Game random but very fast quit's to desktop no warning(SOLVED).

[Llewellyn]

Closed. Solved.

Game quitting to desktop with no warning, pretty fast after loading. After setting it up and turning specific settings off made it run stable and managed to make the application utilize the gpu(though a laugh on much recourses it take's, hardware doesn't even have to sigh to run this). Also due to probably being outdated, lack of support software/hardware these day's.

[Jouchebag]

Turn off Weapon Debris in the Launcher Options.

[Llewellyn]

Didn't help, weapon debris is also not something that occure's all the time.

[Jouchebag]

Well tweaks shouldn't be necessary to make the game run. I'm wondering if you didn't play with something and break it yourself.

Check to make sure you have the application (FO4) set to use your high performance GPU in your graphics control panel.

Perhaps updating graphics card drivers.

You never gave us specs either.

[Jouchebag]

Originally posted by Magnus Berrføtt:

Didn't help, weapon debris is also not something that occure's all the time.

Doesn't matter. Just having the setting on can crash the game. You don't need to fire a shot.

[Llewellyn]

Don't doubt me and my knowledge please, I cannot have broken it cause the problem occured before the first thing I've touched and the game should be a piece of cake to run with hardware that has more than enough power compared to recommended spec's to run the game plus it's not even 2 years old. the link must be with the error message not detecting hardware.

[Llewellyn]

And like i said I've tried about everything I could find allready, it ran with plus 100 fps in the beginning but quitted itself, capping everything, I've tried vsync on and of in 3 diff way's, tweak here, tweak there, varius kind's of setting's and adjustment's adding and removing, the only thing I can think of is it's just not hooking onto the hardware and by that will not utilize the hardware the way it should, I wouldn't be surprised I can run it with another pc that is more from the time when the game came out.

[Jouchebag]

Right... well, good luck getting any help without telling us your settings, specs, driver version, or if you have mods.

[Jouchebag]

Originally posted by Magnus Berrføtt:

it ran with plus 100 fps in the beginning but quitted itself

Yeah the game can't be run in excess of 60 fps without being modded.

[SkepticJoker]

Look into how to use Display Driver Uninstaller.

[Llewellyn]

Originally posted by Jouchebag:

Originally posted by Magnus Berrføtt:

Didn't help, weapon debris is also not something that occure's all the time.

Doesn't matter. Just having the setting on can crash the game. You don't need to fire a shot.

I can imagine it could give a bug or malfunction overall but in my case didn't do the trick

Originally posted by Jouchebag:

Right... well, good luck getting any help without telling us your settings, specs, driver version, or if you have mods. :bird:

i5 cpu 4ghz plus with RTX 2060 super, on a H310 plus pro motherboard, current driver version: 471.96.

The game runs as bare as can be that is vanilla,no mod's or any add on or anything external or 3rd party. I barely use mod's for game's unless something is too annoying or malfunctioning, except Arma but that's a different story, it does utilize and run newer open world games just fine.

Originally posted by Jouchebag:

Originally posted by Magnus Berrføtt:

it ran with plus 100 fps in the beginning but quitted itself

Yeah the game can't be run in excess of 60 fps without being modded.

That was exactly the first things that I read on forums when I started searching for a solution so it was with the very first 2-3 thing's I've tried.

Just sick and tired these days last few week's been only playing game's even more recent AAA game title and even them we as players still need to fix. I wish it was 2000 again when I still played on pc with physical discs and never had any problem's.

Thnx for your thought's, idea's and effort on this at least;)

[Llewellyn]

Originally posted by SkepticJoker:

Look into how to use Display Driver Uninstaller.

Uninstalling my driver mmm... and I know how to get it uninstalled also in ways that it will remove even all the leftovers, registry key's, did a rollback allready this week. And I think the most essential driver's that may have done hard effect on this game are outdated and were released in the time more recent after releasing the game correct me if I'm wrong but maybe the last 2-3 years the newer driver's maybe contained minor impact changes or tweaks. Would be odd though but maybe the card is just too recent.

The problem sit's somewhere in the game not detecting my hardware, that's why it doesnt utilize it. Therefore it run's on a base grade(lowest settings). In that way it will and stay running but I'm not accepting that. If I can make it detect my hardware or maybe fool it by detecting any kind of card that has enough power to run it might do the trick.

