CClub DLC's broke my game

[Fokkas]

I've had several of them (backpack, onyx pip boy, some dogs, most of the DLC guns, the ultimate paint packs, several picket fence docs), and never had any issues. Now last night I decided to shell out $25 and bought the Tunnel Snakes Rules, Sentinel (power armor), and CL## gun DLCs - now my game just stutters and I can barely move or use menus and after about 30 seconds to a minute the game CTD.

I can't believe that Bethesda has this stuff on the market and they vet for it and they still cause the most basic of crashes. To think I spent 25 bucks to brick my game. I've disabled mods, verified my files to no help.

Any chance this Next Gen update that claims to "fix creation club" will fix these DLCs?

[Togo]

Buddy you can get everything for free why are you doing

[Paladin Dawnheart]

This was common knowledge when CC came out.

Why are you buying anything from CC anyway? There are countless mods that are equal or better than anything on CC.

CC downloads all the content on your PC and if you had or have any other mods, it will cause problems to your overall game.

CC is a scam.

Do a clean uninstall and install it again. You'll have to decide to use CC garbage or other mods. But you only have 1 more day to download mods before the update ruins them.

[Kamikaze$X-GEN$]

yeah better avoid creation club content they aren't even that well and really not worth the price. I still regret buying some workshop assets that promised modern day architecture which was almost true, but they have no modern stairs....
You get everything for free on Nexus or even on their modding site. No need to buy from the ingame mod shop.

[Death Approaches]

Tunnel Snakes Rule! is a known nightmare... it breaks so many people's games, and this is the problem with CC, there's no Posts section to read "THIS WILL BREAK YOUR GAME UNLESS YOU DO THE FOLLOWING!!" etc kind of posts like you'll find on nexusmods...

There's nothing wrong with CC per se, but they're just mods ... it was supposed to be fully curated, debugged, 100% guaranteed working submissions... but that's not how it played out, when they didn't get enough and they were embarrassed, they just started letting mod creators host any ol thing, then poaching even paying people to make only CC mods for them, etc.

BTW you might be hosed. Most people once installing it, have to start a new character. You can make it work, if you delete Fallout 4 completely, reinstall, reinstall your known working mods, start a new character, play up through meeting the Minutemen, then exiting and installing TSR! -- there's guides on this in various places, search here, Fallout and FO4 subreddits, gamefaqs, even nexusmods - there does exist a mod called no-autostart tunnel snakes rule you might want to check out.

Or, you know, beg them to credit it back since it's a PITA.

Then again it's a day and a half til the update, might want to see how that plays out first.

[Fokkas]

Originally posted by Death Approaches:

Tunnel Snakes Rule! is a known nightmare... it breaks so many people's games, and this is the problem with CC, there's no Posts section to read "THIS WILL BREAK YOUR GAME UNLESS YOU DO THE FOLLOWING!!" etc kind of posts like you'll find on nexusmods...

There's nothing wrong with CC per se, but they're just mods ... it was supposed to be fully curated, debugged, 100% guaranteed working submissions... but that's not how it played out, when they didn't get enough and they were embarrassed, they just started letting mod creators host any ol thing, then poaching even paying people to make only CC mods for them, etc.

BTW you might be hosed. Most people once installing it, have to start a new character. You can make it work, if you delete Fallout 4 completely, reinstall, reinstall your known working mods, start a new character, play up through meeting the Minutemen, then exiting and installing TSR! -- there's guides on this in various places, search here, Fallout and FO4 subreddits, gamefaqs, even nexusmods - there does exist a mod called no-autostart tunnel snakes rule you might want to check out.

Or, you know, beg them to credit it back since it's a PITA.

Then again it's a day and a half til the update, might want to see how that plays out first.

This is the mod that was doing it. I was way beyond the start of the game, but seems once I installed Tunnel Snakes Rule! - it just breaks the game in general. After removing this DLC, my game ran just fine all night (2 hours).

As for why I chose to pay for and use CClub content is because I respect Bethesda's decision to allow this type of content and I like supporting their game beyond just buying the game. I'd have no issues paying for a subscription to their other games like Fallout 76 or ESO, it's just I don't particularly like the concept designs of either of those games. Also, in the past I have had way way too many issues with nexus mods in the past between TES Morrowind, Oblivion, Skyrim, and FO4 such as having them completely break my game for one reason or another that I barely trust having 10 mods in any of these games. I like to have 1000s of hours into a character and too many times I've watched it all go away because a mod has a dirty script or some other garbage that permanently breaks or corrupts my game. And ideally, CClub content (and the in-game modding section), seems to have much safer and cleaner mods than what's offered on Nexus - and in my experience, it's true.

