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BowlerHatGuy Apr 27, 2024 @ 12:12am
Settlement Happiness Dropping (Sanctuary Hills)
Hey all,

I noticed that after the update that my settlement at sanctuary hills has been dropping in happiness. It's gone from around 85 to around 76 in just 2 hours of gameplay. I've never had any problems before; I have plenty of water, food, and power, along with activities and misc buildings for them too. I even have plenty of robots and turrets to protect them.

Is there something I'm missing? Is there anyone else who has been experiencing this in this new update? Thanks for reading.
Originally posted by Wozed:
Everything happiness I can think about.

The potential synth is real, eventually they start attacking and you find synth part on the body.

Obviously if you shoot a settler by mistake(explosive weapons is a big no no around settlers) and kill them it will drop a bunch, supply lines are kind of a pain for that.

Also, Robots default happiness is 50. As far as I know Codsworth doesn't count toward this but it's the only exception, all robots made at the robot station thing will drain your average or like at grey garden.

Settlers assigned to defense post lose some happiness, supply lines as well. (guess not sleeping ever does that)

You can reach 100 building stores like medics, have pets cats or dogs(they use up total space), Weightbench+Horse, Chem station and alchool still if you unlocked them(raider) and the right vault quest stuff like the slot machines that wins often or eye exams chair and drink station, barber chair. The wrong vault tech stuff can lead to people dying or being unhappy.

Make sure there is a working roof over beds, some premade structure don't seem to stop rain or has big holes in the roof, but sanctuary houses should be ok.

But happiness always been buggy unless this latest magical update fixed the broken settlements(i am not updating) some beds can't be deleted and they don't count right(maybe a roof issue or mattress). Heck some settlements don't assign beds at all unless again they fixed it 10 years late, you can manually do it and see happiness go up.

Final point, after you complete a quest the happiness go up, temporary, it will eventually go back down and that's normal.
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Jon Eros Apr 27, 2024 @ 12:26am 
i did notice a lot of hapiness drop. mainly in the player base.

one of your setlers must be a player
BowlerHatGuy Apr 27, 2024 @ 1:49am 
Originally posted by Jon Eros:
i did notice a lot of hapiness drop. mainly in the player base.

one of your setlers must be a player

haha I get it.

But seriously, settlers were content and then now they aren't? It's weird.
Jon Eros Apr 27, 2024 @ 2:18am 
this is what they say:

Happiness primarily correlates with providing for the needs of the settlers. Keeping settlers happy is as simple as keeping all the other settlement resources (food and water, beds, and defense) at sufficient levels. Each of these needs to be at least equal to the number of settlers; power itself does not affect happiness but is required to operate more efficient machinery.

Each need (food, water, beds, and defense) accounts for 20 happiness. Meeting the needs of a settlement's population will allow a maximum of 80 happiness. Increasing happiness further requires stores that increase happiness, as well as pets. The maximum possible happiness is 100.



so that means if you have 10 people, food water bed and defence should be 10 each, and then you get 80 hapiness.

so something is definitly wrong if you have plenty
Last edited by Jon Eros; Apr 27, 2024 @ 2:19am
Jon Eros Apr 27, 2024 @ 2:21am 
fan theory, one of your settlers is a synth and is sabotaging you.

(its possible your settlers are hidden synts, but its been said the sabotaging is not true, they say they dont act difrent)
BowlerHatGuy Apr 27, 2024 @ 2:43am 
Originally posted by Jon Eros:
this is what they say:

Happiness primarily correlates with providing for the needs of the settlers. Keeping settlers happy is as simple as keeping all the other settlement resources (food and water, beds, and defense) at sufficient levels. Each of these needs to be at least equal to the number of settlers; power itself does not affect happiness but is required to operate more efficient machinery.

Each need (food, water, beds, and defense) accounts for 20 happiness. Meeting the needs of a settlement's population will allow a maximum of 80 happiness. Increasing happiness further requires stores that increase happiness, as well as pets. The maximum possible happiness is 100.



so that means if you have 10 people, food water bed and defence should be 10 each, and then you get 80 hapiness.

so something is definitly wrong if you have plenty

I have 19 settlers, but everything is well above 19. I'll look into this, thank you.
BowlerHatGuy Apr 27, 2024 @ 2:43am 
Originally posted by Jon Eros:
fan theory, one of your settlers is a synth and is sabotaging you.

(its possible your settlers are hidden synts, but its been said the sabotaging is not true, they say they dont act difrent)
I like this theory
Shadow Apr 27, 2024 @ 2:56am 
You left Preston there, didn't you. Maybe after nine years, even the Sanctuary Hills settlers are getting tired of him.
BowlerHatGuy Apr 27, 2024 @ 3:52am 
Originally posted by Shadow:
You left Preston there, didn't you. Maybe after nine years, even the Sanctuary Hills settlers are getting tired of him.
Ahhh that makes much more sense now.
indy-anna Apr 27, 2024 @ 4:02am 
I have a hard time keeping Codsworth employed. I think happiness drops because he doesn't have a job anymore. When I assign him a job it goes back up. I leave and come back he's no longer employed and it goes back down.
dolmore Apr 27, 2024 @ 5:08am 
Plenty of reasons why happiness drops at settlements over time that don't really have anything to do with resources. Settlers will occasionally have rescue/help missions all on their own without an assignment from Preston. If you see a settler standing still when they're supposed to be doing something else it usually means that they have a mission for you and will approach you about it when you get near them. If you ignore them too long your happiness level will continue to drop. A dead giveaway that you have a pending mission is if you hear a settler say in passing "We're in some real trouble here."
VastEnemy Apr 27, 2024 @ 5:18am 
Originally posted by dolmore:
Plenty of reasons why happiness drops at settlements over time that don't really have anything to do with resources. Settlers will occasionally have rescue/help missions all on their own without an assignment from Preston. If you see a settler standing still when they're supposed to be doing something else it usually means that they have a mission for you and will approach you about it when you get near them. If you ignore them too long your happiness level will continue to drop. A dead giveaway that you have a pending mission is if you hear a settler say in passing "We're in some real trouble here."
Yep, this often the real reason behind it. Sometimes you just have to stand in the center of the settlement and wait for the quest giver to walk up to you. These aren't frequent either, thankfully.
wtiger27 Apr 27, 2024 @ 5:18am 
You don't want robots in your settlements if possible. Codsworth is best assigned as a Provisioner for another settlement, normally Red Rocket or Abernathy for me.

Robots have a set happiness of 50 and will contribute to dropping your settlement's happiness.
Xype Apr 27, 2024 @ 5:25am 
Originally posted by wtiger27:
You don't want robots in your settlements if possible. Codsworth is best assigned as a Provisioner for another settlement, normally Red Rocket or Abernathy for me.

Robots have a set happiness of 50 and will contribute to dropping your settlement's happiness.
Robots make the best provisioners, they don't need to sleep hehe.
wtiger27 Apr 27, 2024 @ 5:37am 
Originally posted by Xype:
Originally posted by wtiger27:
You don't want robots in your settlements if possible. Codsworth is best assigned as a Provisioner for another settlement, normally Red Rocket or Abernathy for me.

Robots have a set happiness of 50 and will contribute to dropping your settlement's happiness.
Robots make the best provisioners, they don't need to sleep hehe.

True. I always build the Robot workbench in Grey Garden and then send out Robot provisioners from there to settlements.
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