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Sparky862 Apr 26, 2024 @ 9:29am
So This Update Means Nothing To PC
Why update the game on PC? Nothing new is added for us. It's a update catered towards Consoles. Why do we care?

I mean FFS, the update won't even download. The update broke my game files, I have to redownload the game now because Consoles can now play at 4k??
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VastEnemy Apr 26, 2024 @ 9:31am 
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Boston is smooth as silk now. Haven't crashed or had any lag there. Thats a big plus for an veteran of the game who stuggled with that area. STABILITY
soulshiver Apr 26, 2024 @ 9:32am 
PC > Console
We should put all the console people on a boat and let them drift out to sea
Sparky862 Apr 26, 2024 @ 9:33am 
Originally posted by VastEnemy:
Boston is smooth as silk now. Haven't crashed or had any lag there. Thats a big plus for an veteran of the game who stuggled with that area. STABILITY

Modless?
id795078477 Apr 26, 2024 @ 9:34am 
Originally posted by VastEnemy:
Boston is smooth as silk now. Haven't crashed or had any lag there. Thats a big plus for an veteran of the game who stuggled with that area. STABILITY
So, basically everything that modders already implemented years ago with much better quality. Okay..
shotgunharry Apr 26, 2024 @ 9:35am 
i can play default with 144 fps. graphics look much better, crisp textures.
.:Jj:. Apr 26, 2024 @ 9:36am 
Originally posted by Sparky862:
Why do we care?
'We' do? What's actually your question? You're wondering why you were waiting for it, or what?

Originally posted by Sparky862:
The update broke my game files
Besides a slightly slower download speed than usual, this update was downloaded and applied without any issues for me. No idea how and what files it broke, but it sounds like an issue with your installation before the point of release of this game update.

Originally posted by Sparky862:
I have to redownload the game now because Consoles can now play at 4k??
You don't have to play or download anything, I can guarantee you that.

Again- what are you complaining about? The list of changes and additions is very small. Did somebody lie to you and say it's going to be a massive upgrade of the game?
It's primarily a console patch, and the rest is just a marketing tied to the release of tv show.
Last edited by .:Jj:.; Apr 26, 2024 @ 9:38am
VastEnemy Apr 26, 2024 @ 9:37am 
Originally posted by Sparky862:
Originally posted by VastEnemy:
Boston is smooth as silk now. Haven't crashed or had any lag there. Thats a big plus for an veteran of the game who stuggled with that area. STABILITY

Modless?
With and without. Mods that don't require the Script Extender work fine.
Sparky862 Apr 26, 2024 @ 9:38am 
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This is all a little too much for a mediocre TV Series that just launched....This game has been dormant for YEARS, Devs did not care.

Weird all a sudden they care now. And best of all, nothing benefits PC here, other than apparently FPS issues here and there.

Don't know why this update got me so pissed. Cause I have to redownload 99gb worth of game because of a 15gb update for Consoles to play at 4k
VastEnemy Apr 26, 2024 @ 9:39am 
Originally posted by id795078477:
Originally posted by VastEnemy:
Boston is smooth as silk now. Haven't crashed or had any lag there. Thats a big plus for an veteran of the game who stuggled with that area. STABILITY
So, basically everything that modders already implemented years ago with much better quality. Okay..

No, no mod ever doubled my framerates in Boston, or stopped the random crashing when fast traveling there or entering locations like this update has.
Noctarius Apr 26, 2024 @ 9:42am 
A lot of people seemingly do not comprehend the nature of OPs complaint.

Nobody cares what the update added or didn't add. All of that was already availlable via mods anyways.

The update broke mod compatibility, making FO4 unplayable as the vast majority of mods that make FO4 actually good, require F4SE (which is now broken).


So the complaint is, Bethesda forced a nearly vanilla version of the game onto people who absolutely DO NOT enjoy vanilla FO4.
EricHVela Apr 26, 2024 @ 9:44am 
Originally posted by Sparky862:
Why update the game on PC? Nothing new is added for us. It's a update catered towards Consoles. Why do we care?