[Llewellyn]

Managed it to run on 60 fps by resetting everything going back to fresh start, got the message again can't detect hardware then set aa to TAA(best quality) aniso filtering on 16 then I've set detail to ultra and motion blur and weapon debris off beside that didnt touch anything(godray's and SSAO, before I turned them up to highest setting possible) and kept windowed and borderless opted out, then turned vsync off in ini file and changed the value of iAdapter in ini file to 1, capped frame's with Nvidia control panel beside some other parameter's set. That is and in that exact order to make it to run and keep running and have the full fps(ofcourse capped).

If I change it in any other order I've allready tried it will or not utilize gpu or it will run ♥♥♥♥♥♥ in any other way. For example yesterday set up all setting's on highest and it will run with fullest fps but capped to 60 it will utilize gpu but quit's then i tried Jouchebag's tip turning only weapon debris off then the application cant manage it in a good way and fps strangely dropped to 41 without the use of gpu. But in the order like above it will work, strangely but that is how this game handle's it obviously and seem's or sensitive in a certain way or just straight buggy.

Note the capping to 60 might also lower the usage's.
Right now the gpu usage is around 33% and power around 30-40% cpu usage around 30%, this all in idle when moving it fluctiate's wich is normal but none reaching even 50%.
Gpu temperature around 50 degree Celcius and cpu temperature between 40 and 45 degree Celcius lol this way you might start to think you can even run this on integrated graphic's if dedicated run's it below 50%. Wich is fine as long as it maintain's performance but rather I see number's higher and that I get the impression it actually need's to work a little bit. For an open world game you would assume more usage and load's but when moving and with explosion's for example I expect to see higher numbers. DayZ for example is a game that is older but there gpu power is in 90% and usage too. This game has just weird behaviour or bug's if it come's to how it utilizes hardware.

It seems this is the only way for now to make it run keep it running and with the use of hardware/gpu. Rather I want it run even with all option's on(weapon debris and HBAO+ and godray's) but if it make's it quit or completely unutilize hardware then staying on this set up is fine at least everything else is on ultra.

Thnx for the thought's and tip's on this.

[Raccy]

Hey I believe I had a similar issue with the sudden CTD even tho having the bare minimum of mods (I only use about 22 max) For me it only occurred in character creation and scrolling through workshop items.
I run the graphics mixed for the purpose of not having a lagfest in the more populated cities/areas despite my PC being way over the recommended, they should honestly just release a remaster already to fix this BS engine.

Anyway I fixed my random CTD issues by installing a few mods that may solve your issue too and allow you to play over 60FPS.

Buffout 4 -and all of it's requirements.-
Weapon debris crash fix.
High FPS physics fix.
(These are mostly engine fixes so perhaps they'll help)

I'm unsure if you tried this already but in case you haven't, I hope this helps! :)

[Llewellyn]

Originally posted by Raccy:

Hey I believe I had a similar issue with the sudden CTD even tho having the bare minimum of mods (I only use about 22 max) For me it only occurred in character creation and scrolling through workshop items.
I run the graphics mixed for the purpose of not having a lagfest in the more populated cities/areas despite my PC being way over the recommended, they should honestly just release a remaster already to fix this BS engine.

Anyway I fixed my random CTD issues by installing a few mods that may solve your issue too and allow you to play over 60FPS.

Buffout 4 -and all of it's requirements.-
Weapon debris crash fix.
High FPS physics fix.
(These are mostly engine fixes so perhaps they'll help)

I'm unsure if you tried this already but in case you haven't, I hope this helps! :)

I've taken the use of mod's in concidering but rather vanilla, thing is we shoulldnt be fixing games. We are the customer's. But for a game 6 years old I'm fine with this. It's just it was sitting in my library, rusting away... thought give it a try but the game seem's quite sensitive buggy or just lacking the ability to work with more modern hardware systems. Thnx anyway

[hawkeye]

The game uses only 3 cpu threads heavily, so 30% cpu usage could actually mean the cpu is running at max performance. Depends on the cpu. 30% as a score is meaningless.

The cpu produces the fps. the gpu just does what the cpu tells it to. Limiting the fps to 60 could reduce the load on the cpu and gpu.

Weapon debris set to Enabled will definitely crash the game for rtx and later gtx cards as the drivers no longer support all the functions that weapon debris uses.

Other than that you can turn any other effect to full if you want. You could also possibly use Dynamic Super Resolution in the nvidia control panel which will give a better visual experience than higher fps. DSR will use more gpu but not cpu.

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/technologies/dsr/technology/