I don't understand why anyone likes the Fallout TV show

[BigMacParity]

The dialogue is so cringe, the only redeeming quality of the show is that Caesar's Legion is the canon ending at the end.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gr8JQfvmfrA

[Ollicron]

Originally posted by BigMacParity:

The dialogue is so cringe, the only redeeming quality of the show is that Caesar's Legion is the canon ending at the end.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gr8JQfvmfrA

The only reason I liked it was because of the scenery, and the cowboy ghoul who carried the show. Everyone else is cringe, even the NCR. I didn't pay for the show by the way.

[Nolo]

i mean i get you the dialog is cringe but i like to think of it as everybody is stuck at 1 point in ability to have a conversation expect for the one dude and he is a hard 4 soft 5 at best

[Nolo]

Originally posted by Ollicron:

Originally posted by BigMacParity:

The dialogue is so cringe, the only redeeming quality of the show is that Caesar's Legion is the canon ending at the end.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gr8JQfvmfrA

The only reason I liked it was because of the scenery, and the cowboy ghoul who carried the show. Everyone else is cringe, even the NCR. I didn't pay for the show by the way.

yup more or less its like what if everybody in fallout was just ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ cringe well this is what happens

[VRGladiator1341]

Originally posted by Shadow of Anthares:

Originally posted by BigMacParity:

The dialogue is so cringe, the only redeeming quality of the show is that Caesar's Legion is the canon ending at the end.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gr8JQfvmfrA

People just love simple things which allow to shut down the brain after hard and demanding day at work - and that's exactly what falllut series is for.

Cringe easter-eggs like "you smell good" and running out of ammo without hitting anything are also there for this.

As sad as it is, you better understand: after Bethesda, Fallout franchise is not exactly post-apocalypse anymore. - it lost all of it's features. All it has now - GOOD natured (*sick*) nagga-lootaz, rubber and plastic characters, country music, occasionals tits and bunch of laughs.

Lemmings of 21 century don't need anything else.

lmao just say you're racist

[kmoore41]

The shows premise and "hints" fail to answer some simple questions as; How did neither the vault 31 overseer or vault 33s overseer (dad) not know of the demise of vault 32, especially as it was his "dead" wife's pipboy that opened vault 32's outer door? Can any pipboy open a vault door? This could present a problem for all the vaults and in 200+ years you would think the people outside would have figured this out. Where did the 'cleanup crew' come from? If vault 31's sleepers, would not one of them released the 31s overseer from his situation before returning to sleep? There were some bright spots, Lucys jumping at the tumble weed, many of the outside views (game generated?) There are a plethora of other issues that I am hoping season 2 will answer, maybe with better informed writers, guess we will see.

[Empukris]

Originally posted by kmoore41:

The shows premise and "hints" fail to answer some simple questions as; How did neither the vault 31 overseer or vault 33s overseer (dad) not know of the demise of vault 32, especially as it was his "dead" wife's pipboy that opened vault 32's outer door? Can any pipboy open a vault door? This could present a problem for all the vaults and in 200+ years you would think the people outside would have figured this out. Where did the 'cleanup crew' come from? If vault 31's sleepers, would not one of them released the 31s overseer from his situation before returning to sleep? There were some bright spots, Lucys jumping at the tumble weed, many of the outside views (game generated?) There are a plethora of other issues that I am hoping season 2 will answer, maybe with better informed writers, guess we will see.

I can answer some of this. It is not really explained in the show but more of a common sense in the FO universe.

Any pipboy can open those fallout door. Thats pretty much how it works in Bethesda era Fallout. Pretty sure more high tec faction like BoS or enclave have other methods to go in.

A working pipboy is ultra rare. It is freaking expensive and a pre war era treasure. This shown in the show when pretty much anyone want to steal/mug the pipboy she is wearing.

[Empukris]

Originally posted by BigMacParity:

The dialogue is so cringe, the only redeeming quality of the show is that Caesar's Legion is the canon ending at the end.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gr8JQfvmfrA

Isnt that just how it works in Fallout universe? The ghoul probably the only parts that I really like from the show. I think thats how your maximum luck and agi character spamming jet on every battle will look like. Beside that its introduce inconsistency towards the lore that many arguing at this point. Bethesda is not know to keep the consistency of their own lore anyway. They said in the past interview that they will overwrite the older settings if it is necessary for the new stuff.

[DonJuanDoja]

Another Decepticon mad that it's not evil and traumatic enough.

