New makeshift weapon : where are the ammo ?

[VanMeilleur]

So, i started a new game (because my old save was erased for no reasons).
I rushed the mission with the new weapons ( you know, the saw launcher, the baseball canon, nail pistol,...) But i only managed to buy a few ammo for them.
Its still low level (lvl 16) but i have already found more mini-nuke than saw blade ammo.
I was able to buy something like 6 nail to a merchant.
Did you have the same issue ? i would like to try them ( they look pretty cool) but even the better gun isnt a thing without ammo.

[The Inept European]

Another way to find Suggs is he's very very slightly south of the exact midpoint of a line between Kendal Hospital and Cambridge Crater.

[VanMeilleur]

Its really dumb to place a unique vendor, selling unique weapons and unique ammo ... and made him stealth and weak.
What happen if he die ? these weapons are obtenaible elsewhere ?

[durenkian]

Originally posted by Doombringer:

console commands are what I meant.
like player.additem xxxxxxxx #

Ok, ahaha! Many thanks!

[durenkian]

My Weapons store at Somerville Place had some 40mm grenades to sell.
Funny!

[Greydog]

Suggs and Cricket sell the 40mm's. The amount they carry is random each time they refill. I've had as low as 9 and as many as 49.

[Greydog]

Originally posted by The Inept European:

Another way to find Suggs is he's very very slight south of the exact midpoint of a line between Kendal Hospital and Cambridge Crater.

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Originally posted by The Inept European:

Another way to find Suggs is he's very very slight south of the exact midpoint of a line between Kendal Hospital and Cambridge Crater.

I start at the Campus Law Office then head west and slightly north. On the map you will see a larger square block with a smaller square block at the northern edge. Suggs is very near the south east corner of the smaller block.

[The Inept European]

I'm guessing then that the 13 May update didn't add a permanent location marker for Suggs' garage.

[The Inept European]

Ammo crafting for the Makeshift weapons

Also fixes the VATS and dupe bugs with the Baseball Launcher

https://steamcommunity.com/app/377160/discussions/0/4329726622428242295/

[The Inept European]

The leveled list injection of the Makeshift Weapons ammo goes to all weapons dealers in the mainland, so

Arturo, KLEO, Cricket, Eleanor, Tinker Tom, player level 3 and 4 weapon shops, Teagan.

Unclear if that includes Ronnie.

The list is added to their Specialty LL which is iirc a 50% chance of 1-2 items.

This CC item hard codes the level availability to level 1. This is stupid but at least consistent because across the board this CC makes everything - weapons ammo and mods - available at level 1.

This LL injection script may only run if the quest completes with Suggs still alive. I need to check that more.

[VanMeilleur]

i didnt knwo that, thank for th einfo

[The Inept European]

Sorry correction: the weapons and ammo do not get injected for Teagan (BOS).

The weapon vendors vendors should have one roll of each ammo type (5 types) and two rolls for one of the 4 weapons (nail gun, baseball launcher, pipe grenade launcher, Chinese grenade launcher). (5th weapon Sawblade Launcher is missing but is added back by my mod.)

[The Inept European]

Weapon vendors are also getting the Piggy Bank Grenade which is a heavy hand grenade (like a throwable bottlecap mine). It's not clear to me how this is getting into their inventories. I don't think I've seen Suggs sell it but that may just be my RNG.

[The Inept European]

Ah OK. Each [weapons] vendor gets:

- One roll on each of the 5 new ammo tyies.
- Two rolls of a random one of 4 new weapon types (Sawblade Launcher and Piggy Bank Bomb Launcher are excluded)
- One roll that is either a Piggy Bank Mine or a Piggy Bank Grenade.

Because of the way these LLs are rolled up into the wider weapon vendor LLs you will not get all the above each time inventory restocks.

From what I've seen you usually get one new ammo drop and 1-2 of the new weapons. Ammo drop quantities are 3-7 with an average of 5.

Suggs is a special case and will always have more quantity and variety of the new weapons than the other weapon vendors.

[VanMeilleur]

damn, that look pretty elaborated

[The Inept European]

Thanks 😁