Fallout 4 is better than New Vegas lol

[anguishedsou1]

Fallout 4 is better than New Vegas, the game just received a next gen update whereas Fallout New Vegas is just wack that puts a gun to your head and forces you to download and install over 200+ mods just to run the game like animal solid waste. I can't even start a New Game without it crashing. Hence, if you still think New Vegas is superior to Fallout 4, I wish you a speedy recovery because it is oddly backasswards to claim that Fallout New Vegas is superior. Evidently is clear that it's not, perhaps you could say that you prefer New Vegas over Fallout 4? (although that is still off the wall)

(Please refrain from responding with nonsense or threatening legal actions to sue me for libel)


Edit: Considerately stop rewarding the Jester, as it is damaging my reputation. Thank you.

[maestro]

Originally posted by anguishedsou1:

Fallout 4 is better than New Vegas, the game just received a next gen update whereas Fallout New Vegas is just wack that puts a gun to your head and forces you to download and install over 200+ mods just to run the game like animal solid waste. I can't even start a New Game without it crashing. Hence, if you still think New Vegas is superior to Fallout 4, I wish you a speedy recovery because it is oddly backasswards to claim that Fallout New Vegas is superior. Evidently is clear that it's not, perhaps you could say that you prefer New Vegas over Fallout 4? (although that is still off the wall)

(Please refrain from responding with nonsense or threatening legal actions to sue me for libel)

While the OP's tact is about as smooth as a wire grinding disc, they aren't 100% wrong.

FO4 with this newest update, runs great right out of the box except for needing 1 mod -- Load Accelerator.

FO:NV, I had to download 97 mods just to get the game to some playable state. It really is in a sorry condition, and even then I was still getting a few CTDs after 2+ hours of following explicit instructions and downloading all of those mods in specific order, fiddling with 3rd party apps, etc.

But....

What the OP isn't taking into account, is that some people prefer a better narrative, and better written quests which many people, including myself, have to say that NV wins in.

FO4's story is very basic. Evil Boogeyman Empire kidnapped your son, and it turns out your son is the current leader of said empire. You get your red pill/blue pill/white pill choice endings, and that's about it.

That's not to say that all the story in FO4 is bad, it's just... basic for the most part. There's some neat little tidbits, but FO4 is more about the actual gameplay.

NV on the other hand... the gameplay is more basic, and the lack of any building might turn some people off.

But it really boils down to personal preference. At first, before I could play FO4 more than 10 hours without crashes, I thought its system was kinda stupid, didn't like the progression system... but now that I've finally gotten further into the game, it's kinda grown on me, so I like both games.

I just wish NV would run better. Maybe they need to next-gen it, but I dunno if I trust them to pull that off effectively.

[Haze]

Originally posted by potato:

no it isn't, fallout 4 isn't even a fallout game

I would suggest u check FALLOUT 4's game cover lol.

Originally posted by potato:

no it isn't, fallout 4 isn't even a fallout game

I'm having allot of fun with Fallout 4, i think it's the best Fallout game till date. It looks beautiful with mods whilst new vegas looks like a playstation 2 game..

[Oracle]

Well, i'm just gonna say it. There is no debate on this. It is fact that FNV (Fallout New Vegas) is better than F4 (Fallout 4). That's why you never see F4 vs FNV it's just common knowledge. Now i will say using mods on F4 is way easier (well not right now clearly) and the game looks way better compared to FNV, but looks are not everything. Now you do have your right to disagree, but i have my right to make fun of you for it.

[Cor.]

Old World Blues for NV was not the best...

Someone was on some strong cough syrup when that one was made.

[maestro]

Originally posted by Kaleido:

Well, i'm just gonna say it. There is no debate on this. It is fact that FNV (Fallout New Vegas) is better than F4 (Fallout 4). That's why you never see F4 vs FNV it's just common knowledge. Now i will say using mods on F4 is way easier (well not right now clearly) and the game looks way better compared to FNV, but looks are not everything. Now you do have your right to disagree, but i have my right to make fun of you for it.

I don't really think using such a blanket term as "better" is really healthy to a conversation.

One can say that FO4 is more gameplay focused, and FO:NV is more story focused and that's a very valid opinion.

If you're going to say that NV has better progression, or better character building, or better gameplay systems, then you're absolutely out of your mind.

