My Fallout London Spoiler Review

[hatta]

First:
It's worth buying FO4 just for "Fallout London".

"Fallout London" is a better experience, according to the implementation, than "Fallout 4", although Fallout 4 has FAR greater potential for remake-reboot technical new beginning (as a cookie cutter from a developer like Bend Studio).

I played through it today.
My content rating: 8 out of 10
It's a continuous experience, a successful home-nostalgic asset flip, and new gameplay flow. this until the end credits song.

It's a standalone video game, so far implemented as a "total conversion", I wouldn't call it a "mod".


1 point deducted because it's not a cookie cutter from Fallout 4, but an asset flip from Fallout 4.

Cookie cutter:
These are games that copy the reality of the assets of other games and repeat them in an improved way (prime example is "Days Gone 2019" or perhaps "GTA 6"). If it were in Unreal Engine 5 and a cookie cutter, then it would be a 9 out of 10.
I hope:
that FOLON manages to form their own team and recreate this 1-to-1 in Unreal Engine 5. And then they can of course sell this cookie cutter legally.
Implementing this here as an asset flip, with the assets from Fallout 4, was hopefully just a "sketch of an idea", "playable teaser", wiki/Vertical_slice.
FACT:
I spent 98 hours playing the game.
I have game progress: 74 hours.
SO:
I was annoyed with crashes: 24 + 4 offline hours
I was particularly tortured by the quest: Quest: "You only live twice", Quest: spin doctor
Problem: You can't get into the subway tunnel, "Westminster subway", because the game crashes allmost ALWAYS. I opened the console and looked for clickable objects that have an ID (NPC or ladder, chest, ...) that I can teleport to with for example player.moveto 072eee33 ......
I HOPE:
Folon doesn't waste time, trying to "polish" this in the "Creation Engine" from "Bethesda Softworks"
I think:
This can definitely be repeated with the Unreal Engine 5. Fallout 4 was only used for a "Vertical Slice", "Playable Teaser", and then the real game can be bought on Steam for 50+$, built with Unreal Engine 5.

IMPORTANT!!!!!!!!!
I absolutely want to praise the playing time, let's say 80 hours.
Reminder:
For Fallout 4 you need 192 hours to complete all the quests. I hate these games which are way too long, without any polishing or optimization.

I think it's great:
Because it's so much inspired by games I've played and "love":
"Archolos 2021" (Gothic 2 2003" Total Conversion) Narrative Design, ...
"GTA4 2008" Stories, ...
"Half Life 2 2004" Angel Design, train rides, walls, ...
"Gothic 2 2002" Night, fog, sounds, rain, ...
"Brothers in Arms Earned in Blood 2005" Setting, Weapon, ...

As a tech demo I would like to mention the NEW gameplay with the halberd.
I played wiki/Halberd and wiki/Polearm a lot for the first time.


1 point deducted because it's called "Fallout".
I would like to rename it "Hostel London" or "wiki/Hostel_(2005_film) - The Video Game"
Compare: wiki/The_Thing_(video_game) 2002 (gets a remastered version 2025)
I hope FOLON turns to SONY, who have the rights to the "Hostel" franchise, for the Cookie Cutter implementation in Unreal Engine 5.

in terms of atmosphere, story, themes, setting, characters, is NOT "Fallout".
There is no "naivety" here (see "Americana Naivite", term only by Todd Howard)
so:
this is not about an addiction to failure (of the founding fathers, the constitution).
there is no Elder God here.
this is not about Cahokia.

The story could be summarized as follows:
After the death of the Queen (who still had imitation behavior of the Elder God), the UK has completely become an inherent museum.
An organization like the "Elite Hunting Club", here called "Angel", has established itself in this "Museum UK" (compare wiki/Mannerism in Italy). But what exactly this organization intends to do is forever confusing and illogical, since the administrators of this organization are all "clones", i.e. they are not human, and will therefore never be able to understand Gothic anyway.
One could interpret this as: the UK should be forever disconnected from the Elder God, the UK should never again have a Queen who steals imitation behavior from the Elder God.

[anderespeler]

How to install Fallout: London?

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anderespeler eredeti hozzászólása:

How to install Fallout: London?

1
create a GOG account with email and password.

