I don't understand Bethesda's thinking

[Moo]

It seemed like with the launch of the TV show, it would have been the perfect time to launch the next Fallout game. Sales for Fallout 5 would have been through the roof. We are seeing lots of interest in Fallout 4 and some in Fallout 76 again. But Fallout 4 is almost 10 years old, and 76 still is not good. That means at the end of the day, Bethesda missed out on a great opportunity. Instead of capitalizing bigly, they will only get a tiny fraction trying to squeeze out what little they can out of 4 and 76.

[EricHVela]

They probably didn't have the resources to split the single-player narrative party for both the excessively belated Starfield and a new FO, especially when the roadmap was stated to be another TES first.

It's more complicated than that as development teams often aren't clearly defined before (planning), during (development), and after (support) for a production, but that's the gist of it.

[Moo]

Season 1 is usually when you get the most hype and good will. By season 5, they'll have run the show into the ground. Kinda like they did with Westworld, The Witcher, The Man in the High Castle, etc... Assuming it Amazon hasn't canceled the show by then.

[Nats]

They might already be making Fallout 5 for all you know. Personally I think Fallout 4 will not be bettered.

[PeaceMaker]

Originally posted by jeem1972:

It seemed like with the launch of the TV show, it would have been the perfect time to launch the next Fallout game. Sales for Fallout 5 would have been through the roof. We are seeing lots of interest in Fallout 4 and some in Fallout 76 again. But Fallout 4 is almost 10 years old, and 76 still is not good. That means at the end of the day, Bethesda missed out on a great opportunity. Instead of capitalizing bigly, they will only get a tiny fraction trying to squeeze out what little they can out of 4 and 76.

I think they thought their Starfailed game would be such a huge success that they never needed to make much effort towards fallout, even with the advertisement of the show.

I bet they wished they'd released a fallout 5 instead now!

[A. Silvermane]

Originally posted by jeem1972:

It seemed like with the launch of the TV show, it would have been the perfect time to launch the next Fallout game.

Yeah because Bethesda just has Fallout 5 all completed and awaiting release on a hard-drive somewhere.

Bethesda just completed Starfield, they are now working on Elder Scrolls 6, unless they got some shadow team working on Fallout 5 it'll be a decade at best before we see another Fallout game.

[wesnef]

Originally posted by seven_stars:

Then 2018 F76. Then 2023 Starfield.

Covid probably added some extra time in there, so I'm not sure if I'd use it as pattern.


Hmm, I'd thought that Starfield was going extra slow, but it seems I misremembered the time between release & DLC for earlier games.
Skyrim came out in early November 2011, and Dawnguard only came at the end of July 2012.
Meanwhile, Fallout 4 came out early November 2015, and Automatron was in late March 16 (it didn't add a lot of map area) with Far Harbor in mid May 16.

Originally posted by A. Silvermane:

Bethesda just completed Starfield,

And it still *has* to have at least one DLC, since they pre-sold it with the deluxe edition. They can't just give up & declare Starfield a loss.
Plus, well, it definitely needs some more patching. And the modding tools to be released.

[SnoLight]

so if you read a article (i know sounds crazy) multiple sources would of informed you that fallout 5 is coming after the elder scrolls 6

[SnoLight]

Originally posted by jeem1972:

Originally posted by seven_stars:

I don't get why they could not run development in parallel. Like working on Elder Scrolls and Fallout at the same time. Development times have gotten nuts. Fallout 3 was like 2009, then 2011 they had Skyrim, then 2015 Fallout 4. Then 2018 F76. Then 2023 Starfield. So 2026 maybe ES, 15 years since the last. 2030 Fallout 5? 15 years since Fallout 4? That is just stupid.

I think they want to take their time, make sure their games have cutting edge graphics, be bugs free, and have it just work on day one.

Is this a joke?

[Fumo Bnnuy n Frends]

their last / latest game for awhile is literally a live service FO76

i DOUBT HIGHLY they'll ever release another single player fallout game when it's like

well at this point expecting a HL3 L4d3 TF2 actual content non bug / patch / client side fixes update or sadly another bioshock game


the devs worth a damn left a long time ago for greener pastures and it's all about nostalgia and live service games now

[Kussin]

The show came just in time, considering its received very well, to regain some reputation they've lost after F76 and Starfield.

[seven_stars]

Originally posted by jeem1972:

Originally posted by seven_stars:

I don't get why they could not run development in parallel. Like working on Elder Scrolls and Fallout at the same time. Development times have gotten nuts. Fallout 3 was like 2009, then 2011 they had Skyrim, then 2015 Fallout 4. Then 2018 F76. Then 2023 Starfield. So 2026 maybe ES, 15 years since the last. 2030 Fallout 5? 15 years since Fallout 4? That is just stupid.

I think they want to take their time, make sure their games have cutting edge graphics, be bugs free, and have it just work on day one.

When have Bethesda games ever been bug free and work properly on day 1? That is not their plans.

[jeffy]

actually correction fallout 76 is very fun. Its great, it have enough content in the game to take you to level 150 then the game gets boring after that a bit.

tonnes of single player content has been added to this game too.

[vukotlak]

Originally posted by jeem1972:

It seemed like with the launch of the TV show, it would have been the perfect time to launch the next Fallout game.

The development of the game has nothing to do with the series. What if the series would had been a total disaster, then it would had been the absolut worsed time to release fallout 5.

Originally posted by jeem1972:

Sales for Fallout 5 would have been through the roof.

They will be through the roof no matter what.

Originally posted by jeem1972:

Bethesda missed out on a great opportunity. Instead of capitalizing bigly, they will only get a tiny fraction trying to squeeze out what little they can out of 4 and 76.

You think they do not get any money from the TV show?

They have been busy with other games. The tv show is the perfect way to keep the Franchise in the focus without the need to develop the next main title.

So let's say we get the next fallout in 2030.

If the 2024 series would had been a disaster then they would make 1-2 seasons and kill it and people would be over it in 2030.

If the series is a hit then it will probably get several seasons, maybe 5-7.

Eh voila now the Hit tv show has ended with it's grande finale and everyone is thirsting for more Fallout. Well lucky Bethesda has a game rdy around the corner.
Oh who could had foreseen that.

[Vuyek]

Originally posted by jeem1972:

I think they want to take their time, make sure their games have cutting edge graphics, be bugs free, and have it just work on day one.

you ARE joking ?

please say you are joking.

I can't tell anymore.

[[Admiral]Horatio]

I do wonder why people think Bethesda would consider Starfield a failure?
I believe it sold really well, and yielded a solid return on the investment Bethesda put into it.
By all important metrics, the game was a success.

Also all game developement takes a hell of a lot time these days, just look at Rockstar they're famous for this.