Help/ advices with modding optimisation/ load order

[Sankeirax]

Hi! I ask for help...

Some times ago i was obliged for various reasosn to uninstall fallout 4 and my mods.

Now i'm back to it again, i use vortex and quite a lot of mods but it was running perfectly before ( unless in urban areas but that's a known issue

It runs quite great but i have so fps drops now, moreover sometimes when i'm building my settlements, my fps drops to 30/40 fps constant for no reason while in the building menu, and whatever i do, i'm obliged to restart my game for it to run perfectly again!

Gtx 1070, i7 6700k, 16gb ram

Any help/ advices? Load order is horrible to manage in vortex... i use the auto sorting

I use the ifpsclamp=58 trick and disabled Vsync.

Load order : in vortex


* fallout 4 esm, dlc anf creation club content*
Unofficial fallout 4 patch
Snap'nbuild
Awkcr
Glock 86 ( weapon )
True storms
Decal stain remover delux
Sprint stutter remover
Faraway reform area
More uniques weapons
A bundle of tapes ( weapons mod)
Cvc dead wasteland
CROSS Mojave hunter ( clothes mod
Wattz laser weapond
Bull up bozar

All cvc wasteland dlc mod

See trought scopes (3dscopes.esp and its patches)
Children of goodneighboor ( from orphanz of the commonwealth

Woody wasteland stuff
Ncr raven armor
Wasteland sniper oufit
Reverb and ambiance overhaul
Quieter settlements
The four horsmen masks
Yk42b rifle
Hunting shotgun
Diamond city door auto close
Housekeeping
CROSS breakaction laser
Cross ruger
Animated canopies
Craftable animation markers
Swinging meat bags
Vivid Fallout ALL IN ONE
Minutemen propaganda
Bettercompanions
Female tactical armor
Functional displays
Windows boards
Extended weapons mods
Better generators
Basement livings
Balcony supports
Power armor quick animations
Settlement Menu Manager
Craftables lanterns
Skidaba weapon pack REDUX
Grease gun
Longer power lines
Truestorms fo4 far harbor
Truestorms fo4 nuka world
Darker nights
Lore friendly posters
Better cooking stations
Reverb and ambience overhaul true storm patch
Securitron for automatron
Classic super sledge
True storms earlier sunsets/extra rads esp

Immersive vendors
New brahmin feeder
Amorsmith extended
Eli armour compendium
Tactical flashlight+its settings esp
Azar ponytail
Scrap everything ultimate edition
Better settlers
Orphans of the commonwealth
Better settlers ESPs
Pip boy flashlight
We are the minutemen

Thank you if you can help...

[mal_kav]

Search google for Loot
Let it handle the load order if you don't know what to do. You can use it for a number of Bethesda games.

[Sankeirax]

Well, Vortex is Using loot, that's why i do not understand why my game is reacting like that.

[Vul†s]

Do not use LOOT to sort your load order. This is because LOOT master list for Fallout 4 is extremely small, which makes LOOT more trouble for you.

[Vul†s]

Also, i don't know if ifpsclamp it's something good, theres a lot of different opinions about. Try use ifpsclamp=61 or disable this function.

[Sankeirax]

Well, Vortex force you to use loot algorythm. Maybe i should go back to Nexus Mod Manager?

[Vul†s]

What do you mean with Vortex force you to use LOOT? Just don't use LOOT. You anyway don't need LOOT for nothing with F4. But that's just a tip, it's probably not the cause from your problem.

[Jouchebag]

Vortex automatically implements LOOT. Because LOOT is very very smart. It is smarter than the vast majority of people who mod these games. Let Vortex do it's job.

It's either:

Mods or mod incompatibility.

or

Graphics settings or drivers.

You said your fps was only an issue in the settlement editor/builder? That would point at mods that affect that. If you have a bunch of mods that add to the settlement menu, it will be slow. You might not be experiencing anything unusual.

[hawkeye]

Your cpu capability probably isn't good enough for 60 fps with your mod list / graphic settings. To a lesser extent memory and gpu speed could impact performance as well.

Sorting the mod list won't increase efficiency.

Opening the workshop is the heaviest script load. Scripts use cpu. All mods use cpu too to varying extents e.g. via new scripts in the mod or the game's inbuilt functions. Objects added to the game will add load.

How good is your cpu? FO4 performance relies heavily on single thread speed -
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleThread.html

The 6700k is still a capable cpu but it's not much better than a 4790k. So go easy on the mods. Overclocking might give you a small boost.

Also, I would remove the ifpsclamp setting. It tells the cpu to slow down the game. Setting the fps in the driver is probably a better solution. I doubt that you will see an fps improvement but I think it would be more efficient.

A telltale sign the cpu is under the pump is the time that it takes for events to be processed. For example, if you assign a settler and the confirmation message isn't immediate then it means the processing has been queued behind other scripts. The unofficial patch and kinggaths workshop mods might help with this.

There is a script monitor mod that tries to assess the fps impact of the scripts running at any point in time.

The problem might be worse in "triangle of death" areas. Multiple sites within the ugrids range.

Would a faster cpu solve the problem? To some extent but script processing is fairly clunky so there will be a log-jam effect always. You can increase the time available to scripts, but that is unlikely to change fps. Hopefully a new engine will appear which will use the available cpu threads more efficiently.

[Bored Peon]

Originally posted by Sankeirax:

It runs quite great but i have so fps drops now, moreover sometimes when i'm building my settlements, my fps drops to 30/40 fps constant for no reason while in the building menu, and whatever i do, i'm obliged to restart my game for it to run perfectly again!

Try this mod:
Faster Workshop
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/35382

Basically the mod changes the DLC ownership check from every time you open the workshop to once per session.