HELP!!! missalign map icons vanilla BUG

[Kazuma]

I recently came back to fallout and installed some mods
Installed F4seand Fallui as a base for the mods
then after all the work and configuration When I was playing I notice that the map Icons was missaligh with the map, like , a bit to the left and up from where it should be, even my player icon. like, I was in the middle of the road of sanctuary and my icon was almost in the river that passes north of sanctuary.
ok I tought it was the map mod. like it ewas in the past with the satelite map mod. nope it wasn't. Then I removed hud framework maybe it was the entire hud thing , so i remoded fallui, nope nothing. ok so let's try vanilla, smae thing. so maybe it's cause it has the remais of the mods, so I removed the f4se entirely, deleted the fallout 4 folder in my documents folder, uninstaled fallout 4 deleted the entire fo4 folder from steam, made sure to have a totally clean install of FO4 and..... same thing , in a clean install full vanilla after exiting vault 111 I made to sanctuary in the middle of the road and checked the pipboy map, it was missalign. I dunno what is the problem anymore. I can't fix it, already uninstall all the mods.
If anyone have an Idea of what else I can do. please help me

[sdack]

You will have left-over files in your Fallout 4 folder under Steam. You need to clear out everything before you reinstall the game.

Your problem with the map icons being wrong stems from using FallUI Map. The mod allows you to use higher resolution maps and in order for these to work does it need to scale the icons with the size of the map obviously. Hence are you now seeing the icons being wrong. FallUI Map has an entry in the Mod Config menu where you can manually adjust the scale to fit 2k, 4k or 8k maps. If you want to try installing these mods again then check there first and read the info in the Mod Config menu there.

[Kazuma]

Originally posted by sdack:

You will have left-over files in your Fallout 4 folder under Steam. You need to clear out everything before you reinstall the game.

Your problem with the map icons being wrong stems from using FallUI Map. The mod allows you to use higher resolution maps and in order for these to work does it need to scale the icons with the size of the map obviously. Hence are you now seeing the icons being wrong.

yes before I reinstaled the game I cleared all the files. in the my documents, steam, i deleted the f4se folder that I made a portable instance, everything, literally a clean install.
and yet I had this bug happening in a CLEAN install of the game., and yes I know that fallui have higher resolution maps and I configuered it to use the correct one but it was normal and working after I install everything that I needed to play, the map was working , everything was fine.
the problem started more than 10 hours after I started playing for real (before playing I wasted more than a day looking for mods installing and configuring each one to work with eachother). in the start of the playthough the map was right, everything was fine. but from nowhere when I was playing I notice that my character wasn't in the road in the map as I was. then I notice that a lot of markers was missalign where they should be, that wasn't thais way like 5 hours before when I was doing the Corvega mission for Oberland Station. all icons was normal before.
my problem started happening not when I installed a mod, or the lack of configuration , but mid game after all being fine.
after that i did what I did, tried fixing by disabling fallui, then by deleting the fallout.ini and prefab.ini both in f4se folder and documents folder, after tnot working I tried playing vanilla without disabling f4se but didn't work, then I gave up and unnistaled everything, fallout , f4se deleted all folders (f4se portable, my documents, fallout 4 steam folder) and reinstalled just the game on steam . but , the same thing happened missalign icons in a complete clean install of fallout 4

[sdack]

You delete everything in these folders, right?

C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Fallout 4\
Documents\My Games\Fallout4\
AppData\Local\Fallout4\

After reinstalling the game did you continue playing with the old savefiles or with a new game?

[Kazuma]

Originally posted by sdack:

You delete everything in these folders, right?

C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Fallout 4\
Documents\My Games\Fallout4\
AppData\Local\Fallout4\

After reinstalling the game did you continue playing with the old savefiles or with a new game?

not from AppData\Local\Fallout4\. I'll try deleting here and testing, thanks

but I started a new save file, everything was lost when I did the clean

I'll try deleting the appdata folder here

[Kazuma]

didn't work, same thing. new game after deleting everything.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3229599049
I'm in the middle of the sanctuary road in the junction with the path to vault 111

[sdack]

Originally posted by KazumaStrider:

didn't work, same thing. new game after deleting everything.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3229599049
I'm in the middle of the sanctuary road in the junction with the path to vault 111

I am not seeing the problem. Know that you are not the statue but the little triangular arrow pointing south-east. On the map you seem to have the path to Vault 111 right behind your back when you took the screen shot, right?

The statue is the icon for Sanctuary. The square with the little line below is a marker for where you need to go (-> Codsworth).

[Kazuma]

Originally posted by sdack:

Originally posted by KazumaStrider:

didn't work, same thing. new game after deleting everything.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3229599049
I'm in the middle of the sanctuary road in the junction with the path to vault 111

I am not seeing the problem. Know that you are not the statue but the little triangular arrow point south-east. On the map you seem to have the path to Vault 111 right behind your back when you took the screen shot, right?

I know that ,the probem is that I crossed the bridge and made to sanctuary , I'm the road of sactuary wait let me screenshot where I am

[Kazuma]

That's the problem.... I'm where my cursor is at:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3229614304
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3229614254
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3229614191
The second image (the globalmap) all icons are missalign where they should be
LocalMap (third image) is fine

[sdack]

The default map is not quite as accurate, I think. If it is a little bit off here and there then it is normal. Check further out and see whether the problem gets worse or if it is just some minor deviation now and then.

[Kazuma]

Originally posted by sdack:

The default map is not quite as accurate, I think. If it is a little bit off here and there then it is normal. Check further out and see whether the problem gets worse or if it is just some minor deviation now and then.

what do you mean Is not quite accurate, of course it is accurate, It always is, this deviation is literaly as if the map was shifted a little bit and suddenly everything is shifted, in the map, diamond city was in the middle of the river, the water station that you clear from the mutants for mrs white in the Graygarden quest was shifted to the left, hell covenant icon was in the middle of the lake so yeah , there is no intended deviaton and the map normaly is very accurate. but for the game simply refuses to fix it.

[sdack]

Originally posted by KazumaStrider:

what do you mean Is not quite accurate

Keep playing and see whether the inaccuracies get bigger. If you go three times as far south-east does the error get three times as big? What about five times? ...

[Kazuma]

Originally posted by sdack:

Originally posted by KazumaStrider:

what do you mean Is not quite accurate

Keep playing and see whether the inaccuracies get bigger. If you go three times as far south-east does the error get three times as big? What about five times? ...

Ok I'll test that

[Kazuma]

ok so I made some tests here and that is the results by walking south

my mouse cursor is where I should be in the map

sanctuary bridge:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3229672176
(this one my cursor was mouse cursor was off but I was in the center of the end of the bridge)
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3229672135
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3229672102

random junction south of Abernathy Farm:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3229672055

junction south of arcjet systems:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3229672023

near Electrical Hobbyist's Club:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3229671769
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3229671721

I made screen shots at junctions bc it is easier to locate myself, the hobbyst club one i didnt take in the junction but in the junction was a little bit to the left missalign
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3229671795 like this

[sdack]

Check out the wiki. It has pictures of the map you can use as reference. Here the one for the Club:
https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Electrical_Hobbyist%27s_Club?file=FO4_map_Electrical_Hobbyist%27s_Club.jpg

[halfmonkey]

Might seem counter-intuitive, but reinstall the map mod. If you haven't, check the load order of said mod and move it higher in the list.

If this doesn't fix it, make sure to move your character to an indoor cell and make a manual save. Uninstall the mod. Reload. Move to a different cell and save/quit again.

Last possible tip: Check that you're not loading a borked cloud save with the bug baked in. Use a local save and avoid using the "continue" button in game.