Ever since New Vegas all these "evil lovers" just can't shut up about "writing" as if New Vegas had GOOD writing lol, no it had more evil stuff, we know why you liked it so much, because you are evil and it made you feel at home. (Note OPs callout of Caesar's legion ending being "good")

While I thought the "forced goodness" nature of FO4 was kinda dumb, I do enjoy making it humorous and the show does a good job of showing the traumatic nature of the wasteland, it also makes fun of it.

We don't need a super dark evil Fallout game or show. Even you don't. I think you've had enough evil content already, look what it's done to you. You can't even like good things anymore. They all have to have enough evil in it. How crazy is that.

[Know Won]

Originally posted by twiggy:

Originally posted by patrick68794:

Did this ignorant post have a point?

i meant to quote the post after that one lol who said that theres plenty of cowboys in the fallout universe

There are possibly unknown vaults , who says they are not full of cowboys. Also 'cowboys' abide in nearly every state.

[Know Won]

Originally posted by Crowsy:

I've seen the series twice and overall to me it is an OK show. Few things I got puzzled at. The trans character in the BoS looked like she would snap in half if she had to pick up one of those bags the other scribes carry for their knight, and then she puts a razor blade in her boot to avoid doing the thing she was trained for? Seemed odd. And then Maximus was reprimanded because he hurt fellow BoS members while he was get beaten up by his fellow members on a daily basis.

I was sceptical about Lucy being the main vault dweller but must admit she did a decent job, I hope they continue in that way with her and not turn her into some sort of superman.

The Ghoul was good imo, I'm not into cowboys but I like the way he does things. One odd thing is that in the final scene where he confronted those BoS in Power Armour he pointed out there was a flaw in the design and then showed him what the flaw was in one shot with this knowledge why did he not kill Maximus when he fought him in filly?

The humour at times was cartoony in places and not in keeping with Fallout. The scene in Filly with Maximus flying all over the place in power armour looked cringe to me. The jets in the power armour looked out of place with Fallout, bit disappointed with that. The humour in Fallout 4 at least was dark humour we got some of it in the TV show but imo not enough.

I did think Lucy's brother had a good story going, hope it goes further. there were other things a bit cringey in the TV show but it was OK. I'm just glad Amazon didn't totally ♥♥♥♥ it up like they did with the Power of the rings.

Also did anyone notice the amount of producers and co-producers there were in the credits, it seemed to be in double figures, why did they need that many? Have they heard of the saying 'too many cooks spoil the broth?'

If someone doesn't like the show they are perfectly entitled to air their views and if you liked it you can reply and say so, no need for personal insults. People today have lost the ability to debate.

Fact they mention multiple times that Titus suit was upgraded. Maybe you need to rewatch ...

[@theweedfather]

If you consider it low CHR dialog it's literally fine

[Know Won]

Originally posted by Empukris:

Originally posted by kmoore41:

The shows premise and "hints" fail to answer some simple questions as; How did neither the vault 31 overseer or vault 33s overseer (dad) not know of the demise of vault 32, especially as it was his "dead" wife's pipboy that opened vault 32's outer door? Can any pipboy open a vault door? This could present a problem for all the vaults and in 200+ years you would think the people outside would have figured this out. Where did the 'cleanup crew' come from? If vault 31's sleepers, would not one of them released the 31s overseer from his situation before returning to sleep? There were some bright spots, Lucys jumping at the tumble weed, many of the outside views (game generated?) There are a plethora of other issues that I am hoping season 2 will answer, maybe with better informed writers, guess we will see.

I can answer some of this. It is not really explained in the show but more of a common sense in the FO universe.

Any pipboy can open those fallout door. Thats pretty much how it works in Bethesda era Fallout. Pretty sure more high tec faction like BoS or enclave have other methods to go in.

A working pipboy is ultra rare. It is freaking expensive and a pre war era treasure. This shown in the show when pretty much anyone want to steal/mug the pipboy she is wearing.

Also vault security and Gatekeepers usually guard the doors ... I imagine they showed up in vault suits perhaps to trick them?

[robinseyinht]

Main problem it got is that they rely way too much on red hering writing - what isn't a good thing, especially when it's done in such an absurd way and with the main plot point (the 'raider queen' dadnapping her father).

The Ghoul is mainly rule of cool (with partly ridiculous plot armor), while being an absolute psychopath, but they just whitewash it giving him a sad past (what is no excuse at all) and per se good motivation (to find his family), but that doesn't redeem him in any way.

It's one thing when he shoots someone who tries to kill him, but what he does to Lucy (or the scientist) is just disgusting in absolute every way and that over and over and over again, but of course Lucy just forgives him and the endless row of torturing and trying to kill her, so the audience should do, too, I guess? Nope, that's just bad writing.

