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Plastic didn't even exist pre war
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Ruin May 7, 2024 @ 2:13am 
Given that plastic has existed in some form (bakelite, etc) for well over a century now, and was created in the form we know it shortly post WW2 (IIRC) in our timeline (so before the two branch), what do you base that on?
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steventirey May 7, 2024 @ 2:23am 
Originally posted by 󠁳⁧⁧󠁳⁧⁧󠁳󠁳:
Plastic didn't even exist pre war

I don't think you know the date. The war in which the bombs dropped started in 2066, with the bombs themselves in 2077. Everyone just liked the 1950s aesthetic, so it never went away.

Besides that, the first fully synthetic plastic (bakelite) was invented in 1907. Plastic is one of those things that is older than you would think. So even if you had assumed the war being talked about was WW2, you would still be wrong.
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Knavenformed May 7, 2024 @ 2:56am 
The War you are talking about is still 40 years ahead compared to us
Last edited by Knavenformed; May 7, 2024 @ 3:09am
DANEDANGER May 7, 2024 @ 2:58am 
And in case your wondering about the real world version even there we has it from before wo1:steamthumbsup:

Belgian chemist and clever marketeer Leo Baekeland pioneered the first fully synthetic plastic in 1907. He beat his Scottish rival, James Swinburne, to the patent office by one day. His invention, which he would christen Bakelite, combined two chemicals, formaldehyde and phenol, under heat and pressure
Ruin May 7, 2024 @ 3:04am 
Originally posted by DANEDANGER:
And in case your wondering about the real world version even there we has it from before wo1:steamthumbsup:

Belgian chemist and clever marketeer Leo Baekeland pioneered the first fully synthetic plastic in 1907. He beat his Scottish rival, James Swinburne, to the patent office by one day. His invention, which he would christen Bakelite, combined two chemicals, formaldehyde and phenol, under heat and pressure

Yeah, but it's not what we associate with plastic today... It was very brittle and prone to being quite flammable, if I'm not mistaken...

It was an early material that is considered one of the precursors to modern plastics...
Wokelander May 7, 2024 @ 3:15am 
Originally posted by Ruin:
Originally posted by DANEDANGER:
And in case your wondering about the real world version even there we has it from before wo1:steamthumbsup:

Belgian chemist and clever marketeer Leo Baekeland pioneered the first fully synthetic plastic in 1907. He beat his Scottish rival, James Swinburne, to the patent office by one day. His invention, which he would christen Bakelite, combined two chemicals, formaldehyde and phenol, under heat and pressure

Yeah, but it's not what we associate with plastic today... It was very brittle and prone to being quite flammable, if I'm not mistaken...

It was an early material that is considered one of the precursors to modern plastics...
Well the alternative was turtle shells and elephant bones, pretty much
steventirey May 7, 2024 @ 3:15am 
Originally posted by Ruin:
Originally posted by DANEDANGER:
And in case your wondering about the real world version even there we has it from before wo1:steamthumbsup:

Belgian chemist and clever marketeer Leo Baekeland pioneered the first fully synthetic plastic in 1907. He beat his Scottish rival, James Swinburne, to the patent office by one day. His invention, which he would christen Bakelite, combined two chemicals, formaldehyde and phenol, under heat and pressure

Yeah, but it's not what we associate with plastic today... It was very brittle and prone to being quite flammable, if I'm not mistaken...

It was an early material that is considered one of the precursors to modern plastics...

Because of its electrical nonconductivity and heat-resistant properties, it became a great commercial success. It was used in electrical insulators, radio and telephone casings, and such diverse products as kitchenware, jewelry, pipe stems, children's toys, and firearms.

Sounds pretty useful to me. Now there are better options, but bakelite is still a useful material. And it is a plastic, which is the entire point. Plastics are pre-war, even if you consider "the war" to mean WW2. Or even WW1.
Last edited by steventirey; May 7, 2024 @ 3:19am
PeaceMaker May 7, 2024 @ 3:34am 
Originally posted by 󠁳⁧⁧󠁳⁧⁧󠁳󠁳:
Plastic didn't even exist pre war

Sounds like you're talking from the show, but not understanding the Timeline at all.

When the bombs fell it was well after WW2 ended where time diverged from our own. In fact the world went on quite well right up to 2077 about 40+ years after our present today. THEN the bombs dropped.

Plastic was well in existence by then.
Last edited by PeaceMaker; May 7, 2024 @ 3:35am
carl.wear May 7, 2024 @ 3:54am 
Originally posted by PeaceMaker:
Originally posted by 󠁳⁧⁧󠁳⁧⁧󠁳󠁳:
Plastic didn't even exist pre war

Sounds like you're talking from the show, but not understanding the Timeline at all.

When the bombs fell it was well after WW2 ended where time diverged from our own. In fact the world went on quite well right up to 2077 about 40+ years after our present today. THEN the bombs dropped.

Plastic was well in existence by then.

I think it was either the 1950's or 60's that the timeline altered as in Fallout 3, the museum has different references to historic space events.
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