What is wrong with Bethesda?

[Martin]

Updates which kills savegames and make games unplayable for weeks
Starfield does not work if no high end PC
Fallout 4 VR will never be playable
wtf is wrong with this company ...

looks like it is the worst at all

[JocularJosh]

I get the feeling that some people here genuinely think that Todd is the only one working on these game and that he is to blame for everything that goes wrong with them lol

[kkitts]

Originally posted by JocularJosh:

I get the feeling that some people here genuinely think that Todd is the only one working on these game and that he is to blame for everything that goes wrong with them lol

He's the CEO. He is responsible for everything Bethesda does.

[Banepillado]

Originally posted by kkitts:

Todd Howard is what's wrong with Bethesda. Microsoft should fire him and install someone who cares about making good games and patches that actually work, and not ticking off their customers (see the Nuka Dark Rum controversy and other Fallout 76 related antagonization of players). Then they'd have repeat business and money coming in, instead of people swearing off Bethesda forever. It's the only constructive move Microsoft can make, and if they fail to make that move, the MS board should fire Satya Nadella and install someone who cares about the customers enough to make competent product so that people will continue to buy their software. That would be the only constructive move in that case.

I think that Emil Pagliarulo, that talentless hack of a writer, is more harmful in the long run than Todd Howard.

[PeaceMaker]

Originally posted by patrick68794:

lol and what full AAA games had VR conversions that "put Fallout 4 VR to shame" in 2017?

lol away. I would tell you if I thought your question was genuine, but I know it isn't and you'll just move the goalposts. Go find out. I'm not doing the work for you, just know you are wrong.

[patrick68794]

Originally posted by PeaceMaker:

Originally posted by patrick68794:

lol and what full AAA games had VR conversions that "put Fallout 4 VR to shame" in 2017?

lol away. I would tell you if I thought your question was genuine, but I know it isn't and you'll just move the goalposts. Go find out. I'm not doing the work for you, just know you are wrong.

Because there really weren't any and you can't handle getting called out on your ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ lol Hellblade VR and RE7 PSVR were probably the most comparable conversions that came out within several months of Fallout 4 VR and they didn't even have motion controls. Borderlands 2 VR came out close to a year later and they had to remove co-op from it because it would've been too much work.

In conclusion, you are wrong. There was nothing comparable to what BGS did with Fallout 4 VR at the time or even a year after it released.

[JocularJosh]

Originally posted by PeaceMaker:

Originally posted by patrick68794:

lol and what full AAA games had VR conversions that "put Fallout 4 VR to shame" in 2017?

lol away. I would tell you if I thought your question was genuine, but I know it isn't and you'll just move the goalposts. Go find out. I'm not doing the work for you, just know you are wrong.

So, in short:
You can't name even one game.
Proving his point.

[Lunii]

Originally posted by JocularJosh:

I get the feeling that some people here genuinely think that Todd is the only one working on these game and that he is to blame for everything that goes wrong with them lol

Totally. He is just the face of BGS.
Meanwhile the whole company is at fault.

[kkitts]

Originally posted by Banepillado:

Originally posted by kkitts:

Todd Howard is what's wrong with Bethesda. Microsoft should fire him and install someone who cares about making good games and patches that actually work, and not ticking off their customers (see the Nuka Dark Rum controversy and other Fallout 76 related antagonization of players). Then they'd have repeat business and money coming in, instead of people swearing off Bethesda forever. It's the only constructive move Microsoft can make, and if they fail to make that move, the MS board should fire Satya Nadella and install someone who cares about the customers enough to make competent product so that people will continue to buy their software. That would be the only constructive move in that case.

I think that Emil Pagliarulo, that talentless hack of a writer, is more harmful in the long run than Todd Howard.

The buck stops with the CEO. If Emil Pagliarulo is writing crap, Howard can stop it. If Howard lets a patch that kills a ton of installs loose, it's his fault because he could have stopped it. Good CEOs take an interest in the things they make, because the path to the black line going upward is more sales and happy customers, not less. Todd Howard has either forgotten this and not paid enough attention to the patch, or he's intent on killing the game with a blatant cash grab and broken patch. Either way, he's responsible because he could have made this work properly. It's his fault, and it's up to him to fix it...or not. If not, MS CEO Satya Nadella should fire Todd Howard (and she should have long ago, given all the Fallout 76 crap). That would be the first constructive move towards fixing Bethesda as a company.

