguns are terrible, sadly. It splis all the damage between evry beam/pellet, so you have to land every single bit of it to do the same damage as a normal shot.

Plasma Flamethrower I THINK is rifleman. It is also super incredibly strong and will kill legengary assaultrongs in 2 seconds or less (yet surprisingly terirble if you shoot it in VATS even with a VATS crit).

While the plasma flamethrower is great, Recivers that add burning damage are terrible. Enemy health and resistance scaling means past the first 10 levels or so, even the best burning recivers will do next to no visible damage to even raiders. Unless you squint and stare at their health bar for 10 seconds.

[LeftClickHero]

well obviously outfit wise, one of the limited options, scribe armour, uniform or bomber jacket. armour modules will be the lovely brown combart armour the heavier the better with BOS colours and insigina. power armour will be t60 set, xo1 might be optional but you will stand out like a sore thumb among your brothers and sisters.

companions.....Danse..... really is there any other companion more BOS than him? pre synth cure is great but, you wont be able to max out her affinity if you keep her as a robot.

playstyle, kill every synth, ghoul, supermutant you see, unless they will further the brother hoods mission.


stats follow Iam helping

ad victorium

[The Konrad]

Low int build is an obvious given here.
Unless you want to turn into a scribe or something

[LeftClickHero]

Originally posted by Konrad:

Low int is an obvious given here.

if your paladin i suppose so, you will usally have a feild scribe along with you

[The Konrad]

Yes, and roleplaywise you have to believe all the false propaganda they're spreading.

Speaking of further roleplay elements:

No Mutation Perks, as Brotherhood stays clean of those mutis.

[ImHelping]

Roleplaying is nice and all, but "Leave the nerd stuff to Scribes" is no good from a game mechanics standpoint. Besides, any proper Knight knows how to maintain his weaponry and armor in the field.

NPCs have people build their power armor and lasers for them. Maxson made people make his armored coat for him. You? You're on your own for upgrades. You're never gonna find proper power armor mods at the quartermaster shop.

Take the 6 INT for Science.

Frivolous tip: Mod your power armor helmet to have a blue headlamp. It's much more pleasant on the eyes to use.

[The Konrad]

Originally posted by I'm Helping!:

Roleplaying is nice and all, but "Leave the nerd stuff to Scribes" is no good from a game mechanics standpoint. Besides, any proper Knight knows how to maintain his weaponry and armor in the field.

NPCs have people build their power armor and lasers for them. You? You're on your own for upgrades.

Take the 6 INT.

Acutally you can get all the upgrades from the Quartermaster.
Are you even supposed to have better armour than your superiors?
Walking around in a X01 as BoS Knight grunt should be prohibited, in my opinion.

[ImHelping]

Originally posted by Konrad:

Originally posted by I'm Helping!:

Roleplaying is nice and all, but "Leave the nerd stuff to Scribes" is no good from a game mechanics standpoint. Besides, any proper Knight knows how to maintain his weaponry and armor in the field.

NPCs have people build their power armor and lasers for them. You? You're on your own for upgrades.

Take the 6 INT.

Acutally you can get all the upgrades from the Quartermaster.
Are you even supposed to have better armour than your superiors?
Walking around in a X01 as BoS Knight grunt should be prohibited, in my opinion.

I'm almost level 60 and I've never seen any explosive resistance mods for my power armor in the shop. Let alone for every single section of power armor. Nor have I seen carry capacity mods for the legs, etc etc etc. I've always had to rely on myself for the mods and upgrades I want, because the Quartermaster is always lacking.

You can get by just using what they give you or what is in the shop, to be fair. But if you have any specific desires beying BoS paint jobs, you probably won't see it.

As for weapons, sure they eventually sell gattling lasers. But I still had to upgrade it myself. I buy every single weapon in the shop out of curiosity from time to time, and they are still not impressive upgrades wise compared to what I already have owned and personally upgraded for dozens of levels.

As for "your superiors", in short order, Maxson is your only superior.

Sticking with T-60 is good though. T-60 upgraded will curbstomp all enemies in your path. X-01 is nice, but T-60 more than gets the job done when properly cared for. Even my X-01 armor has a T-60 helmet for style reasons.

IMPORTANT BUG NOTE: Do NOT use the Helmet mod that highlights enemies. That has lots of known bugs which make many people attack you outright when they are scripted to be peaceful or take time for story dialoge.

[The Konrad]

Originally posted by I'm Helping!:

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You can get by just using what they give you or what is in the shop, to be fair. But if you have any specific desires beying BoS paint jobs, you probably won't see it.[...]

Agreed but If OP wants to play as a true Brotherhood of Steel Knight (Paladin/Sentinel) then he actively accepts to narrow his choices down for a better more immersive playthrough.

That's what roleplaying a Bethesda game is.
You can do Ironman, or only Melee builds, all fine.
Or you can do a BoS build, which should refrain from doing Scribes work tampering with technology (if you want to use their Power Amour)

[ImHelping]

Originally posted by Konrad:

Originally posted by I'm Helping!:

[...]

You can get by just using what they give you or what is in the shop, to be fair. But if you have any specific desires beying BoS paint jobs, you probably won't see it.[...]

Agreed but If OP wants to play as a true Brotherhood of Steel Knight (Paladin/Sentinel) then he actively accepts to narrow his choices down for a better more immersive playthrough.

That's what roleplaying a Bethesda game is.
You can do Ironman, or only Melee builds, all fine.
Or you can do a BoS build, which should refrain from doing Scribes work tampering with technology (if you want to use their Power Amour)

Multiple BoS soldiers hand you their personally customized laser weapons.

If the OP desires, he can stick to what is is availible to be given him by others. But considering the BoS expects YOU to handle some incredibly high tech things in the plot, even if you have Int 1 and no technology related perks?

Roleplay immersion wise, you are more than expected to be able to handle such things as a member of the BoS. Unless doing things even their top scribes are impressed by doesn't count, I guess.

Again, if the OP specifically wants to go the tech ignorant route (except when the plot demands otherwise), he should do what he wants there. I'm just highlighting the "Hurf Durf leave it to the scribes" outlook is in no way what actually how the BoS expects you to act.

[The Konrad]

Good point, I never bother with those high end BoS Quests because following the BoS long doesn't fit my playstyle.

But there is a Idiot Savant perk which should reflect that you miraclously can handle technology way beyond your understanding.
Come to think of it, every BoS Scribe probably has the Idiot Savant perk.

[Humble]

I'm agree wtih "I'm Helping!" when come to power armor, you must had Strength 3 at least, 6 Intelligence , luck 2 for all your need to mod and max for power armor, but as for brotherhood steel, I would max 10 Charisma, why, there is some quest that need 10 Charisma, so brotherhood of steel isn't all mindless killing, unless one want to play that role, but it's will not get you most of quest, like lost patal, ect...

[The Konrad]

Originally posted by Travis:

[...] brotherhood of steel isn't all mindless killing,[...]

It sadly is about mindless killing, but I don't want to start another argument here.

[Humble]

Not all of them, Yes, some of them but not all of them.

[The Konrad]

Originally posted by Travis:

Not all of them, Yes, some of them but not all of them.

Isn't it telling that the Synth accidentally being a Brotherhood Paladin is more noble and honorable than most of the other "TRUU" BoS soldiers?