Question about cleaning up the Castle

[Elegant Caveman]

I intend to do the Taking Independence[fallout.wiki] quest for the Minutemen, but I'm tempted to clear the Castle[fallout.wiki] by myself before doing the quest, so that the squishy minutemen don't die.

This bit in the Notes section of the Castle page is giving me pause, though:

It is possible to clear out the Castle before the Minutemen retake it during Taking Independence. When Preston Garvey asks the Sole Survivor if the Minutemen are ready to take back the Castle, one has the option to say that they have already cleared the place out.

The mess created by the mirelurks and the eggs (intact or smashed) will remain if the player character takes this route. The Minutemen appear to clean up the mess once they arrive, although this may take some time to happen. Afterward, it will be identical to the outcome of taking it with the Minutemen, aside from any goo piles that may have been caused by the mirelurk queen killing them with acid.

Specifically, the "The mess created by the mirelurks and the eggs (intact or smashed) will remain if the player character takes this route." part.

Because then it says that the minutemen clean it up and it's like doing the quest normally? So I'm confused.

Is it:

1. That if you clear the Castle alone before doing Taking Independence, there's stuff that would normally have gotten cleaned up in the quest that won't get cleaned up at all? Or...
   
   
2. That if you clear the Castle alone, things won't get cleaned up until you do the quest, but when you do, everything will get cleaned up normally? Or...
   
   
3. Something else, and I'm just misunderstanding everything?

Basically, I'd like the minutemen to live, but if it's between that and having to deal with a mess (I'd rather not use the console & disable/markfordelete if I can avoid it), I think I'd just rather have them die.

So I'm trying to decide if I should go pre-clear the Castle before doing Taking Independence, or not.

Thoughts welcome, especially from personal experience.

Cheers.

EDIT: Well, finally got around to doing it, and I can confirm that the Minutemen clean things up even if you clear it without them before doing the quest.

Thanks again, everyone!

[Elegant Caveman]

Nguyên văn bởi Zekiran:

Yes, that's a vital quest to say the least.

Once you have Artillery available to your settlements the only other quests will depend on your other actions and won't have profound impact on the visuals.

Excellent, thanks.

[eMYNOCK]

Nguyên văn bởi DouglasGrave:

For those who think the Minutemen never seem to do anything themselves, we can definitely credit them with cleaning the Castle of mirelurk gunk.

and all it takes is half a full library of enclave radio freedom.

now we found a solution to the decrepit state of boston.. just play minuteman radio everywere and the city will be as good as new.

[Old Ben]

Nguyên văn bởi Elegant Caveman:

Nguyên văn bởi Old Ben:

I do the quest, then I enable a mod to clean the castle and rebuild the ugly wall.

Ah, right, forgot to mention: I'm not using mods, and don't want to use mods.

That's fine, I have over 2000 hrs and at least 4 complete play throughs so mods are the only thing that brings me back to playing FO4 now.

Enjoy !

[Elegant Caveman]

Nguyên văn bởi Old Ben:

That's fine, I have over 2000 hrs and at least 4 complete play throughs so mods are the only thing that brings me back to playing FO4 now.

Enjoy !

Understandable.

First time for me, so I'm holding off for now.

And thanks!

[wtiger27]

Just do the quest to retake the Castle with the MM. What's a couple dead MM doing it? The one MM which operates the radio tower will not die.

[eMYNOCK]

Nguyên văn bởi wtiger27:

Just do the quest to retake the Castle with the MM. What's a couple dead MM doing it? The one MM which operates the radio tower will not die.

2 free laborers or two corpses... hmmm... hmmm... hard choices...

[Elegant Caveman]

Well, finally got around to doing it, and I can confirm that the Minutemen clean things up even if you clear it without them before doing the quest.

Thanks again, everyone!

[Fumo Bnnuy n Frends]

they clean up

it happens the same but skip having them help you and just go towards the end of the quest

pretty good in hindsight bethesda thought ahead and made it a thing on several quests if you already have certain things do certain things or overall forget or skip certain scripted scenes they just skip ahead.


so yeah just clear the castle and claim it as a settlement then the MM quest happens you can just have them clear it out. Wait a few days and Ronnie appears an older ex MM who has combat training helps you unlock the castle and get artillery cannon support unlocked as a buildable settlement item you can use like BoS vertibird support

[George W. Kush]

past couple play throughs ive had minute men in the castle walking around missing an arm or hand due to the live dismemberment mod and watching them farm is amusing because the mod i think needs to be updated and you can see a "ghost limb" for lack of a better word (can see outline of missing body part but it has debris stuck to it lol)