Random Legendary Raider... with a Fat Man?

[NicaTane]

My hardcore run just ended at Level 26. I got one-shotted by a random Legendary Raider with a Fat Man in the financial district. I never saw a random legendary enemy with a Fat Man before in >3500 hours of playing Fallout 4. None of my mods is responsible, so I suppose I have to thank the new update that simple raiders can now murder me with mini nukes?

[Doombringer]

No, they (legendaries) always could have them.
The chance is low though. (at level 40+ it is like 0.5%, lower % at lower level)

There is a respawning (non-legendary) raider with a fatman, and at least 1 gunner one.
There is also a non-respawning non-legendary with a nuke near a settlement you can claim.

[Goof]

nah, i've found legendary fat mans off randoms before, even before the update

[EricHVela]

I remember encountering one for the first time and I had that weapon favorited but not currently equipped. I was really confused when the explosion happened and I was 100% sure I didn't fire it.

(Turns out I was right, but I just didn't know an NPC could have one. It does make sense, though. Just a surprise after not seeing it for so long. Bad assumption on my part, but fun? surprise all the same.)

[NicaTane]

Originally posted by Doombringer:

No, they (legendaries) always could have them.
The chance is low though. (at level 40+ it is like 0.5%, lower % at lower level)

There is a respawning (non-legendary) raider with a fatman, and at least 1 gunner one.
There is also a non-respawning non-legendary with a nuke near a settlement you can claim.

Well, then it seems I was extremely unlucky. Thanks for the answer.

[Bonedog]

I'm LMAO at this because I just got obliterated by a random Leg. raider with a fat man... in the financial district not 20 min ago.

[NicaTane]

Originally posted by Bonedog:

I'm LMAO at this because I just got obliterated by a random Leg. raider with a fat man... in the financial district not 20 min ago.

Well, DOOMBRINGER said the chance for such an enemy to appear is about 0.5%. Then the likelihood that we both encounter the same enemy is about 0.0025%.

[DouglasGrave]

The surprise legendary I remember most was when I trying discreetly pick off super mutants late one night at Big John's Salvage by hiding in the attic of the building out front (after killing its occupants) and sniping them from the hole in the roof.

It turned out that their leader had spawned with a Nocturnal gauss rifle, which I only found out when instead of the usual spray of minigun fire in my general direction, the first shot flew directly into my hiding spot and killed me instantly. I couldn't even tell what happened until I reloaded and died for the second time.

[A Gamer]

Maybe he picked up a fat man ?

[Bonedog]

Originally posted by NicaTane:

Originally posted by Bonedog:

I'm LMAO at this because I just got obliterated by a random Leg. raider with a fat man... in the financial district not 20 min ago.

Well, DOOMBRINGER said the chance for such an enemy to appear is about 0.5%. Then the likelihood that we both encounter the same enemy is about 0.0025%. :lunar2019grinningpig:

All I know is I picked the WRONG intersection to stop and check my map, and Cait got LLLLLaunched.

[Varanus]

I have rarely seen legendaries with a fatman before. Almost always being a poisoners fatman. In fact, I think everytime it was a poisoners fatman.
However something I have literally never seen on a legendary enemy are either a deathclaw gauntlet or a powerfist. Minus Swan, of course.

[NicaTane]

Originally posted by Derek Zoolander:

Maybe he picked up a fat man ?

No, since it was his legendary item. A "Hunter's Fat Man".

[sdack]

Originally posted by DouglasGrave:

The surprise legendary I remember most was when I trying discreetly pick off super mutants late one night at Big John's Salvage by hiding in the attic of the building out front (after killing its occupants) and sniping them from the hole in the roof.

It turned out that their leader had spawned with a Nocturnal gauss rifle, which I only found out when instead of the usual spray of minigun fire in my general direction, the first shot flew directly into my hiding spot and killed me instantly. I couldn't even tell what happened until I reloaded and died for the second time.

Yeah, Raiders with Gauss Rifles are quite the surprise. I died a couple times to those. Paid for my arrogance.

[Death Approaches]

ahh the first time experience being on the receiving end of a rando fatman you didn't see coming... but 3500 hours and it's never happened to you? that's some exceptionally good luck! That you can play for so long and still have a new experience, even a bad one, is amazing.

I do love how they have no survival instinct whatsoever, will fire a FM way too close and ragdoll everyone, themselves included, "crazy bastard" AI.

putting jet on a hotkey, like + so it's at the end, is always helpful past 30th, maybe use the two keys beside it for some other good drugs, bufftats or psychobuffs maybe; if you're roleplaying permadeath sole survivor, ya gots ta be prepared...

[The Inept European]

Originally posted by NicaTane:

Originally posted by Bonedog:

I'm LMAO at this because I just got obliterated by a random Leg. raider with a fat man... in the financial district not 20 min ago.

Well, DOOMBRINGER said the chance for such an enemy to appear is about 0.5%. Then the likelihood that we both encounter the same enemy is about 0.0025%. :lunar2019grinningpig:

While this is strictly true, it's a common misapplication of statistics. The chance of each person currently playing on the Financial district at your level meeting a fat man carrying raider is 0.5%. For each person. The odds that SOME person is in the exact situation as you right now approaches certainty. Whoever is that "some" person then speaks up.

You have to ignore the probability of the first event, because it has now happened, and consider the net probability of the same event happening to every possible person it could happen to.

[NicaTane]

Originally posted by Varanus:

I have rarely seen legendaries with a fatman before. Almost always being a poisoners fatman. In fact, I think everytime it was a poisoners fatman.
However something I have literally never seen on a legendary enemy are either a deathclaw gauntlet or a powerfist. Minus Swan, of course.

I found several legendary deathclaw gauntlets, with the effects Instigating, Bloodied, Irradiated, Powerful, Exterminator and Mutant Slayer. But only 1 Powerfist, a Sentinel.