Next-Gen update is dead

[cjbarger]

The Next-Gen update is dead because it's a failure no more update patches

[Docsprock]

Its a failure because millions of people are enjoying it and you are not?

[wtiger27]

Originally posted by Xenophobe:

next-gen should have been an optional free DLC, that way existing functional nexus mods that are no longer actively maintained wouldn't have been decimated.

I would be ok with that. I would have bought it in a heart beat. The Update has been great for myself. Not had any major issues with any of it. Lots of extra content was added. I appreciate Beth doing that.

The OP is dead wrong with the exception for himself it might be a failure. But for a lot of other players, it has been great.

[Xenon The Noble]

For PC users, mostly its just creation club content with a new enemy (Enclave) and some power armor and weapons. I guess the target was XBox.
If I wanted the CC content, I would have bought it. Now its just something to deal with.
Most mods, with the exception of Pip Boy Storage, seems to work now.

[funkynutz]

Originally posted by wtiger27:

The OP is dead wrong with the exception for himself it might be a failure. But for a lot of other players, it has been great.

That's definitely not the general consensus. It fixed HDR... That's about the only thing that's noticeable in a good way (like a lot of people, I don't use the creation club stuff so I won't comment on that).

Previously existing bugs that were fixed? You're having a laugh... They haven't even fixed the weapon debris bug from years ago yet.

Various other problems were introduced by the next gen update. These weren't fixed in the patch that came after.

The ultrawide support? Great if you want an awful looking hud. Mods do it better...

Oh, and of course that's just for the vanilla users...



Obviously it broke a lot of mods. It should have been an optional install. Hell, all of Bethesdas updates should be optional on games that have been out for years... (I actually didn't actually have this problem, I've been blocking FO4 updates for a coup[le of years now).

[EricHVela]

I still stand behind that the 2024 Update (as it's called in the new credits) did zip-all for PC users except break long-standing and no-longer-updated mods that others used. (Still a non-modder, but I don't live in a vacuum.)

"...experience Fallout on your next-gen PC with WS and UWS support..."

That only meant that, under specific conditions, the game might recognize WS/UWS setups, but the UI wasn't fixed for it. (Since "next-gen PC" has such a variable definition, that phrase means nothing.)

They promised bug fixes, but they never promised every bug would be fixed. (That's fair, though. No developer can fix every bug.) Though, there were some expectations of specific common bugs being fixed, like Weapon Debris (at least being turned off by default since that the technology it needs isn't being used anymore) and the FPS issue on fast PCs causing either freaky gameplay or long loading times.

So, the sum total on PC is some CC being forced upon players whether or not they wanted it.

Still, the solutions that worked prior for non-modded games still work after the 2024 Update. It's all the mods people were using that were needlessly broken just so Bethsoft could keep the PC version in-line with the next-gen console updates. Is it easier for Bethsoft to support the same features across all platforms? Maybe... if they intended to keep supporting them.

[patrick68794]

Originally posted by funkynutz:

That's definitely not the general consensus. It fixed HDR... That's about the only thing that's noticeable in a good way (like a lot of people, I don't use the creation club stuff so I won't comment on that).

Previously existing bugs that were fixed? You're having a laugh... They haven't even fixed the weapon debris bug from years ago yet.

Various other problems were introduced by the next gen update. These weren't fixed in the patch that came after.

The ultrawide support? Great if you want an awful looking hud. Mods do it better...

Oh, and of course that's just for the vanilla users...



Obviously it broke a lot of mods. It should have been an optional install. Hell, all of Bethesdas updates should be optional on games that have been out for years... (I actually didn't actually have this problem, I've been blocking FO4 updates for a couple of years now).

weapon debris crashes are caused by an unsupported SDK. A real fix might be a huge amount of work and it also might break it for older GPUs. The "fix" on the nexus just disables the collision and physics for the debris, which is the entire point of using the feature to begin with and wouldn't be a real solution from Bethesda.

The update fixed a good number of bugs though. Them not fixing something that doesn't have an easy fix doesn't negate that.

[funkynutz]

Originally posted by patrick68794:

The update fixed a good number of bugs though.

Weren't they mostly to do with the CC stuff though?

[patrick68794]

Originally posted by funkynutz:

Originally posted by patrick68794:

The update fixed a good number of bugs though.

Weren't they mostly to do with the CC stuff though?

No, several were but most were bugs with the base game and/or official DLC.