This aside, as said, soo many red herings and mainly the characters either not asking question or getting no answer for no reason, what is especially bad for everything around the "raider queen".

Hell, she even KNOWS Lucy and got absolute ALL the reason to take her with her. The SOLE reason shes does not is for the plot to happen with Lucy (and by the audience) knowing sh*t.

And what's the absurdity that she simply does not care at all about the by far most important part of the whole thing, the scientist and what he had stolen from the Enklave? They literally do nothing the whole time to get the actual project.

The by far worst written character in the whole show is Moldaver and her people, forced to be that way for the story to happen - followed by The Ghoul for being as he is, instead of giving him some depth by struggling with himself having become a monster and mass murderer, but maybe show that there is still a human being inside, kept alive by his search for his family and maybe thinking of his daughter now and then when seeing Lucy and her try to also find and save her family.

It's one thing that he doesn't care about her, but he actively tortures her and plays with her life over and over again. He's a sick sadist and psychopath and should be the main villain.

[TemplarGR]

Originally posted by DonJuanDoja:

Another Decepticon mad that it's not evil and traumatic enough.

Ever since New Vegas all these "evil lovers" just can't shut up about "writing" as if New Vegas had GOOD writing lol, no it had more evil stuff, we know why you liked it so much, because you are evil and it made you feel at home. (Note OPs callout of Caesar's legion ending being "good")

While I thought the "forced goodness" nature of FO4 was kinda dumb, I do enjoy making it humorous and the show does a good job of showing the traumatic nature of the wasteland, it also makes fun of it.

We don't need a super dark evil Fallout game or show. Even you don't. I think you've had enough evil content already, look what it's done to you. You can't even like good things anymore. They all have to have enough evil in it. How crazy is that.

I agree with this, New Vegas writting has reached cult status at this point, and people believe in it without actually it being good writing.

All those who use the term "good writing", i don't think they understand what it means. They don't understand the properties of what constitutes good writing.

Take the premise of New Vegas, a prime example of bad writing only a hack would write:

In New Vegas, Mr House, supposedly the Tony Stark of the Fallout universe, is stuck for 200 years inside a life-preserving pod, while being conscious and able to interact with his machinery normally. Mr House is a genius inventor and the guy who basically designed all his technology.

But what does prevent him from dominating New Vegas? Oh, his securitrons lack firepower because they never received their firmware upgrades in time, because Mr House had locked their OS upgrade inside a platinum chip that got lost during the war. So he orders a bunch of people to find the chip, and they relentlessly search for 200 years and a crapton of caps spent, and when it is found, instead of paying a mercenary company to transport it alongside his securitrons, he instead hires a bunch of wasteland couriers to deliver it.... Because we all know that any genius inventor understands, that if you want something valuable transfered, you don't use armed guards to do it, you use a pizza delivery guy... Who could be hit by anyone in the wasteland, or a deathclaw ffs, and lose the platinum chip again and have to search for another 200 years for it... That is quality Tony Stark level of thinking right there...

And the million dollar question is this: Why Mr House never designed a new platinum chip in 200 years? I mean, he did design it in the first place 200 years ago.... He is still alive, still able to interact with his machinery and computers, even without a keayboard. For 200 years, how does he spend his time? Why not code the upgrades a-new without wasting all that effort finding that one chip?

THAT is so cringe writing it is not even believable. The contradiction is insane, and that is just the basic premise of the game, because you are a courier of the platinum chip and end up getting shot in the head and live... So basically, the only reason you are playing New Vegas, is because of BAD WRITING! Inconsistent, bad writing.... Basically Mr House is an imbecile but we are lead to believe he is a genious....

And New Vegas fangirls who talk about "good writing" all the time can't even understand even the basic premise of their cult game is cringe writing....

[robinseyinht]

Originally posted by Know Won:

Fact they mention multiple times that Titus suit was upgraded. Maybe you need to rewatch ...

Biggest problem of that scene was anyway, that they suddenly stopped shooting anyone on side and give him his villain monologue in the worst way I can remember.

They literally shoot everyone they can see in the blink of an eye, then suddenly stop and have their machine guns pointed at a GHOUL(!) but of course just listen to him how he starts rembling about murdering them.

Even worse is, that you can have fixed that easily and still give him his rule of cool Evil Sue plot armor, by just doing the lights out thing from the start, then shoot the flashlights of the power armors to show what a great Evil Sue he is that can and will do anything it wants and easily defeat anyone (as long as he gots his drugs) and that without both of them looking stupid, the BoS guys for not just killing him in an instant like all the others and the Ghoul for giving them this 100% chance.