[maestro]

Originally posted by Cor.:

Old World Blues for NV was not the best...

Someone was on some strong cough syrup when that one was made.

Storywise, yeah, someone was huffin the glue when they wrote that.

Game balance wise, OWB felt like a 5 year old's insert.. "OH it'd be cool if we had this, and that, and that" ... you step outside of The Sink and 30 seconds you can shoot some lobotomites and get absolutely overpowered weapons thrown at you left and right.

At least with Dead Money, you were given a Holorifle, but very limited ammo, and even then, you were stuck inside the Madre until the end of the Expansion. In OWB, you're stuck in Big MT, but yet you just keep racking up caps, weapons, XP, and everything else at ridiculous pacing.

It's fun for awhile and then it's "yawn another proton axe" or "yay, my 20th LAER" ...

And let's not even talk about how ludicrously overpowered a SILENCED Sniper Rifle is.

[anguishedsou1]

Originally posted by maestro:

Originally posted by anguishedsou1:

Fallout 4 is better than New Vegas, the game just received a next gen update whereas Fallout New Vegas is just wack that puts a gun to your head and forces you to download and install over 200+ mods just to run the game like animal solid waste. I can't even start a New Game without it crashing. Hence, if you still think New Vegas is superior to Fallout 4, I wish you a speedy recovery because it is oddly backasswards to claim that Fallout New Vegas is superior. Evidently is clear that it's not, perhaps you could say that you prefer New Vegas over Fallout 4? (although that is still off the wall)

(Please refrain from responding with nonsense or threatening legal actions to sue me for libel)

While the OP's tact is about as smooth as a wire grinding disc, they aren't 100% wrong.

FO4 with this newest update, runs great right out of the box except for needing 1 mod -- Load Accelerator.

FO:NV, I had to download 97 mods just to get the game to some playable state. It really is in a sorry condition, and even then I was still getting a few CTDs after 2+ hours of following explicit instructions and downloading all of those mods in specific order, fiddling with 3rd party apps, etc.

But....

What the OP isn't taking into account, is that some people prefer a better narrative, and better written quests which many people, including myself, have to say that NV wins in.

FO4's story is very basic. Evil Boogeyman Empire kidnapped your son, and it turns out your son is the current leader of said empire. You get your red pill/blue pill/white pill choice endings, and that's about it.

That's not to say that all the story in FO4 is bad, it's just... basic for the most part. There's some neat little tidbits, but FO4 is more about the actual gameplay.

NV on the other hand... the gameplay is more basic, and the lack of any building might turn some people off.

But it really boils down to personal preference. At first, before I could play FO4 more than 10 hours without crashes, I thought its system was kinda stupid, didn't like the progression system... but now that I've finally gotten further into the game, it's kinda grown on me, so I like both games.

I just wish NV would run better. Maybe they need to next-gen it, but I dunno if I trust them to pull that off effectively.

"After surviving a bullet to the head..." which is both obnoxious and jocular, it is unlikely that anyone would survive a bullet to the head. The chances of surviving such an injury are low and even if you did survive, you would likely suffer from multiple disabilities due to brain damage. It is not as if you would simply wake up the next morning as if nothing had happened, the story is quite far fetched.

[maestro]

Originally posted by anguishedsou1:

"After surviving a bullet to the head..." which is both obnoxious and jocular, it is unlikely that anyone would survive a bullet to the head. The chances of surviving such an injury are low and even if you did survive, you would likely suffer from multiple disabilities due to brain damage. It is not as if you would simply wake up the next morning as if nothing had happened, the story is quite far fetched.

I was talking more about how the middle and end of the story was set up. Instead of Red/White/Blue pill endings, you are asked to pick a side early in the campaign and continuing to assist that side, angers the other factions to where they start sending hit men after you.

You don't play all the way up to the last quest and go "ok, this is the one I wanna join" while sitting on the fence for the entire game. That seems a bit more realistic to me. Mass Effect did that, and that really turned me off on its franchise. I used to be a huge fan of ME until they pulled that crap in 3. "Choices matter!" ... yeah, only between 1&2 and 2&3 ... then you get to the end and none of what you did actually matters because there's only 3 endings. And the third wasn't added until later.