[Mightylink]

I feel this is all planned. They really wanted people to move over to Fallout 76 which is really the only playable game right now, even Fallout 3 is crashing a lot recently and people don't know if it's a recent update or drivers.

Now look at Bethesda's twitter, even though Fallout 4 is more popular they only keep bragging about Fallout 76's player numbers and nothing about Fallout 4. Bethesda really hates people playing Fallout 4 it seems.

[patrick68794]

Originally posted by kkitts:

Originally posted by Banepillado:

I think that Emil Pagliarulo, that talentless hack of a writer, is more harmful in the long run than Todd Howard.

The buck stops with the CEO. If Emil Pagliarulo is writing crap, Howard can stop it. If Howard lets a patch that kills a ton of installs loose, it's his fault because he could have stopped it. Good CEOs take an interest in the things they make, because the path to the black line going upward is more sales and happy customers, not less. Todd Howard has either forgotten this and not paid enough attention to the patch, or he's intent on killing the game with a blatant cash grab and broken patch. Either way, he's responsible because he could have made this work properly. It's his fault, and it's up to him to fix it...or not. If not, MS CEO Satya Nadella should fire Todd Howard (and she should have long ago, given all the Fallout 76 crap). That would be the first constructive move towards fixing Bethesda as a company.

Firing the person that heads up their most successful games isn't a good move lol there's a reason you're crying on a Steam forum instead of being able to make these sorts of decisions at any company.

[kkitts]

...yet Starfield hasn't made a profit yet...

[TemplarGR]

Originally posted by kkitts:

Todd Howard is what's wrong with Bethesda. Microsoft should fire him and install someone who cares about making good games and patches that actually work, and not ticking off their customers (see the Nuka Dark Rum controversy and other Fallout 76 related antagonization of players). Then they'd have repeat business and money coming in, instead of people swearing off Bethesda forever. It's the only constructive move Microsoft can make, and if they fail to make that move, the MS board should fire Satya Nadella and install someone who cares about the customers enough to make competent product so that people will continue to buy their software. That would be the only constructive move in that case.

Yeah, and the next fool who will be appointed by Microsoft is going to turn Fallout and the Elder Scrolls into Halo, no thanks....

[TemplarGR]

Originally posted by Mightylink:

I feel this is all planned. They really wanted people to move over to Fallout 76 which is really the only playable game right now, even Fallout 3 is crashing a lot recently and people don't know if it's a recent update or drivers.

Now look at Bethesda's twitter, even though Fallout 4 is more popular they only keep bragging about Fallout 76's player numbers and nothing about Fallout 4. Bethesda really hates people playing Fallout 4 it seems.

Obviously they prefer to push 76, it is a larger investment on their part, and has a lot more potential to bring more money...

In my opinion 76 should have never happened. Like Starfield, 76 was an experiment of shorts. Bethesda wanted to experiment with stuff but didn't want to do it with the Elder Scrolls so instead they used Fallout and Starfield. At least those 2 are getting a lot of hate so Elder Scrolls 6 and Fallout 5 should be more conservative when they get released.

[TigerXtrm]

Originally posted by Banepillado:

I think that Emil Pagliarulo, that talentless hack of a writer, is more harmful in the long run than Todd Howard.

Emil was the lead game designer on Starfield and it ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ shows, my god. Everything that man touches turns to absolute ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

If I had to guess it's this misplaced loyalty and trust in certain key employees that keeps ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Bethesda over. Emil is just one of them, I'm sure. But if you have multiple Emil's in your company all ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ up their own department and you refuse to let them go for their bad performance, that's how you end up with modern Bethesda.

Being owned by an investment firm for 1,5 decade who's only objective is making money regardless of product quality also doesn't help of course. That mindset probably lingers for a good long while.

[PeaceMaker]

Originally posted by JocularJosh:

Originally posted by PeaceMaker:

lol away. I would tell you if I thought your question was genuine, but I know it isn't and you'll just move the goalposts. Go find out. I'm not doing the work for you, just know you are wrong.

So, in short:
You can't name even one game.
Proving his point.

That's not gonna work, pal.