[Zekiran]

You need to be more picky and educate yourself about every single mod you put on your game. Obviously if you "tried nexus and got burned" and then have a *game breaking crash from Bethesda's PAID mods* ...

They're all likely to crash or cause issues. It's not exclusive to either of them. But at least with Nexus mods, you get actual user comments and bug reports, where Bethesda's is... not so much.

[PeaceMaker]

Originally posted by Fokkas:

I've had several of them (backpack, onyx pip boy, some dogs, most of the DLC guns, the ultimate paint packs, several picket fence docs), and never had any issues. Now last night I decided to shell out $25 and bought the Tunnel Snakes Rules, Sentinel (power armor), and CL## gun DLCs - now my game just stutters and I can barely move or use menus and after about 30 seconds to a minute the game CTD.

I can't believe that Bethesda has this stuff on the market and they vet for it and they still cause the most basic of crashes. To think I spent 25 bucks to brick my game. I've disabled mods, verified my files to no help.

Any chance this Next Gen update that claims to "fix creation club" will fix these DLCs?

sigh, we keep telling people not to use Bethesda's CC. More or less all the guy's trying to warn you are spot on- and most of us have YEARS of experience even over Bethesda's CC. It's a con to take your money and the Mods aren't even all checked any more than the free ones for compatibility.

But you won't listen since you get excited by shiny things that look official, like the tv show.

I give up trying to warn you new guys from entering the tar pit.

[Darth Revan]

I have almost all creation club content except for a few paintjobs and I never had the problem you described personally.
(Despite the fact that i have over 100 mods from nexusmods and Bethesda. net installed alongside the creation club stuff)

[Finical]

WHY did you spend $25 on Creation Club crap? I can get claiming them while they're free, I did that with a ton of them particularly on PS4, but paying money? Are you off your rocker? Nothing in there is worth giving Bethesda your money. Mods all do it better anyway.

But yes, the Tunnel Snakes CC content is notorious for breaking scripts. As are the CC player houses you can buy. I have heard there are fixes for CC content in the form of mods, but I do not know what or where they are. You're probably better off just deleting the files and never downloading them again.

And hopefully you've learned a lesson about trusting Bethesda with your money. If the game weren't so cheap on PC, I'd never have bought Fallout 4 after the experience I had with crashing during its free weekend some years back.

[EricHVela]

I've read nothing other than bad things about CC even for vanilla games—not referring to MTX but to the content quality and effect the CC content has on the game. I wouldn't risk it.

I support Bethsoft on good stuff, but CC didn't seem like it was good stuff just from what I read.

[Augustus666]

I have almost every CC there is. I use only graphic mods. No problems whatsoever

[Kamikaze$X-GEN$]

Originally posted by EricHVela:

I've read nothing other than bad things about CC even for vanilla games—not referring to MTX but to the content quality and effect the CC content has on the game. I wouldn't risk it.

I support Bethsoft on good stuff, but CC didn't seem like it was good stuff just from what I read.

yeah they aren't really that great as a Pc gamer you have way better choices out there for free.

[socialmediaaddress3]

There is nothing fundamentally wrong with supporting CC club content.
All those guys who say "just get it for free" lose track of the fact that we need those studios just as much as they need us.
But but mods that are script heavy I would definelty do some searches first.
Should Beth pull that mod?
yes .

[Kamikaze$X-GEN$]

Originally posted by Major D'Saster:

Patches for CC content at
https://next.nexusmods.com/profile/ChibiCD/mods?gameId=1151

yeah its funny how free modders need to fix paid modders mods. Thats something I find really sad. Like they didn't care what they just released since they knew someone will fix them for them or at least attempt to, since I don't really use CC mods I never needed fixes.

[worm_master]

I 2 have a lot of CC stuff.... BUT not Tunnel snakes, the folks warning against CC are just SOUR, they updated Skyrim recently...... OMFG, the amount of wailing and gnashing of teeth, all I have is some CC stuff, an I can though 100% running without a scratch.... I'm fully expecting to come though FO4 update with out a hitch as well.. :-)