I mean FFS, the update won't even download. The update broke my game files, I have to redownload the game now because Consoles can now play at 4k??
I have to agree that the PC update was pointless. I've gained no performance increase (but even Boston wasn't an issue for me). I got CC that they could've just flagged as free like they've done for years without updates. People with UWS and a proper mod wouldn't have to settle for UWS requiring workarounds and a poor un-redesigned UI. We still have to use workarounds to get the game to run on modern PCs.

The update was obviously meant for consoles. They shoulda just skipped the PC update and set the CC content as free as they've done over the years without an update.

Announcing free CC content probably would've been enough with the TV promotion to bring back players, encourage new players, and keep existing players on PC without breaking stuff or replacing something with a worse version. Announce a console next-gen update on PC just makes people expect full modern PC support.

Yet, that's what Bethsoft does: They make claims that come with reasonable expectations, but they don't deliver on anything they didn't actually say no matter how reasonable the expectation.
JocularJosh Apr 26, 2024 @ 9:45am 
Originally posted by Noctarius:
A lot of people seemingly do not comprehend the nature of OPs complaint.

Nobody cares what the update added or didn't add. All of that was already availlable via mods anyways.

The update broke mod compatibility, making FO4 unplayable as the vast majority of mods that make FO4 actually good, require F4SE (which is now broken).


So the complaint is, Bethesda forced a nearly vanilla version of the game onto people who absolutely DO NOT enjoy vanilla FO4.
Breaking some mods does not make the game itself unplayable.
Mods are third-party and you use them at your own risk. You are responsible for them, not Bethesda. And you have/had PLENTY of ways to prevent this update.

A lot of people here blame Bethesda for their own laziness. It takes 5 damn seconds to prevent the update from happening. I rarely use mods for their games but even I was able to do it just like that.

If you absolutely do NOT enjoy the vanilla experience you should know how to handle your mods. If you whine about an update breaking your game, that is on you.
VastEnemy Apr 26, 2024 @ 9:47am 
A vanilla update at 14gigs huh?

The game is showing massive performance and stability improvements across the board for many people, except the update didn't do anything major to the game? Or rather, anything you can see visibly? No new ray tracing, textures, fancy bells and whistles or whatever else. It did nothing to an unstable volatile poorly optimized decade old mess of a game that could crash if you looked at the wrong thing? Except now it doesn't crash or lag like that anymore, without any mods, and the update did nothing.

Okay, good to know.
Last edited by VastEnemy; Apr 26, 2024 @ 9:48am
morikaane Apr 26, 2024 @ 9:51am 
I thought the patch notes were pretty clear what the update was all about. It was mainly targeted at addressing the issues with the latest playstation and xbox consoles. They threw in some free stuff, a few tweaks (with various degrees of success) and broke F4SE. F4SE should be ready sooner or later.
Noctarius Apr 26, 2024 @ 9:52am 
Originally posted by VastEnemy:
A vanilla update at 14gigs huh?

The game is showing massive performance and stability improvements across the board for many people, except the update didn't do anything major to the game? Or rather, anything you can see visibly? No new ray tracing, textures, fancy bells and whistles or whatever else. It did nothing to an unstable volitile poorly optimized decade old mess of a game that could crash if you looked at the wrong thing? Except now it doesnt crash or lag like that anymore anymore, without any mod, and the update did nothing.

Okay, good to know.


You clearly have no idea how much mods (mostly F4SE dependent) improved the game. How many functions it added to a game that was always bland and boring and unsatisfying on its own.
All of these improvements are gone for now, so yes, the game is back to almost vanilla compared to what it was now.

All of these stability things are to be expected shortly post-launch, and not something a developer should be praised for if they do it 9 years later by breaking the entire modding compatibility.
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Date Posted: Apr 26, 2024 @ 9:29am
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