Fallout: London - Whatever happened to Vortex?

[VigilanteJustice]

I love mods. But I'm not smart enough to install them. I've tried. Believe me...I've tried. But I'm not David from War Games. I used to use Vortex from Nexusmods, as it was the Steam of mods.

Quick, easy, and I could turn the mods I wanted on and off on a whim. Amazing software. Now no one uses it anymore...all that's left is "Manual" downloads. Why?

I'm not good at zipping and unzipping files and moving these particular folders over from here, but leave the other ones to install later over there, and then click on .exe to install on a previously downloaded version of......

Are you starting to see why I start to get a migraine every time I try to start using mods? Thanks for any help or video links to some help. It's like trying to play a puzzle game, lol.

[🆄🅽🅲🅻🅴 🅹🅾]

Vortex is alive and well and working as advertised, what makes you say "no one uses it anymore"?

I find that typically, when there's only the "Manual" download option, you have to first choose the files you want, and after you've done that, Vortex does the rest.

[Jarells]

Vortex is still used even in regard to fallout, its just that the bethesda game modders tend to use FOMM-Fall out mod manager or Mod organizer 2 if skyrim.

I find it annoying as well but for some reason a lot of fallout mods on nexus just don't work with vortex, and have to be done manually.

[SchleiferGSX]

Just because it says Manual download doesnt mean you cant use Vortex .

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Originally posted by Jarells:

I find it annoying as well but for some reason a lot of fallout mods on nexus just don't work with vortex, and have to be done manually.

Nexus started out as a fansite for Morrowind modders and branched out from there. The most mods there to this day are probably all Bethesda mods.

Old-school Bethesda modders still use Wrye Bash which is still in development. It's the most powerful mod manager for Creation Engine games. Probably some of those old-school mods need to be repackaged from BAIN to something Vortex can recognize, or may be missing something special to download directly into the mod manager.

I spent a lot of hours repackaging mods so they'd work in Wrye lol! Never knew anyone had to repackage for Vortex, but then I've never used anything on a Bethesda game but Wrye.

[Nitemares]

As others have said, Vortex is still in use.

Heck, its THE mod manager of Nexus - the only one they support in house!

But as others have also pointed out, its not the preferred tool of older Bethesda modders.

Vortex is a strong mod manager for the beginner: its easy to understand, easy to use, and install. But that also means it comes with limitations.


Now, as to Vortex and FOLON:

Vortex was designed to keep your original game files "safe" from being manipulated by mods, so that you didn't have to worry about broken files, or corruption of base assets. And this is a good idea for 90% of modders out there, and 95% of mods in general.

HOWEVER, Folon was made by design to override certain baseline game files - a function Vortex was EXPRESSLY made to stop...

As a result, the Vortex team -at this time- is unsure if Vortex will install FOLON, and are looking into coding a work around if it does not. (testing underway)...

It should be noted as well: the FOLON team is also unsure if MO2 will install FOLON correctly as it too uses a "file separation" system to preserve game file integrity. (Again, testing is underway)..

Some people are claiming you can install FOLON through MO2, But, its unclear if its actually working (just because the mod and game start and loads, doesn't mean the game/mod works as intended.... missing assets, files, textures, and scripts are all still possible, leading to a corrupted game only after hours of play)


As with any of these huge mods are basically "rewrites" of a game: its never easy to install, or to remove. (looking at you Enderal, Tale of Two Wastelands, Forgotten City, Etc)

[Alpine_Equinox]

I used to use vortex myself back in 2020 but it kept messing with the game files too much for me to use it anymore. I moved over to MO2 and its been pretty easy sailing, it operates just as easily as Vortex if not better once you get a hang of it. Plus MO2 works fine when modding fallout london for the last 8 hours I have played while modding with it (I did install london through GOG and not MO2 though). I suggest just biting the bullet and trying it, gamerpoets has a really straight forward video on it iirc