Resolved issues preventing Japanese and Chinese users from connecting to Bethesda.net (this restores access to Mods).
Resolved issue preventing save data from properly loading during the prologue.
Resolved issue that could prevent the Vault 111 Door from opening on new games.
Resolved issue that could prevent the quest “Go Home” from advancing.
Resolved issue that could result in Codsworth being broken on the ground after fast traveling.
Resolved issue with mipmaps in DLC.
Resolved issue that could result in a softlock when in dialogue with Prestson Garvey.
Resolved issue preventing autosaves while fast traveling in Power Armor.
Fixed issue where text would occasionally disappear in the Creation Club menu.
Resolved issues with text formatting in the credits in Japanese and Chinese.
Resolved issue causing the camera to fail when leaving furniture after an extended time.
Fixed issue that could misplace quest markers while the VR Workshop Creation was installed alongside Automatron.
Resolved issue with player movement in some underwater areas at Thicket Excavations.
Resolved issue that could cause corruption within the Settlement system resulting in wrong resource counts and/or destroyed settlements.
Resolved issue where the “Level Up” notification would display even if there was not a level up available.
Fixed some flickering in Vault 111.
Stability improvements.
General stability improvements
Fixed visual issue with certain imagespaces
Auto HDR is re-enabled (Xbox Series S|X)
Fixed issue where reserved space was not displayed correctly in load order menu (Xbox Series S|X)
Fixed issue with character name field when in widescreen mode. (PC)
Fixed an issue that occasionally caused bundles to not fully download and could cause a crash
Fixed an issue with material swaps
Fixed an issue with load order that would break DLC until a restart after downloading mods (PlayStation 5)
Fixed an issue that would occasionally cause a crash if you returned to the Main Menu with queued mods still downloading (PlayStation 5)
Fixed an issue that could cause the Creation Club menu to not appear (Microsoft Store)
Fixed a crash that could occur when connecting to the network after a suspend/resume with the network disabled (Xbox One)

There were also some other platform specific bug fixes for PS5 and Xbox Series S/X as well as some bug fixes for the Creation Kit

[🆄🅽🅲🅻🅴 🅹🅾]

Originally posted by cjbarger:

The Next-Gen update is dead because it's a failure no more update patches

It's dead huh, according to who? Did you run a census or something, or did you run some before and after comparisons using player number statistics? Would you mind sharing your results then?

No?

Thought so.

Then; it's "dead because it's a failure no more update patches". WTH does that even mean?

The logic at work here is mind numbing.

[Infinivex]

well i been loving it

[wtf]

i enjoy this

[AngleBoi7]

Originally posted by Xenophobe:

next-gen should have been an optional free DLC, that way existing functional nexus mods that are no longer actively maintained wouldn't have been decimated.

LIke Skyrim Anniversary Edition?

[chakkman]

Originally posted by cjbarger:

The Next-Gen update is dead because it's a failure no more update patches

This doesn't make any sense.

[-={LG}=-]

Originally posted by Docsprock:

Its a failure because millions of people are enjoying it and you are not?

There's about 24,000 people playing Fallout 4 on Steam at the moment. Where do you come up with "millions?"

Originally posted by patrick68794:

fixed...

But perish the thought you want "The Silver Shroud" to run right or be able to zone in and out of a building in under 43 seconds. Come on man, that list is a bunch of obscure corporate speak. It's total ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

They didn't fix ♥♥♥♥, they just busted everything up for non-corporate modders and then forced a bunch of totally lame corporate mods written by total strangers on the internet into your game whether you wanted them or not.

[SandTag]

Originally posted by -={LG}=-:

Originally posted by Docsprock:

Its a failure because millions of people are enjoying it and you are not?

There's about 24,000 people playing Fallout 4 on Steam at the moment. Where do you come up with "millions?"

Originally posted by 🆄🅽🅲🅻🅴 🅹🅾:

Originally posted by cjbarger:

The Next-Gen update is dead because it's a failure no more update patches

It's dead huh, according to who? Did you run a census or something, or did you run some before and after comparisons using player number statistics? Would you mind sharing your results then?

No?

Thought so.

Then; it's "dead because it's a failure no more update patches". WTH does that even mean?

The logic at work here is mind numbing.

Originally posted by wtiger27:

Originally posted by Xenophobe:

next-gen should have been an optional free DLC, that way existing functional nexus mods that are no longer actively maintained wouldn't have been decimated.

I would be ok with that. I would have bought it in a heart beat. The Update has been great for myself. Not had any major issues with any of it. Lots of extra content was added. I appreciate Beth doing that.

The OP is dead wrong with the exception for himself it might be a failure. But for a lot of other players, it has been great.

Look at all these fanboys, heres a fact check
https://store.steampowered.com/app/540810/Fallout_4__High_Resolution_Texture_Pack/

People hate the nextgen update, get over yourself, it sucks, it broke peoples mods, its comically oversized and hardly makes the game look better.