Is Fallout 4 a bad game? (Circa 2024, post-sale)

[sfried]

I recently acquired the GOTY Edition of this game for under $10. I've only just started when many people who witness me playing keep mentioning me to "play New Vegas" instead. I also see a lot of impressions that Fallout 4 is "pretty bad" and "unsalvagable".

I spent about a few hours on it and maybe done one or two side-quests. As a matter of fact, I barely do any of the main story stuff and just keep doing side-quests since I'm more the kind of person who wants to explore off the beaten path than follow any "mainline story". I don't think I've encountered much problems outside of the frequent crashing (I hear you're suppose to download mods to help with these issues), but I sometimes wonder if these crashes are what make it be considered a bad game and if they could be solved.

In the end, I think I spent enough time with the game that it could no longer be refunded. At which case I need to ask: Is Fallout 4 (GOTY edition) really as bad as people claim? Is it as unsalvagable as people make it out to be? People seem to be upset about the new updates... Overall, I'm just wondering where all this negativity is coming from to the point I'm getting told to play something else...

[potato]

fallout 4 is a good game, it's just a horrible fallout game

[One Eye Jack]

Fallout 4 is a blast. Countless secrets to discover. I have several hundred hours in the game and it feels like I've just scratched the surface. It's better than the other Fallout games at least I like it the best of them all.

[sfried]

Originally posted by potato:

fallout 4 is a good game, it's just a horrible fallout game

Care to explain?

[Yard]

not at all, this game is a gem, those who think stupid things are because they haven't gotten the most out of it properly

I usually play a lot of rpg, mmrpg and all kinds of games with good lore and history, and I can assure you that fallout 4 is great in many aspects

Of course there are problems or bugs from time to time, but nothing that someone with 2 neurons cannot solve or by reloading the game, sometimes I think that people who complain about problems are because their intellectual capacity is limited

I have Fallout 4 with more than 50 mods and I still managed to finish it several times, a problem arose, I solved it, but nothing that prevented me from moving forward

And in case you find yourself in a difficult situation to advance due to a bug, there are console commands or restart the quest as simple as that

[Star Rain]

its the Arkham Knight of Fallout, cherish it!

[Wokelander]

Depends on what you like. I find it superficial and nowhere near the narrative quality of the "true Fallouts" from before Bethesda bought an IP they didn't get, but the gunplay, building and gear-tinkering can be fun for a while. I have 5 times the hours in Fallout New Vegas for a reason I guess 😅

[Six of Saturn]

NV has a terrible map and environment(like a miniature golf course) with a good story and great character choice. It is also very very dated at this point. FO4 has an unbelievably great map and environment with a mid story and mid character choice.

[Lord Nighthawk]

Originally posted by sfried:

Originally posted by potato:

fallout 4 is a good game, it's just a horrible fallout game

Care to explain?

Basically previous fallout titles heavy set on the players decisions, developing your own character, having multiple responses during conversations leading to multiple results in the story/quest progress and at least deep multi-layered quests where during the quests you could get additional informations that let you redicide if you want to solve the quest different. Heavily rpg related.

Fallout 4 took a....different approach. It still looks like a fallout but heavily relies on combat and world exploration. The downside is that dialogues are shallow, quests are mostly short fetch quests and the main story lets you just move through like on rails. That means the rpg part....well, it´s light at it´s best.

Fallout 4 is a good open world shooter with exploration in a fallout costume, but bad being a fallout compared to it´s predecessors.

[potato]

Originally posted by sfried:

Care to explain?

it's a good open world action adventure, but a crappy rpg

[Yard]

Originally posted by potato:

Originally posted by sfried:

Care to explain?

it's a good open world action adventure, but a crappy rpg

I disagree with you, the game has a lot of role and much of it depends on your own imagination.

In my role, the character ended up as the leader of Nuka-world, undergoing a complete transformation from someone good to becoming a looter and that is the freedom that the game itself gives you.

If you are not able to create the lore by your own means, that is another thing, but to call it a bad role-playing game, you are very wrong.

[Jack Jester]

Its a good game, It only has the problem that from level 30+ the game becomes much too easy at the highest level of difficulty.

[Lord Nighthawk]

Originally posted by Yard:

I disagree with you, the game has a lot of role and much of it depends on your own imagination.

In my role, the character ended up as the leader of Nuka-world, undergoing a complete transformation from someone good to becoming a looter and that is the freedom that the game itself gives you.

If you are not able to create the lore by your own means, that is another thing, but to call it a bad role-playing game, you are very wrong.

You will always be Nate or Nora.....even if you hit a brickwall with your head multiple times. Everyone was the leader of nuka world at some point, everyone killed all the raiders there at some point. That´s not a role, that´s the outcome of a questline.

The lore in an rpg is pre-given, if i have to self-create it it´s simply a bad rpg.

[TemplarGR]

Originally posted by potato:

Originally posted by sfried:

Care to explain?

it's a good open world action adventure, but a crappy rpg

It is one of the best RPGs ever made, actually. Far better as an RPG than New Vegas, for example.

People really misunderstand what an RPG is. Really misunderstand the term.

Bethesda games like Skyrim and Fallout 4 are pinnacle CRPG. Pinnacle. It doesn't get better than this. Many people confuse tactics games or point and click adventures/ game movies as RPGS, they are not. Bethesda games are RPGs because they are literally game worlds inside you can be whoever you want to be. You can play the role you like.

[Wokelander]

Originally posted by Yard:

Originally posted by potato:

it's a good open world action adventure, but a crappy rpg

I disagree with you, the game has a lot of role and much of it depends on your own imagination.

In my role, the character ended up as the leader of Nuka-world, undergoing a complete transformation from someone good to becoming a looter and that is the freedom that the game itself gives you.

If you are not able to create the lore by your own means, that is another thing, but to call it a bad role-playing game, you are very wrong.

Just because you make up stuff in your head about the MC doesn't make it a roleplaying game 😅

[Lord Nighthawk]

Originally posted by TemplarGR:

People really misunderstand what an RPG is. Really misunderstand the term.

And you seem to be one of them. Congratulations.