How to get rid of Dr. Ayo?

[Xenon The Noble]

I just don't like the guy. Did his second gopher job, this time I read it. He needs to be disposed of.
I did a quick save and just shot him. It quickly turned into war against the institute. It was going well but I could see I needed more ammo, and just like Bethesda, the "essential characters" just didn't die and would get back up and resume shooting.
Is there anyway to get rid of Dr. Ayo? I get that all factions are evil, but this just getting tiresome.

[Chaosium]

Minutemen and RR aren't evil though

But nope, can't get rid of an important faction member and get away with it, at this point might as well wipe out the entire institute (which is the right way to go)

[Xenon The Noble]

If I read the spoilers correctly, the MM nuke Boston to kill all the Institute men women and children as well as anyone living above the Institute, and the RR doesn't care about any life except sim life, and then they wipe their brains and make them into their own image. and the BOS is "kill 'em all" and they leave their "brothers" to die.
All of them are wicked.
Gonna go back to a save where Preston is still in the museum, Danse is still fighting ghouls, and the Railroad is still kidnapping synths and reprogramming them. Besides, type 1 & 2 synths are a good source of fusion cells.
Besides, most of the faction related quests are glitching and you can't do stuff you want to do, like replace Dr. Ayo with someone who isn't a sniveling little rude sociopath.

[V]

Originally posted by Xenon The Noble:

If I read the spoilers correctly, the MM nuke Boston to kill all the Institute men women and children as well as anyone living above the Institute, and the RR doesn't care about any life except sim life, and then they wipe their brains and make them into their own image. and the BOS is "kill 'em all" and they leave their "brothers" to die.
All of them are wicked.
Gonna go back to a save where Preston is still in the museum, Danse is still fighting ghouls, and the Railroad is still kidnapping synths and reprogramming them. Besides, type 1 & 2 synths are a good source of fusion cells.
Besides, most of the faction related quests are glitching and you can't do stuff you want to do, like replace Dr. Ayo with someone who isn't a snivelling little rude sociopath.

Despite how much i hate the minute men or i guess just Preston, saying ''the MM nuke Boston to kill all the Institute men women and children as well as anyone living above the Institute'' is not exactly accurate Preston asks the your character to execute the evacuation routine this evacuation routine leads everyone out the safest exit of the institute most likely thru the C.I.T building the minute men area already surrounding the C.I.T area so those evacuations don't just extend to outside they extend to the entire blast radius of the nuke...meaning any innocent people in the area would have already been evacuated by the time you get out institute building and be standing on the roof ready to flip the switch.

so its up to you if they kill that many people and even on top of that if you faIL to adhere to Preston's ask of you saving the casualties he will be EXTREMELY angry at you lmao.

further more your description of the railroad isn't entirely accurate either the railroad give any synth escapee the choice for their minds to be wiped or to remain the same so its actually the synths making themselves into our image not the other way around but that's really just semantics either way the point is none of that is by force they offer aid and choice to synths....but on them caring about only synths is partly true they care more about synths than humans because synths have more enemies synths have not only the institute to deal with but also the normal human of the common wealth most normal humans have a seething hatred towards synths and a deep fear of them they usually kill synths on sight if they are discovered....not to mention the majority of the wasteland do not want help from everyone this is even shown in how normal scavvers or citizens of any major city in the common wealth tell us to get out their face or don't even talk to them....what exactly does anyone think the railroad can do for the common wealth the railroad themselves are constantly operating on Rations they can barely help themselves just look at literally any quest you do with the railroad every railroad op is operating on the least resources out of any faction even if they wanted to help the common wealth citizens as well as synths 1. the common wealth don't want nothing to do with them and 2. they barely have enough resources to help synths alone.

Now for the brotherhood of steel this description is also not really accurate this ''kill them all'' and they leave their brothers to die thing is completely untrue LOL idk if you are willingly trying to miss-characterise the factions but you are completely off base i literally just did the BOS quest-line for one of my new characters the BOS evacuate their own soldiers away from the blast regardless of if you decide to actually initiate the institute evacuation now granted they do not try to evacuate civilians away from there because that's one thing we can agree on they only care about civilians that can actually benefit their cause whether its through trade or maintaining BOS outposts or agreements with scribes and civilians to excavate important sites....saying these factions are evil is just a generalisation now i could agree BOS is somewhat bad but not evil they still try to help the common wealth they just have a no nonsense approach to it if you don't go by their rules and their way of things you can fend for yourself for all they care.

now bare in mind i for the most part agree with you on some parts of this lmfao but it seems like you just want to say they are evil rather than actually have real substantiated evidence for them being ''evil'' you really mis-characterised these factions in a way that makes it seem like you are just doing it to make your point rather than it being a prerequisite of your point.