Buy it on GOG or 2,3,4

2
Open STEAM console into your browser.
Type the 14 links into the console and STEAM will then download the older version of Fallout 4 into these 14 folders.
(1 link 377163 „For Part B use“ took me 2 hours until these 18 GB with 64 folders are „completed“.)

3
Then move the contents of these 14 folders into a NEW FOLDER and the mod can then be installed using this folder.

4
Then install into this NEW FOLDER
(not in the folder: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Fallout 4).
I chose NEW FOLDER: C:\Program Files (x86)\00 FL LONDOND Mod

5
You need additional mods to make it playable because of the crashes and loading screens.
just copy them obviously into this NEW FOLDER after installation.
These are:
- Buffout 4 (you dont need that anymore due to hotfix 1.01)
- Weapon Debris Crash Fix
- Long Loading Times Fix [Choose: the game version 1.10.163.0 and lower (London)]
(- AND Untertitel auf Deutsch: Fallout London Deutsche Uebersetzung“)

Note:
Reduce the game's settings from Ultra to High or even to Medium.
Otherwise the game will freeze, as there will be very severe FPS drops at random points, so only restarting the PC or unplugging the power cable will help.

Note:
loading screens Fast travel, the game only manages 3 to 4. After 3, the crash is an absolute certainty. So you can play smoothly but you should think about when to do the fast travel because the game seems to have a permanent memory bug-defect.

Note:
Individual buggy quests can be solved with console commands
I have had so far:
- „Can't progress with the "Swan & Mitre" quest "Chill" Winston.“ - SetStage Folon_GW101 160
- „Arms Race - You cannot give in the quest to Antony.“ - setstage FOLON_gW107 60
Most of them are solved with hotfix 1.01
But remember:
- to open the door and terminal, if you can't find the key: open the console, click with the mouse, and "unlock"
- while stuck in dialogue open the console by pressing [ö] (~) and type “cow londonworld 0,0“
- while stuck after a dialogue, [Press Reset key (key above Enter key)]
- QUEST: Lost & Won bug fix (Prince Pete Stuck) For warping to the bridge: cow hackneyworld 5,7 - For selecting characters: PRINCE PETE: prid 072efd8e - For moving selected characters to you: moveto player
- Quest: "You only live twice“ - Problem: You can't get into the subway tunnel, "Westminster subway", because the game crashes allmost ALWAYS. I opened the console and looked for clickable objects that have an ID (NPC or ladder, chest, ...) that I can teleport to. ", Quest: spin doctor „ into the underground: player.moveto 07268042, out: cow londonworld 0,0 - for free flying out of the map, i.e. for searching for ID yourself, write in the console: tcl
- to be able to discard the "Duelling Musket" again, simply drop it in the ATTA-Boy with "R"

[hatta]

I never believe that "Fallout London" will be in a polished state, in a technical end result state like:

"Legend of Ahssun 2018"
Last update to "LoA-1.2.0.exe" on April 1st, 2024

"The Chronicles Of Myrtana: Archolos 2021"
April 12th, 2024 - Update 2.0 will come out when it's ready.


Repeat:
I hope they just leave it as it technically is now and go to SONY for the HOSTEL franchise, and SONY is a publisher that is adept at publishing cookie cutter games.



In addition:
A collaboration with SONY probably means an asset flip from "The Last of Us Part II 2020"
- (Dodge)
- (Infection Zone with gas mask)
So:
Less or no radioactivity gameplay.
So:
more "tunnel cough" gameplay.
more "tunnel cough" atmosphere.
more "tunnel cough" game design.

[HavokVonFaust]

Sooo... in order to play Fallout London I have to buy the game again? ♥♥♥♥ Bethesda!

[hatta]

HavokVonFaust eredeti hozzászólása:

Sooo... in order to play Fallout London I have to buy the game again? ♥♥♥♥ Bethesda!

It's best to buy it on GOG, then everything's convenient.
I bought it again on GOG for 15 euros.
Otherwise, I played it with Steam a year ago, so I'm out of it. There's a Discord where you can ask questions regarding installation.

[hatta]

HavokVonFaust eredeti hozzászólása:

♥♥♥♥ Bethesda!

