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Psycho Apr 29, 2024 @ 12:26pm
Very Hard vs. Survival
Which difficulty do you guys think is more enjoyable between Very Hard and Survival?

I just played Survival for a bit and I noticed that you get tired pretty quickly, and it seems like you'll need to sleep a lot, which I could see as being annoying when you are adventuring or something and you have to go back home to sleep. But at the same time I like a lot of the other mechanics

And with Very Hard mode I've heard people say enemies are more of bullet sponges than in survival mode? But I don't know if that's true or not

Just wanna hear what you guys think of these 2 modes
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JocularJosh Apr 29, 2024 @ 12:28pm 
Survival all the way for me. You have to drink, eat, sleep, can catch diseases and all that stuff which I love. Makes the game more intense. Also no fast-travel which made me discover tons of new areas I have never seen before. Also no save-scumming.

There is a mod that lets you tinker around with various survival settings as well so you can pretty much make your own survival mode if you like the sound of that.
SerraShaar Apr 29, 2024 @ 12:29pm 
Call me old school, but when I want a challenge? I just go back to bed and try to get up again lol

Well joking aside, but personally Survival sound like a pain in the ass. I use the normal difficulties aka : Start at normal, and crank it up later on.

Keep in mind I don't care about that whole 'You must sleep, you must eat...it gotta feel real'. I still remember trying that in Skyrim and it was nothing but a chore! I wasted more time trying to find Food and a place to crash than actually enjoying the game itself and Questing.

But that's just me.
Thermal Lance Apr 29, 2024 @ 12:30pm 
Survival. But, mod out the saving system.
soulshiver Apr 29, 2024 @ 12:31pm 
survival for me by far was much more entertaining .. but I used an override to save on demand because w/o console .. sometimes you crash .. sometimes you get stuck .. sometimes quests bug .. and I'm not into self harm so I only play on very hard now since the update as my overrides don't allow me to save anymore in survival

Other than that though .. it makes for much more entertaining and involved gameplay and can lead to strategy and involvement you wouldn't otherwise partake in and experience.

Although sleeping to save .. which then impacts your character and no stuck button really hurts it rn
Shadow Apr 29, 2024 @ 12:39pm 
Survival, but I use mods to restore the original save system so I'm not suffering from narcolepsy or having to repeat twenty minutes of playtime just because a raider got lucky with a molotov.

Really they had a good model with New Vegas's survival mode. They didn't need to add the stupid sleep to save gimmick, which IMO is not at all what survival mode is supposed to be about.
PeaceMaker Apr 29, 2024 @ 12:40pm 
Much prefer Survival.

Survival can be easy if you THINK like a Survivor where very Very Hard is just Very Hard for the sake of it.
diemore83 Apr 29, 2024 @ 12:45pm 
Havent played in Very Hard due of jump it right away to Survival or prefered mods wich does a gaming more .. challenging in my view ofcourse.
...but honestly at a moment i am playing a hardest way for me i believe. Settlement buildings and so on... its totally differend way i prefer to play and get used to. I also admit i am hoarder so visiting buildings etc... can be really tedious for me..hehe :)
I quess got used to mods like FROST wich makes items more harder to find and overall less in a map... now i am in a Classic Survival and i feel like drowning to a stuff to have.

..if you are just looking to " shoot to kill" then dont go for survival because it does adds its own micromanagement wich would not perhaps suite for you interests.
Last edited by diemore83; Apr 29, 2024 @ 12:49pm
Xeriath Apr 29, 2024 @ 12:49pm 
With mod which take care of the save-system survival. In a vanilla game very hard since I can save there.
nshaffer11 Apr 29, 2024 @ 12:50pm 
i use very hard with difficulty mods to increase the amount of enemies in the field, increase there health along with some other mods to make them a bit more aggressive.
Kstyles Apr 29, 2024 @ 12:53pm 
Survival with modded saving parameters or Hard if your sole survivor isn't a full combat build.
Neo Apr 29, 2024 @ 12:58pm 
Survival is best. Makes the wasteland feel dangerous and settlements become important. Although I do use a mod now that gives me a bed roll so I can save where I want.
mccoyco64 Apr 29, 2024 @ 12:58pm 
I use a couple of mods - save , change food / water buffa/debuffs sickness etc… not sure if still survival mode at that point but I enjoy it..
Doombringer Apr 29, 2024 @ 1:25pm 
Survival = annoying mechanics (unless you are into that kind of thing)
Very Hard = bullet sponge enemies (especially at very high level)
Pick your poison.

If you know what you are doing the game isn't actually hard once you get over level 20 or so (survival is probably harder than very hard though).
Last edited by Doombringer; Apr 29, 2024 @ 1:27pm
Zes Apr 29, 2024 @ 3:49pm 
very hard = fast travel, no adrenaline, quicksaves, no sicknesses

survival = no fast travel, yes adrenaline, no saves, sickness everyday

only immersive difference is; you need to eat drink and sleep regularly in survival, you get sick and need to plan your saves before actions..

but you deal more damage + have to walk everywhere in exchange

which is more enjoyable? it depends how much you like the pain.. survival is much more slow paced gameplay, you gonna need patience and planning
Ollicron Apr 29, 2024 @ 3:55pm 
Originally posted by Psycho:
Which difficulty do you guys think is more enjoyable between Very Hard and Survival?

I just played Survival for a bit and I noticed that you get tired pretty quickly, and it seems like you'll need to sleep a lot, which I could see as being annoying when you are adventuring or something and you have to go back home to sleep. But at the same time I like a lot of the other mechanics

And with Very Hard mode I've heard people say enemies are more of bullet sponges than in survival mode? But I don't know if that's true or not

Just wanna hear what you guys think of these 2 modes

Survival. You will learn to deal with the mechanics pretty easily. DO NOT RUIN YOUR EXPERIENCE BY CHEATING.
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Date Posted: Apr 29, 2024 @ 12:26pm
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