[DouglasGrave]

Originally posted by Xenon The Noble:

I just don't like the guy. Did his second gopher job, this time I read it. He needs to be disposed of.
I did a quick save and just shot him. It quickly turned into war against the institute. It was going well but I could see I needed more ammo, and just like Bethesda, the "essential characters" just didn't die and would get back up and resume shooting.
Is there anyway to get rid of Dr. Ayo? I get that all factions are evil, but this just getting tiresome.

There is an Institute quest called "Plugging a Leak", where one of the two outcomes allows Justin Ayo to be replaced.

However most people will miss it entirely because you only get it after the "Mankind - Redefined" mission and (more importantly) it only appears if you haven't completed the Tradecraft quest to join the Railroad.

https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Plugging_a_Leak

[danconnors]

It's possible to get rid of all four groups in one game. I know it is because I've done it twice. Here's a hint: If you never join the Minutemen they never return to existence. That's one group down; three to go.

[wtiger27]

Originally posted by DouglasGrave:

Originally posted by Xenon The Noble:

I just don't like the guy. Did his second gopher job, this time I read it. He needs to be disposed of.
I did a quick save and just shot him. It quickly turned into war against the institute. It was going well but I could see I needed more ammo, and just like Bethesda, the "essential characters" just didn't die and would get back up and resume shooting.
Is there anyway to get rid of Dr. Ayo? I get that all factions are evil, but this just getting tiresome.

There is an Institute quest called "Plugging a Leak", where one of the two outcomes allows Justin Ayo to be replaced.

However most people will miss it entirely because you only get it after the "Mankind - Redefined" mission and (more importantly) it only appears if you haven't completed the Tradecraft quest to join the Railroad.

https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Plugging_a_Leak

There is actually another way to not use Ayo for the BOS quest. In essence, replacing her with another scientist from DC.

[wtiger27]

Originally posted by Xenon The Noble:

If I read the spoilers correctly, the MM nuke Boston to kill all the Institute men women and children as well as anyone living above the Institute, and the RR doesn't care about any life except sim life, and then they wipe their brains and make them into their own image. and the BOS is "kill 'em all" and they leave their "brothers" to die.
All of them are wicked.
Gonna go back to a save where Preston is still in the museum, Danse is still fighting ghouls, and the Railroad is still kidnapping synths and reprogramming them. Besides, type 1 & 2 synths are a good source of fusion cells.
Besides, most of the faction related quests are glitching and you can't do stuff you want to do, like replace Dr. Ayo with someone who isn't a sniveling little rude sociopath.

You should be giving the Evac order when you are down there getting ready to wipe them out using Saun's terminal. In Fact, Preston will be very pissed at you, if you do not.

The explosion does not kill that many above the Institute, except for some scum raiders and it is nothing on the scale of what bomb dropped in the Glowing Sea. Diamond City is not affected by it.

The Synths leave the Institute for a reason. They want to be free and choose their own path. The RR offers them that. A new life, free from the All Seeing Eye of the Institute. At least to a much bigger chance for a free life than still being in the Institute.

[DouglasGrave]

Originally posted by wtiger27:

Originally posted by DouglasGrave:

There is an Institute quest called "Plugging a Leak", where one of the two outcomes allows Justin Ayo to be replaced.

However most people will miss it entirely because you only get it after the "Mankind - Redefined" mission and (more importantly) it only appears if you haven't completed the Tradecraft quest to join the Railroad.

https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Plugging_a_Leak

There is actually another way to not use Ayo for the BOS quest. In essence, replacing her with another scientist from DC.

You're thinking of Dr. Li, who is part of Advanced Systems. Justin Ayo is the acting head of the SRB.

[wtiger27]

Originally posted by DouglasGrave:

Originally posted by wtiger27:

There is actually another way to not use Ayo for the BOS quest. In essence, replacing her with another scientist from DC.

You're thinking of Dr. Li, who is part of Advanced Systems. Justin Ayo is the acting head of the SRB.

Yes, you are right. I realized that shortly after I got off the computer, but had work to take care of outside. Thanks for the correction.