But in NV, you gotta choose during the middle of the game and stick with the choice. They give you a few chances to reconsider, but doing so is hard.

In FO4, from what I've read, The Choice is closer to the end and you can play all the sides through a good portion of the game.

[anguishedsou1]

Originally posted by Kaleido:

Well, i'm just gonna say it. There is no debate on this. It is fact that FNV (Fallout New Vegas) is better than F4 (Fallout 4). That's why you never see F4 vs FNV it's just common knowledge. Now i will say using mods on F4 is way easier (well not right now clearly) and the game looks way better compared to FNV, but looks are not everything. Now you do have your right to disagree, but i have my right to make fun of you for it.

Originally posted by Kaleido:

Well, i'm just gonna say it. There is no debate on this. It is fact that FNV (Fallout New Vegas) is better than F4 (Fallout 4). That's why you never see F4 vs FNV it's just common knowledge. Now i will say using mods on F4 is way easier (well not right now clearly) and the game looks way better compared to FNV, but looks are not everything. Now you do have your right to disagree, but i have my right to make fun of you for it.

Understandable, have a nice day.

[AXL.99]

fallout 3.5 crybabies fans are furious because their ♥♥♥♥♥♥ outdated game is not the best lmao

[Cat]

Originally posted by anguishedsou1:

Originally posted by Cat:

The fact that you're comparing a $8m budget game from 2010 vs $100m budget game from 2015 speaks volumes. Yeah Fallout 4 might be better, it probably is, is that something to applaud?

I can say the same for you. The fact that people claim an $8 million game from 2010 is superior to a $100 million budget game from 2015 is crayz, in summary we can confidently say that Fallout 4 is better than New Vegas.

Well that is not how things work now is it. Starfield cost $400m , released 2023, and it's a steaming pile of garbage compared to Fallout NV, Fallout 4, Skyrim, or indeed many many games.

[anguishedsou1]

Originally posted by maestro:

Originally posted by anguishedsou1:

"After surviving a bullet to the head..." which is both obnoxious and jocular, it is unlikely that anyone would survive a bullet to the head. The chances of surviving such an injury are low and even if you did survive, you would likely suffer from multiple disabilities due to brain damage. It is not as if you would simply wake up the next morning as if nothing had happened, the story is quite far fetched.

I was talking more about how the middle and end of the story was set up. Instead of Red/White/Blue pill endings, you are asked to pick a side early in the campaign and continuing to assist that side, angers the other factions to where they start sending hit men after you.

You don't play all the way up to the last quest and go "ok, this is the one I wanna join" while sitting on the fence for the entire game. That seems a bit more realistic to me. Mass Effect did that, and that really turned me off on its franchise. I used to be a huge fan of ME until they pulled that crap in 3. "Choices matter!" ... yeah, only between 1&2 and 2&3 ... then you get to the end and none of what you did actually matters because there's only 3 endings. And the third wasn't added until later.

But in NV, you gotta choose during the middle of the game and stick with the choice. They give you a few chances to reconsider, but doing so is hard.

In FO4, from what I've read, The Choice is closer to the end and you can play all the sides through a good portion of the game.

So, you're saying that the ability to choose factions and deal with the resulting outcomes is what makes you believe that Fallout New Vegas is better?

[maestro]

Originally posted by anguishedsou1:

So, you're saying that the ability to choose factions and deal with the resulting outcomes is what makes you believe that Fallout New Vegas is better?

I can tell you what's not better, and that's your reading comprehension.

I said multiple times in the thread that storywise, NV is better, but gameplay wise 4 is better.

[anguishedsou1]

Originally posted by Cat:

Originally posted by anguishedsou1:

I can say the same for you. The fact that people claim an $8 million game from 2010 is superior to a $100 million budget game from 2015 is crayz, in summary we can confidently say that Fallout 4 is better than New Vegas.

Well that is not how things work now is it. Starfield cost $400m , released 2023, and it's a steaming pile of garbage compared to Fallout NV, Fallout 4, Skyrim, or indeed many many games.

I can't provide an opinion on Starfield because I don't have the game, yet. But regardless I still don't think it could mean it is worse than Fallout New Vegas.

[Spiritos]

Feel better now that is off your mind.
Rest assured no one agrees with your opinion, or wishes to debate such a simplistic narrow view. That ultimately derives to a "this is better than that".