There are 3 better options for a "Fallout" Total Conversion Mod:

1 "Days Gone Remastered 2025" "Broken Roads" DLC
this is Unreal Engine 4

2 "The Last of Us Part II Remastered" 2024

3 "Doom - the dark ages"
this is Bethesda Publisher, BUT another Engine, "Id Tec 7"


Otherwise:
I HATE Oblivion Remastered.
- Loading times
- Performance issues
- NOT playable on my current old PC
- The new faces are random, psycho, and charmless. I don't understand how anyone would voluntarily spend their free time looking at such faces INSTEAD OF, say, playing "Stormshoot 2023," a Chinese cookie cutter. The politicians from my country are even more handsome actors...
- It's not a remake. So all my thoughts about a better, more interesting experience were ignored.
- ect.
- Oblivion Remastered is OBVIOUSLY based exclusively on US-European feedback.
In comparison:
Days Gone Remastered is OBVIOUSLY based exclusively on Chinese-Latin American-Indian feedback.

[Mr. Bufferlow]

Appreciate your thoughts. I am just about to 100 hours and no where near done. I am playing tourist and if there is a place to be rumpled or any minor sidequest, I have been on it.

I agree with your central points:

This is really a new game, like New Vegas, using mod feels demeaning. I was expecting one of those horrible...nothing new to see here just some cosmetics. It is deep and makes you feel like you are in London. They covered all the major collectible bases, which I enjoy since I am a completionist.

The vocal and sound score in general, could be missed by novices, but it is truly unique and still gives you the smell of that Fallout 4 Panisha as well. Feels comfortable, like you know most of the rules but there are still surprises.

So far, the whole theme feels harder than you would expect (playing at the lowest mode). Just in the last five hours starting to feel pretty confident. The first forty hours were tough and you figure out quick that melee is the best unless you are at distance. Never did a melee run, but going through the toughest (usually) with my sacrificial blade.

Bottom line: Been playing a lot more than normal because this game is addictive. I am seriously using an alarm so I don't keep playing from dawn to dusk. (retired so that is a thing)

Because these folks probably had minor hopes for a big win...got to give it a 10. Financially for FOLON, a sad 2 or 3? In the world I want to live in, this thing would have gone blockbuster. FOLON be calling banks to store the stash.

Good one you FOLON! (Or BEtHDesta counter insurgency)...this could have been some clandestine software release to open up a whole new modding deal. The Creator thing at a whole new level...don[t focus on users, focus on creators.

Okay, took the tin foil hat off. These are just people who love game making and a uber-fans of the game series. Thanks guys! Big plus.

[Mr. Bufferlow]

Wow, just hit 90 hours. I know I said this mod "felt like a full game", but I expected it to be really short. It truly is like a new release of a Fallout game. It has got roots in Fallout 4 programming, but FOLON team did incredible work to make it feel and work differently.

PITA far on some quests but I like the collectible differences. Music Records, cute little dolls (similar to the bobble heads..but not really). Maybe this is a regular feature, but I was shocked when

There are a lot of those little differences. That main change is just making it crazy difficult to get anywhere. Walls and mazes are a huge feature. It feels real good when you finally figure it out.

Stable as a rock my first 50 hours, but recently starting to run into minor issues. Having to use some console codes because of glitches. (Witch I absolutely needed to kill was in the canal underwater for whatever reason- 10 sec. to death)

I guess I would call it a cheat on this one maze. Can't see, wandering around in an actual maze I finished what I needed with no console codes, but definitely will use at least one to actually find the two missing keys. Apparently, you only need the right two of the four for the "mission" to end. The maze quest remains open.

Bottom line: If you have thought about it, do it. I would recommend paying the $15 for the GOG version. You can downgrade the game in Steam, but it is like NO work if you just get a copy in GOG. The Mod is free. If you could have bought FO4 for $15 when it was just released? Nuff Said.

[White Rabbit Alice]

*Sneaks up behind the chatbot*.....*De-Activates it.*

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HavokVonFaust eredeti hozzászólása:

Sooo... in order to play Fallout London I have to buy the game again? ♥♥♥♥ Bethesda!

You dont have to. You can play Fallout London with STEAM iy you are able to downgrade to version 1.1.163 propperly.
Reasons for buying a additional copy at GoG is lacking modding skills or lazyness.